1 hour ago, don't make me angry said:

Are watching the same game watched the replay he only made 1 mistake, played well your bias is unbelievable

Lewis handballs to him, he drops it and GWS gain possession. A chain of nice intricate handballing comes undone when Jones handballs straight to Ward, who laces out and it ends up being a GWS goal. There's at least two off the top of my head...

I'd argue it's your bias that's at play here. As with so many Demonlanders, you fail to see the mistakes and only hold onto the fact that Jones stuck by us through the crap. That's not a good reason.

1 hour ago, A F said:

Lewis handballs to him, he drops it and GWS gain possession. A chain of nice intricate handballing comes undone when Jones handballs straight to Ward, who laces out and it ends up being a GWS goal. There's at least two off the top of my head...

I'd argue it's your bias that's at play here. As with so many Demonlanders, you fail to see the mistakes and only hold onto the fact that Jones stuck by us through the crap. That's not a good reason.

Every one makes mistakes when someone is bias they only see the mistakes and ignore the good things, he done more good then bad, it's not the mistakes it how a player still goes hard at the ball, and don't kid yourself if Jones was not in the best 22 then Goodwin will not play them, 27 touch's and 1 goal is overall a good game, if everyone got dropped for making a few mistakes no one would play more the 2 games a year, no one is perfect.

1 hour ago, A F said:

Lewis handballs to him, he drops it and GWS gain possession. A chain of nice intricate handballing comes undone when Jones handballs straight to Ward, who laces out and it ends up being a GWS goal. There's at least two off the top of my head...

I'd argue it's your bias that's at play here. As with so many Demonlanders, you fail to see the mistakes and only hold onto the fact that Jones stuck by us through the crap. That's not a good reason.

Jones hasn’t been great this year as a whole but his last two weeks have been very good. He’s lifted his intensity in the clinches and was instrumental to our last two wins particularly WC. 

Just my opinion from what I’ve seen though. 

On Lewis it is quite funny to think just a few weeks ago there were calls on here to get him to his 300 and then drop him never to return. Like Jones his year as a whole has been average with a few good performances but again like Jones the last two weeks he’s been solid as a rock and exactly the experience we need going into the finals. 

3 minutes ago, Pates said:

Jones hasn’t been great this year as a whole but his last two weeks have been very good. He’s lifted his intensity in the clinches and was instrumental to our last two wins particularly WC. 

Just my opinion from what I’ve seen though. 

On Lewis it is quite funny to think just a few weeks ago there were calls on here to get him to his 300 and then drop him never to return. Like Jones his year as a whole has been average with a few good performances but again like Jones the last two weeks he’s been solid as a rock and exactly the experience we need going into the finals. 

I think he has been better than average. He has held that backline together all year after losing Lever and also Hibberd for a bit. He gets marked on a curve but he is a role player and has been executing that role well all year.

8 minutes ago, rpfc said:

I think he has been better than average. He has held that backline together all year after losing Lever and also Hibberd for a bit. He gets marked on a curve but he is a role player and has been executing that role well all year.

Yeah fair call, better than average would be a fair assessment. I think there would be things that us armchair experts miss that are crucial to the team. 

22 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

Every one makes mistakes when someone is bias they only see the mistakes and ignore the good things

Which is what, by definition, makes it a bias.

And yes.

Lewis may not be tossing the coin over the next week(s) but he will be leading from the front. 

We know he sent player emaisl after WCE win to say: 'we play to win finals, not just to make the finals'.  Then it was reported that players asked coaches and staff to leave the meeting room after the GWS win.  Unsurprisingly it was Lewis who drove that.  Michael Hibberd today said: '...(Lewis)... is a good guy to ask about the situation we’re in. He spoke to us in the rooms about the week coming up, [telling us] to prepare well.”

I've also heard Viney, Oliver and Gawn say something like he is the one they are turn to and are listening to.  When he says something seriously, players know to take it seriously. 

Lewis is fast-tracking their finals experience and development that may otherwise have taken several years to learn/experience.   It would be more trial and error than a clear road map on what to do. We might just get to the big dance earlier than many expect!!.

What a great right-hand man for Goodwin particularly in September.  And role model for players.

