2 hours ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Just had a look at the ladder/upcoming games. Of the pack of 5 teams on 20 points above us, 4 play each other (rich v ess & dogs v st. k) and 1 (port) play a team above (geel). 

We are a game clear of remaining teams below. 

So IF (note, I F) we can win in the desert, we could go into the bye in 9th spot with % at 20 points / 5-5. 

Im clutching at straws, right?!

Yep it's must win game this week or potentially season over, swans are right behind us and should win this week 

Said it when everyone wanted him dropped... We need Melksham in this team badly.I don't care what his faults are, he can kick a footy and hit targets. Which Oscar, Tom, Frost and Wagner can't.

Watts, Salem, Melksham, Hibberd and Lewis are the only guys I am confident will hit a target majority of the times they kick the ball.

Things that need to be considered:

The Weideman experiment

The attitude of Kent

The wastefulness of Bugg

Watts looking tired and lacking intensity

 

2 hours ago, The Sailing Demon said:

I think we need to drop Weideman.
"We need him in because he is a tall"

Did he take a contested mark all day? no point having a tall if he cant mark, might as well bring in someone who will halve the contest and be quick whilst going to ground.
Harmes should be in for Weid. (Yes Harmes is a backman but hes a tough body who is better than Weid.)
Kent out for Stretch (NFI why Stretch hasn't been playing)

and he couldn't make the distance from a 35m set shot at the city end

everyone seems to keep saying he is going to be good with longer development but i haven't seen much evidence of that. i checked hid tac stats for the 2 years he played tac and his figures were pretty minimal. makes one wonder why he was so well regarded at the draft. i'm getting a little bit nervous he might be a bust. i hope i'm wrong because one of our big problems is a real lack of tall kp players 

OUT: Bugg, Omac, Kent

IN: Stretch, Melksham, Harmes

Edited May 22, 20178 yr by praha

2 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

and he couldn't make the distance from a 35m set shot at the city end

everyone seems to keep saying he is going to be good with longer development but i haven't seen much evidence of that. i checked hid tac stats for the 2 years he played tac and his figures were pretty minimal. makes one wonder why he was so well regarded at the draft. i'm getting a little bit nervous he might be a bust. i hope i'm wrong because one of our big problems is a real lack of tall kp players 

I am also concerned.

Has some smarts but lacks athleticism.

3 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

and he couldn't make the distance from a 35m set shot at the city end

everyone seems to keep saying he is going to be good with longer development but i haven't seen much evidence of that. i checked hid tac stats for the 2 years he played tac and his figures were pretty minimal. makes one wonder why he was so well regarded at the draft. i'm getting a little bit nervous he might be a bust. i hope i'm wrong because one of our big problems is a real lack of tall kp players 

Brown showed yesterday the importance of a key forward who plays in front, leads and can kick long goals. None of ours can do that. I suspect Weed got some extra mileage in the TAC due to his pedigree.

Edited May 22, 20178 yr by america de cali

Think we have to play Weed next week as his replacement is either injured, too short or average at VFL level. 

Once Hogan and Gawn/Spence come back he may return to VFL for a while. He'll get further opportunities to play alongside Hogan this year, just not every week.

Good god I hope they keep Pedo in.

19 minutes ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Things that need to be considered:

The Weideman experiment

The attitude of Kent

The wastefulness of Bugg

Watts looking tired and lacking intensity

 

I'm a Weideman backer, but he's not going the things we want him to do.  How many times did he not make the contest and allow them to mark it easily?  It's not his fault, he's just not ready.  We might be better off without him.

Kent is in a little trouble, too.  Harmes may come in for him.

Buggy was alright and should hold his spot IMO.

WB

As he (weed) is the one required to do 'whatever' and doesn't/can't it essentially is his fault.

I agree he isn't ready

16 hours ago, chookrat said:

Salem will be fine - insufficient force. Vinci will be fine, unless they do him for being punched in the mouth and in the stomach.

What??? He elbowed the north player in the face. At least 1 week. Possible 2

Edited May 22, 20178 yr by bandicoot

out: Kent, Wagner

In Melksham, Kennedy.

Bugg lucky but at least he got himself into scoring positions. 

Kennedy deserves a go after consistent VFL form and has shown he can apply good tackling pressure unlike kent.

Melksham for Wagner , can play same role down back but can also have runs in midfield or forward

 

6 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

What??? He elbowed the north player in the face. At least 1 week. Possible 2

I would call it a forearm with low impact.

Cotchin deadset punched a guy in the face and was let off , we are due for some MRP love

I wouldn't be against giving Mitch King a run.. He's had a few games back now & was in the best for Casey on the weekend, my one concern is his ability to run out a game but playing him will allow Tmac to return to defence & allow us to play Pedersen more forward which we need a marking option up forward

7 minutes ago, JV7 said:

I wouldn't be against giving Mitch King a run.. He's had a few games back now & was in the best for Casey on the weekend, my one concern is his ability to run out a game but playing him will allow Tmac to return to defence & allow us to play Pedersen more forward which we need a marking option up forward

There would be little expectation on him other than having a red hot go. Just do it.

