MRP for Hogan and Lewis

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Ethan Tremblay said:

I think Rowe took his acting career to the next level when he stood up and rolled his eyes into the back of his head. 

Either that or Hogan is the next coming of Mike Tyson.

[TRIGON 4,783]

These incidents occurred when Carlton were going harder at the ball - the toughness that really counts!

[iv'a worn smith 1,979]

Was it Weitering that ran up behind Lewis and pushed him in the back with force, when clearly Lewis was not expecting it?  A very dangerous act.  Silly from both players, but I would think for Hogan at least, given his record, he gets a fine.

 

Edited April 3, 2017 by iv'a worn smith

[Nasher 33,613]

2 hours ago, Unleash Hell said:

 

Not attacking u guys personally 

There wasnt much in both incidents. 

Apparently we have depth so it's a good opportunity to test it.

At least find out the results before you guys sook it up.

I'll take unsociable over the p weak crap dealt up in the past any day.

Didn't we beat the cats without hogan and lewis in 2015?

#raisehell

#hardenupyblokes

#pissweskclubispissweak

 

I'm all for toughness, I love hard hits in footy (Jetta on Kreuzer). Even happy for the boys to have a chirp and a jumper punch if they want. But there is just no way you can possibly argue that the side is better off for 2 of our best 10 missing matches because they lost their temper. That is, frankly, an absurd position to take.

And it doesn't matter whether you or I think there was much in it. You might think it's fine, but it doesn't matter, because having seen the incidents again, I'm pretty sure the MRP won't see it that way.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Nasher said:

 

I'm all for toughness, I love hard hits in footy (Jetta on Kreuzer). Even happy for the boys to have a chirp and a jumper punch if they want. But there is just no way you can possibly argue that the side is better of for 2 of our best 10 missing matches because they lost their temper. That is, frankly, an absurd position to take.

And it doesn't matter whether you or I think there was much in it. You might think it's fine, but it doesn't matter, because having seen the incidents again, I'm pretty sure the MRP won't see it that way.

There is unsociable footy, and then there is stupid footy.  We walked a fine line with both incidents and may get lucky.  It won't always work out that way.

[Chris 2,892]

To me the Hogan one looks like he was trying to forcefully push his shoulder and slipped/went a bit high and managed to punch him in the jaw. I think he will miss 2, but may only be 1 with any luck. 

[Adam The God 30,224]

People said there was nothing in Vince's one either last week and look what happened. I think with Lewis' record he might be in trouble. Hogan should be okay, but who knows?

[Webber 10,465]

How in any reality will Hogan not be suspended? It doesn't matter if he intended to hit him anywhere else, it doesn't even matter if he was provoked, the reality is plain for all to see; he punched Rowe in the head, off the ball, with enough force to put Rowe down and make him groggy. And he wasn't milking it or acting. If we want players in the AFL to be held to account for acts of violence outside the laws of the game, he gets at least a week.

The disappointing aspect is that Hogan still struggles to channel his frustration into just playing motivated football. His default position is still to be [censored] off or a bit sooky. Opponents will take advantage of this, and so they should. I think his midfield spells might be the answer. He gets more of it and doesn't carry the weight of his own (and our) goalkicking expectations. And he's a scary beast for any opposition midfielder. 

[Redleg 40,902]

13 minutes ago, A F said:

. Hogan should be okay, but who knows?

That is the key to this, who knows.

The MRP has shown themselves to change with he wind.

A punch to the face for example, can be classed as low, medium or high impact, careless, reckless or intentional and then the MRP can change what constitutes any category on a whim.

Then it can change how it views any finding of a category also on a whim.

What yesterday was an intentional, high impact strike, might today be a low impact, careless bump.

In other words, they just do whatever they want and consistency doesn't enter the equation.  

[daisycutter 29,613]

19 minutes ago, A F said:

People said there was nothing in Vince's one either last week and look what happened. I think with Lewis' record he might be in trouble. Hogan should be okay, but who knows?

lewis's 'record' should only affect penalty if guilty. it plays no part in the guilt of this incident

having said that, this is the mrp so any interpretation is possible

[dpositive 1,665]

13 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

^ It matters little whether the oppo player milked it or not..

If you hit a player in the head with enough force, you're going to cop a week.

Pretty simple.

So how long will the player who hit Watts get?

and was it Petracca who went off with blood from a cut, was that a spontaneous outburst?

