10 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

 We all make mistakes. 

Decision-making under conditions of uncertainty yields uncertain outcomes.

1 hour ago, stevethemanjordan said:

JKH is named in a forward pocket.

You know how team selection works right? Starting 18 are the starting 18. The interchange are the ones that are up in the air.

 

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

JKH won't be one of the outs.  It surprises me that some of the forum regulars still aren't aware that the outs always come from the extended bench.  

 

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

You virtually never see a player named in the 18 omitted.

Not trying to be a smart a....

...but is there a rule that they can't omit someone from the 18?

If not it wouldn't surprise me to see a change or changes this week.

 

2 minutes ago, rjay said:

 

 

Not trying to be a smart a....

...but is there a rule that they can't omit someone from the 18?

If not it wouldn't surprise me to see a change or changes this week.

 

JKH could be a late withdrawl through injury and replaced by an emergency. Otherwise, we would be fined for the above scenario.

13 minutes ago, Deestroy All said:

It's not short sighted. I watched his whole career at Essendon and said exactly what he'd be like for us. He's still the same player. Sure, 6 games for us, 6 the same as every other he's played. He won't get better. 

Fair enough mate.  I won't argue with that, I'm just holding out some hope that he can be a serviceable foot soldier in our back six over the coming years. 

6 hours ago, JV7 said:

To quote Brendan McCartney at this mornings training "best they've looked all year, loved the intensity" lets hope they haven't spent it all at training 

Great quote JV7 .... thanks for sharing.

A 'four quarter' win over the Hawks and no injuries, will have them brimming with confidence and ready to attack the rest of the season.

Might have been a contractual agreement to play Melksham as a start up guarantee for the first six weeks. 

Edited May 4, 20178 yr by america de cali

1 hour ago, P-man said:

The evidence supporting it was what we gave up to get him (which I maintain was massive overs), the pre-existing relationship (which on the surface is close for a coach and player). and the string of very ordinary games with Melksham remaining on the teamsheet the following week.

That said, It was mainly tongue in cheek discussion from what I saw. I didn't genuinely think Goodwin was playing him due to favouritism. I was however starting to suspect he rated him a lot higher than what I believe his actual worth is. His omission is several weeks late imo but better late than never.

Drafting a bloke doesn't mean he is a favourite. Thinking he can add value to the team, you know their training habits and they are gettable, over playing them when better options are available then yes.

Early doors this season the cupboard has been a little bare so Milky has stayed. Now it is a little more stocked, back to the shelf he goes (sorry the old darl is watching master chef).

9 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

JKH could be a late withdrawl through injury and replaced by an emergency. Otherwise, we would be fined for the above scenario.

show me the afl rule that a non-extended bench player can't be omitted for someone else on the extended bench

11 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Fair enough mate.  I won't argue with that, I'm just holding out some hope that he can be a serviceable foot soldier in our back six over the coming years. 

I definitely think he could be that and maybe a littler bit more. If he can play his role as a half back I think he adds depth to the Wagner/Hunt/Lewis/Hibberd/Jetta halfbacks who attack from that position. He is a decent kick and has some agility with the ball when he's playing with confidence. I think the reason he's played six games is probably because he has played his role well enough for the coaching staff to keep him in. I think many are quick to judge a player who doesn't win a lot of ball. 

Edited May 4, 20178 yr by mongrel

8 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Fair enough mate.  I won't argue with that, I'm just holding out some hope that he can be a serviceable foot soldier in our back six over the coming years. 

As are we all I'd imagine. I cant see anyone wants anything but a player to play well. We all want success.

3 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Might have been a contractual agreement to play Melksham as a start up guarantee for the first six weeks. 

seriously doubt we have those type of contract clauses any more. moreso after a player suffers a self imposed long suspension

51 minutes ago, Wolfmother said:

I would like to see JT given a run in front of stretch. 

 

I think if he recieved four games to adjust to the speed of AFL he would produce some quality football 

Why? Stretch already offers more than Trenners. 

Trenners is a lovely bloke, but the game has passed him by.

Stretch will be in our top 10 players in 2-3 years time. He's a really good decision-maker, a good runner and adheres nicely to structures. Really important player for our game style too.

Re Milkshake:  he was recruited at a time when our defensive stocks were not so strong with running, rebounding types.  In the time he was out, there have been significant advancement in competition.  Hunt, Wagner, Hibbard, etc.

I have no problem with him getting a few weeks to prove himself and find his feet, but there are some areas where he now needs to go back to the VFL and prove he is up to scratch to earn his spot.  With Wags getting over his injury and having a good VFL game, he might be the switch.

its a great problem to have- depth.  

 

1 minute ago, A F said:

Why? Stretch already offers more than Trenners. 

Trenners is a lovely bloke, but the game has passed him by.

Stretch will be in our top 10 players in 2-3 years time. He's a really good decision-maker, a good runner and adheres nicely to structures. Really important player for our game style too.

Agree. I feel for Trengove. But seeing his name mentioned every week is tiresome. It's clear as day why he doesn't play. 

 

Really like Stretch too, I'd like him to take more risks with his kicks, plays a bit too safe. 

I think Oscar has to stay in as it allows one of the backs to also play a bit in the ruck

26 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Fair enough mate.  I won't argue with that, I'm just holding out some hope that he can be a serviceable foot soldier in our back six over the coming years. 

I want that for all players too. But some I just can't see it happening. 

1 hour ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

We need JKH to stay in the team, who else will do all the corralling? 

Its a big job

35 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Might have been a contractual agreement to play Melksham as a start up guarantee for the first six weeks. 

We see Rioli  regularly not playing in Tasmania. We hear of  tall forwards not being asked to ruck. Hmmm.

This would not surprise me.

Edited May 4, 20178 yr by Franky_31

2 hours ago, Nasher said:

JKH won't be one of the outs.  It surprises me that some of the forum regulars still aren't aware that the outs always come from the extended bench.  

really?

2 hours ago, DeeZee said:

Strange that Dom is on the extended bench, when the coaches even gave him votes last week.

Tyson is in the midfield rotation. By definition they can't all be on the ground at once.  The named starters are Vince, Viney and Oliver - I'm fine with him not being named ahead of them.  What position do you expect to see him named in - fullback?

7 hours ago, JV7 said:

To quote Brendan McCartney at this mornings training "best they've looked all year, loved the intensity" lets hope they haven't spent it all at training 

This Is a very good sign imo, I remember the coaches saying how flat they looked on the track before Carlton game last year, I think the players are really setting themselves for a big game 

2 hours ago, A F said:

I find it interesting and have done so for a few weeks.

It's clear to me that the FD think Dom needs to tidy up his disposal by foot. It also vindicates the thinking that although you get some coaches votes, it doesn't mean there aren't still flaws in your game.

Rubbish, see above.

Edited May 4, 20178 yr by Fifty-5

1 minute ago, brendan said:

This Is a very good sign imo, I remember the coaches saying how flat they looked on the track before Carlton game last year, I think the players are really setting themselves for a big game 

Props to J Lewis last week who clearly made ammends for his 3 week Holly. Hope he fires even bigger against his old club. Hope Frawley has a shocker on Hogan.

Edited May 4, 20178 yr by leave it to deever

9 minutes ago, Fifty-5 said:

Rubbish, see above.

Edited May 4, 20178 yr by A F

I reckon we're more likely to struggle a bit this week and put out a really good performance against Adelaide. Can't wait for the Crows game.

Or, heaven forbid, we back up a really good showing this weekend with another against Adelaide.

Edited May 4, 20178 yr by A F