His experience will shine through over the next few weeks. I've got no doubt about that.

He's definitely showing great leadership and imparting his experience onto our young playing group. It's exactly what we need, and exactly what we recruited him for.

I hope once his playing days are finished that he joins our coaching staff. He's a smart operator and commands respect from the players. He'll go on to be a successful coach IMO.

He has performed well enough but I understand he is reaching the end. His experience will be valuable in September. 

What surprises me are the crazy calls to sack him, Bernie or Jones and never bring them back.  I can only assume the calls are being made by people who want to pick JKH, Garlett, and Bugg, because the IRS no one else to replace them!

 

In an ideal world, in 2019: 

-Tyson retains his form and Viney recovers fully and Jones plays nearly all weeks, plays a handful on the forward flank and perhaps,  if we are injury free,  needs to play a few at Casey. 

-Hunt comes on and Lever comes back,  leaving Vince and Lewis to fight for a spot when we are injury free. 

 

But until we have another player demanding their spots, they'll keep going. 

On 8/27/2018 at 8:10 PM, A F said:

Lewis handballs to him, he drops it and GWS gain possession. A chain of nice intricate handballing comes undone when Jones handballs straight to Ward, who laces out and it ends up being a GWS goal. There's at least two off the top of my head...

I'd argue it's your bias that's at play here. As with so many Demonlanders, you fail to see the mistakes and only hold onto the fact that Jones stuck by us through the crap. That's not a good reason.

Every player makes mistakes in a game.  If you looking for it in one player, it’s very easy to find it. 

Lewis has been fantastic the last 2 weeks and his experience will be invaluable next Friday night.

Even IF that email is all he does  in his off field leadership rôle he has done well

And his steadying influence on the field is tight situations is inestimable (though I have no doubt that a few of those here who choose to highlight every negative and see none of the positives will disagree).

On 8/27/2018 at 10:16 PM, bing181 said:

Which is what, by definition, makes it a bias.

And yes.

Incorrect.  His milestone game against the crows was relatively brilliant.

 

On land and ology, we have tended to laud players who play well when it doesn't count or when the victory is relatively easy.  He hasn't played well at all in most of our losses for mine.  Lets see what happens on the wide expanses of the G, against the best teams, when the stakes are highest.  Surely, they will play through his opponent and/or drag him up and beat him home.  If he is an on-field liability in the next stanza, his experience counts for nothing.

If he plays well in the next 1 (or more) finals, I will be happy to admit I was wrong.

If he doesn't, then the simpletons will quickly forget the email and other feel-good rhetoric.  There is a fine-line between the importance of Jordan Lewis, and the impotence of Jordan Lewis.

Edited August 29, 20187 yr by TGR

28 minutes ago, TGR said:

 

If he plays well in the next 1 (or more) finals, I will be happy to admit I was wrong.

If he doesn't, then the simpletons will quickly forget the email and other feel-good rhetoric.  There is a fine-line between the importance of Jordan Lewis, and the impotence of Jordan Lewis.

Absolute disagree 100%

You are expecting Lewis to play like a 23 year old. That is not his job

Win lose or draw next friday week Lewis has been a huge asset to the club and i hope he sticks around for a 3rd year

2 hours ago, TGR said:

Incorrect.  His milestone game against the crows was relatively brilliant.

 

On land and ology, we have tended to laud players who play well when it doesn't count or when the victory is relatively easy.  He hasn't played well at all in most of our losses for mine.  Lets see what happens on the wide expanses of the G, against the best teams, when the stakes are highest.  Surely, they will play through his opponent and/or drag him up and beat him home.  If he is an on-field liability in the next stanza, his experience counts for nothing.

If he plays well in the next 1 (or more) finals, I will be happy to admit I was wrong.

If he doesn't, then the simpletons will quickly forget the email and other feel-good rhetoric.  There is a fine-line between the importance of Jordan Lewis, and the impotence of Jordan Lewis.

That’s crap. 

17 minutes ago, Wolfturdo said:

That’s crap. 

 

2 hours ago, TGR said:

Incorrect.  His milestone game against the crows was relatively brilliant.

