On 14/05/2017 at 09:54, The heart beats true said:

I appreciate what your saying in terms of not over reacting to the news of another head knock, but it's not really a knee jerk reaction to suggest a young guy suffering a potential 4th concussion in less than 12 months might want to think about his long term future.

It is a pretty extraordinary situation.

Of course he'll be thinking about his future - do you really think he isn't? I can't see how he could be doing anything other than sweating over this. The bloke must be crapping himself. I really feel for him.

That's all the more reason why supporters and the footy media should just let him go about dealing with it privately, with the best advice, surrounded by people who love him, so that he can do whatever needs to be done. I don't think he needs every man and his dog having a say on a personal health issue that is actually nobody's business but his own.

By the way I don't think it's knee jerk to say "he needs to think about his future", but it's very much knee jerk to say "he should retire", which people have said in this thread.

  On 14/05/2017 at 10:00, Petraccattack said:

Wow just saw the video on afl.com

He got sniped again by some coward. Unbelievable.

Is he being targeted? Too many coincidences going on in the past few weeks, I think. The VFL/AFL need to get to the bottom of this one. 

Faarrck. I'm a big fan of Angus. Lived the way he went about his footy in 2015 and really hope he can have a long AFL career

 

More than just a coincidence that except for the first one, these are all happening in the VFL? More sniping going on at a lower level?

From watching that video he was definitely bumped and it was high. Carlton players should know better than anyone that any injury will increase the penalty, so this was plain nasty.

I hope Gus is ok, but at the same time I'd be ok with a medical report suggesting he take the rest of the year off. What would an appropriate penalty be?

I've been on this for a while now, we're getting hammered illegally at VFL level and it needs to stop.

What's the latest on Maynard?

i didn't think there was anything in the bump - two players attacking the ball.

  On 14/05/2017 at 10:00, Petraccattack said:

Wow just saw the video on afl.com

He got sniped again by some coward. Unbelievable.

Link?

  On 14/05/2017 at 10:31, Earl Hood said:

Is he being targeted? Too many coincidences going on in the past few weeks, I think. The VFL/AFL need to get to the bottom of this one. 

VFL tribunal and match review (do they bother having them?) are a bloody joke.  

What, the guy who sniped him a couple of weeks ago got one week???

Get the Carlscum doctor who assessed Rowe to have a look at Gus: he would say, were the boot in the other foot, "serious permanent brain damage" and get the "assailant" rubbed out for life. 

As much as I hate to say it....I think Gus has got to leave the game. Or at the least just finish for the year. A terrible shame for him and the club. My god we've had terrible luck with high draft picks. 

Sooks, snipers and sledgers. ........and a good year to you Carlton for the rest of the Century.

  On 14/05/2017 at 10:21, ProDee said:

Unless you're a doctor (and I assume a specialist in the field of brain anatomy), and unless you're privy to his medical records, I don't believe you're in a position to proffer ANY advice re his career.

If being a recognised expert in the area and having personal access to information is now the baseline standard for a comment on DLand things are going to be VERY quiet around here ?

I appreciate what you and @Nasher have said. I guess I was trying to defend the sentiment of the people who I think are probably just acting out of concern for a young guy.

Ill stay out of it, but I think we can all agree that we hope Gus is healthy!

  On 15/05/2017 at 00:18, The heart beats true said:

If being a recognised expert in the area and having personal access to information is now the baseline standard for a comment on DLand things are going to be VERY quiet around here ?

I appreciate what you and @Nasher have said. I guess I was trying to defend the sentiment of the people who I think are probably just acting out of concern for a young guy.

Ill stay out of it, but I think we can all agree that we hope Gus is healthy!

I think when it comes to offering life advice (even if it will never be received) regarding a player's personal medical condition, then yes, I think the baseline should be a recognised expert. There is a clear line between this and discussing who should be in the team and all the other kind of stuff we spitball on here in my view.

Appreciate that people's concerns over his long term health are well meaning - nobody wants to see another Daniel Bell lining up on the field not knowing what he's doing there, but I still think when it comes down to it, we're too removed from the situation and it's none of our business anyway.

  On 14/05/2017 at 10:21, ProDee said:

Unless you're a doctor (and I assume a specialist in the field of brain anatomy), and unless you're privy to his medical records, I don't believe you're in a position to proffer ANY advice re his career.

Many knocks to the head = concern. It's pretty simple.

That's not a knee jerk reaction.

  On 15/05/2017 at 01:10, Luther said:

Many knocks to the head = concern. It's pretty simple.

That's not a knee jerk reaction.

Again, concern is understandable, calling for him to retire is knee jerk.

  On 15/05/2017 at 01:14, Nasher said:

Again, concern is understandable, calling for him to retire is knee jerk.

One post calling for him to retire, relax.

Was at the game, didn't see the hit just saw him walking off whilst talking to the trainers. He was shaken up but not exactly out cold so although concerning I think he should be fine.

  On 14/05/2017 at 08:19, ProDee said:

So many knee jerk reactions on here from amateur exports. 

Cassie Sainsbury is an amateur exporter

  On 15/05/2017 at 00:18, The heart beats true said:

If being a recognised expert in the area and having personal access to information is now the baseline standard for a comment on DLand things are going to be VERY quiet around here ?

I appreciate what you and @Nasher have said. I guess I was trying to defend the sentiment of the people who I think are probably just acting out of concern for a young guy.

Ill stay out of it, but I think we can all agree that we hope Gus is healthy!

Well said Heart.  Its my opinion ( I am a brain anatomist and neurosurgeon) he wont play footy again.  Ever.  

  On 15/05/2017 at 01:10, Luther said:

Many knocks to the head = concern. It's pretty simple.

That's not a knee jerk reaction.

When did I say it wasn't a concern ?

  On 15/05/2017 at 01:44, pinkshark said:

Well said Heart.  Its my opinion ( I am a brain anatomist and neurosurgeon) he wont play footy again.  Ever.  

Do you form all your opinions without knowing all the details? 

  On 15/05/2017 at 03:04, Wrecker45 said:

Do you form all your opinions without knowing all the details? 

always

  On 15/05/2017 at 03:11, pinkshark said:

always

So are you actually a neurosurgeon? Because in another thread you didn't know that helmets don't necessarily prevent concussions.

  On 14/05/2017 at 10:00, Petraccattack said:

Wow just saw the video on afl.com

He got sniped again by some coward. Unbelievable.

What??? This was an accidentel head clash by 2 players going for the ball. 

Its a miracle that brayshaw only suffered mild concussion. Most Players would have been knocked out cold. 

Not too sure how you can say he is more susceptible to concussion when every incident would have caused concussion to others.

just bad luck imo 

  On 15/05/2017 at 03:16, Luther said:

So are you actually a neurosurgeon? Because in another thread you didn't know that helmets don't necessarily prevent concussions.

No. Just jiving.

  On 15/05/2017 at 03:17, bandicoot said:

What??? This was an accidentel head clash by 2 players going for the ball. 

Its a miracle that brayshaw only suffered mild concussion. Most Players would have been knocked out cold. 

Not too sure how you can say he is more susceptible to concussion when every incident would have caused concussion to others.

just bad luck imo 

well the carlscum player seemed unaffected, if it was a head clash. didn't even grab his head. just saying

Look how about we just wait for a statement from the club first before we all bite each others heads off.

I wish Gus all the best in his recovery.