A few of our 'bigs' are looking a little sore at the moment. They say playing in NT is quite slippery so we can drop one key tall. Oscar and Weid have been poor all year.

Weid in particular was average last week and poor this week. Don't buy that he played well last week. Shouldn't have been selected by the match committee. Also looks like he is carrying some leg soreness.

Bugg showed some fight so we should give him another week despite some negatives.

Kent has been good in the past but this year he is clearly no superman. He pulled out of 1 contest which will be highlighted by the coaching staff. Would like to see if he can fire up and redeem himself this week knowing everyone will be watching him closely.

We probably need change given some are looking tired and playing in the NT can be draining. So Melkshem and Harmes (held over as emerg) I would think are guaranteed a game given their solid VFL performances. Would like to see Stretch get a run. Out is Weid, Wagner, and a surprise omissions to shake the team up.

31 minutes ago, bandicoot said:

What??? He elbowed the north player in the face. At least 1 week. Possible 2

Who's side are you on, traitor.

1 hour ago, america de cali said:

Brown showed yesterday the importance of a key forward who plays in front, leads and can kick long goals. None of ours can do that. I suspect Weed got some extra mileage in the TAC due to his pedigree.

Brown is also 25   and has played 60 odd games    Vs   Weid who is 19 and played what 10 games?    I don't know what you expect?    And just as an aside where do we find another tall KPplayer from our cupboard is a bit bare at the moment.

Unless we go for something from left field - e.g. Petracca to FF then Weid stays. There's no-one else. Hulett has been playing mainly at half back this season -not all that effectively and you would think Bull needs at least one game at Casey to test out his ribs & get a bit of confidence. As someone else suggested it would be good to see him stay deep & lead hard to the 30-40 metre mark. He doesn't yet have the tank to play a roaming CHF role

ANB in for Bugg who is just not quite up to it. I'd have dropped him after last week despite his two goals

Melksham in for Kent. Not a Melksham fan but I'd like to see what he can bring to a HF/wing role before declaring him a bust. Could find the goals at his old club. Kent showed exactly why he's been dropped in the first place and that unfortunately, he didn't learn from the experience.

I'd like to see Stretch back in as well as I think he makes us better & look forward to reading Plapp's assessment of his game on the weekend. Unfortunately given our luck with the MRP, I think Salem may well cop a week

15 hours ago, picket fence said:

God we have players with litle pace and u want to play Trengove?? 

Sadly who else is there?

45 minutes ago, Bossdog said:

Brown is also 25   and has played 60 odd games    Vs   Weid who is 19 and played what 10 games?    I don't know what you expect?    And just as an aside where do we find another tall KPplayer from our cupboard is a bit bare at the moment.

We haven't had one who can do those three basic key forward fundamentals since Neitz. How long has he been retired?

1 hour ago, Demons1858 said:

A few of our 'bigs' are looking a little sore at the moment. They say playing in NT is quite slippery so we can drop one key tall. Oscar and Weid have been poor all year.

Weid in particular was average last week and poor this week. Don't buy that he played well last week. Shouldn't have been selected by the match committee. Also looks like he is carrying some leg soreness.

Bugg showed some fight so we should give him another week despite some negatives.

Kent has been good in the past but this year he is clearly no superman. He pulled out of 1 contest which will be highlighted by the coaching staff. Would like to see if he can fire up and redeem himself this week knowing everyone will be watching him closely.

We probably need change given some are looking tired and playing in the NT can be draining. So Melkshem and Harmes (held over as emerg) I would think are guaranteed a game given their solid VFL performances. Would like to see Stretch get a run. Out is Weid, Wagner, and a surprise omissions to shake the team up.

Not singling you out Demon1858 but we go through this every year on here about this. There is a difference between Alice Springs & Darwin... It will be fine & 28 in Alice on Saturday. It's Darwin that's humid & slippery, just thought I'd throw it out their before everyone goes on about it

Edited May 22, 20178 yr by JV7

Salem will be suspended. I was under the impression the players made a pledge not do any more cheap shots for the rest of the season.

 

20 minutes ago, JV7 said:

 It will be fine & 28 in Alice on Saturday.

Gee that's not going to suit a team on a 6 day break playing a team on a 13 day break.

Luckily the game will start at 4:35 rather than 1:40.

3 hours ago, Stretch Johnson said:

Things that need to be considered:

The Weideman experiment

The attitude of Kent

The wastefulness of Bugg

Watts looking tired and lacking intensity

 

Spot on.

I also think that the team is better off with Stretch in it.