 

On land and ology, we have tended to laud players who play well when it doesn't count or when the victory is relatively easy.  He hasn't played well at all in most of our losses for mine.  Lets see what happens on the wide expanses of the G, against the best teams, when the stakes are highest.  Surely, they will play through his opponent and/or drag him up and beat him home.  If he is an on-field liability in the next stanza, his experience counts for nothing.

If he plays well in the next 1 (or more) finals, I will be happy to admit I was wrong.

If he doesn't, then the simpletons will quickly forget the email and other feel-good rhetoric.  There is a fine-line between the importance of Jordan Lewis, and the impotence of Jordan Lewis.

Keep changing the goal posts, TGR. You wrote him off barely halfway through his first year at the club. He’s already proven you wrong. 

He’ll probably play one of his solid 23 possession composed games and the naysayers will cry inflated stats or some bull honkey. 

3 hours ago, TGR said:

Incorrect.  His milestone game against the crows was relatively brilliant.

 

On land and ology, we have tended to laud players who play well when it doesn't count or when the victory is relatively easy.  He hasn't played well at all in most of our losses for mine.  Lets see what happens on the wide expanses of the G, against the best teams, when the stakes are highest.  Surely, they will play through his opponent and/or drag him up and beat him home.  If he is an on-field liability in the next stanza, his experience counts for nothing.

If he plays well in the next 1 (or more) finals, I will be happy to admit I was wrong.

If he doesn't, then the simpletons will quickly forget the email and other feel-good rhetoric.  There is a fine-line between the importance of Jordan Lewis, and the impotence of Jordan Lewis.

His 300 game against the Crows in Adelaide was his best to date, we were on the back foot early when the crows kicked the first 3 goals, we were shell shocked.

He then dobbed one from 50 and another shortly after, it lifted the troops enormously.

His pin point razor precision is going to be huge in september. His last month has been excellent, he can definitely smell that September ambience in the air.

 

Edited August 29, 20187 yr by Win4theAges

Proud footballer. Will lift for finals.

But smart coaches like Clarkson will try and expose his lack of pace and aerial ability. 

9 minutes ago, dee-tox said:

Proud footballer. Will lift for finals.

But smart coaches like Clarkson will try and expose his lack of pace and aerial ability. 

yeah....but that's the same for every single player on the ground....every single one of them.

I’ll admit to being one of Lewis biggest knockers

Mainly due to my pure dislike of him at Hawthorn 

I still think he stunk it up badly against Geelong and failed to full fill the the roll he’s being well paid to do

But his last two weeks have very good 

Hope he makes me eat my words over the next few weeks

and forgets trying to be the He man he thought he was when he had Hodge and Ruffy to back him up

14 minutes ago, Old Bear said:

I’ll admit to being one of Lewis biggest knockers

Mainly due to my pure dislike of him at Hawthorn 

I still think he stunk it up badly against Geelong and failed to full fill the the roll he’s being well paid to do

But his last two weeks have very good 

Hope he makes me eat my words over the next few weeks

and forgets trying to be the He man he thought he was when he had Hodge and Ruffy to back him up

Gees Old Bear, the bloke deserves a medal for not hitting Robbo for a start. Twenty odd Finals plus a sniff of one big one out of the blue 

will have him cherry ripe for a couple of cat whipper snappers. Big mesmerizing ground the MCG.......gotta stay focused....

He has been sensational for us.   You cant put a price on leadership, Melbourne supporters should know that better than anyone considering we were rudderless for a decade.

Showed tonight why we recruited him.   Cool, calm and composed in front of 91k in an Elimination Final.     Jordan Lewis was born for finals footy.

34 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

Showed tonight why we recruited him.   Cool, calm and composed in front of 91k in an Elimination Final.     Jordan Lewis was born for finals footy.

Have a look at his first marking effort on the southern stand wing.  Not setting physical examples despite the 'leadership' mantra.

His kickout in the 3rd should have cost us a goal too.

 

 

Even when Geelong were coming in parts of the last, he gave Kelly a bit too much room.

 

 

We were a 13 goal better side tonight.  Their entries were small, slow and indirect.  You can applaud him on tonight.  A good footy mind wouldn't.