[mo64 5,874]

What I find disturbing is that the Vince, Hogan and Lewis incidents were all highlighted as being likely to be reviewed by the MRP on the AFL's own website. The AFL will argue that the MRP panel are an independent body, which we all know to be a load of croc.

[Redleg 40,902]

5 minutes ago, dpositive said:

So how long will the player who hit Watts get?

and was it Petracca who went off with blood from a cut, was that a spontaneous outburst?

Brayshaw had the cut eye and it came from a Carlton knee in a contest.

[Cheap Seats 3,310]

1 hour ago, Nasher said:

 

I'm all for toughness, I love hard hits in footy (Jetta on Kreuzer). Even happy for the boys to have a chirp and a jumper punch if they want. But there is just no way you can possibly argue that the side is better off for 2 of our best 10 missing matches because they lost their temper. That is, frankly, an absurd position to take.

And it doesn't matter whether you or I think there was much in it. You might think it's fine, but it doesn't matter, because having seen the incidents again, I'm pretty sure the MRP won't see it that way.

I take on board your point Nasher and i do agree.

I just think the fan base is over reacting a little. 

Theyll probablyget a week each for stupidity and it hurts our chances v the cats... i 100% agree. 

But I'm also happy to see some mongrel on feild. We didn't lay down yesterday. I don't condone stupid acts but its a different Melbourne and im happy about it.

The Melbourne of old lays fown and gets beaten yesterday. 

In 10 weeks no one remembers this small stuff, they only remember the w.

We as a club need some mongrel...thats just my opinion 

Edited April 3, 2017 by Unleash Hell

[dpositive 1,665]

7 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Brayshaw had the cut eye and it came from a Carlton knee in a contest.

Thanks red couldn't remember detail

[What 18,810]

Hogan will get 2 weeks, maybe 3.  That was really silly stuff and the MRP will make an example of it.

Lewis has nothing to worry about, surely.

[stinga81 210]

Both were silly and got sucked in, 2 week holiday for both of them. 

[CBDees 3,167]

33 minutes ago, dpositive said:

So how long will the player who hit Watts get?

and was it Petracca who went off with blood from a cut, was that a spontaneous outburst?

Watts got a deliberate tap to the face in Round 1 (from the side), whilst remonstrating with another Saints player on the boundary line. No MRP in that instance so it should be the same in Hogan's case thisweek if the AFL is to show any consistency at all.

Edited April 3, 2017 by CBDees

[DemonOX 8,791]

2 minutes ago, CBDees said:

Watts got a deliberate tap to the face in Round 1 (from the side), whilst remonstrating with another Saints player on the boundary line. No MRP in that instance so it should be the same in Hogan's case thisweek if the AFL is to show any consistency at all.

Consistency and the afl do not go hand in hand unfortunately CB. 

[hells bells 2,023]

Peter Ryan from the afl website thought they'd both get a fine and he's normally a pretty good judge.  Personally I think they'll both get a week.

[Ouch! 2,262]

people also need to remember that the medical outcome plays a part too. Vince got 'Wright?' who actually had to go off for a concussion test. I think Varcoe hit Dalhaus hard enough off the line with a bump that constituted a week.

Hogan and Lewis whilst stupid in their actions (as in not in play) saw both players bounce up pretty quickly. Cripps stayed down longer more for Viney's push than Lewis's action

1 week at most for both... 

[John Crow Batty 8,863]

I hope the MRP look for how much acting and faking goes on after players go down when supposedly hit. If they don't even go to the sidelines for even a rudimentary check up then it should judged as automatic low impact and minimum force.

Edited April 3, 2017 by america de cali

[nutbean 8,838]

3 hours ago, pitmaster said:

Hogan should be a reprimand. His opponent went for him shortly beforehand and Hogan responded in kind.

 

Hogan did NOT respond in kind - that's the problem - Whether it was open hand or fist - Hogan responded to the head.

[nutbean 8,838]

52 minutes ago, CBDees said:

Watts got a deliberate tap to the face in Round 1 (from the side), whilst remonstrating with another Saints player on the boundary line. No MRP in that instance so it should be the same in Hogan's case thisweek if the AFL is to show any consistency at all.

Trying to compare the impact of most see as comparable reports or trying to make sense of what even gets to the MRP and what doesn't will just do your head in.

[beelzebub 23,352]

Almost hilarious if not for a possible bad outcome.

That either were cited screams nannyism. Clearly Blues players have eyes on a Logie !

Only Dees pinged to boot !!

Something not right about all of this.