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9 hours ago, Deestroy All said:

No doubt that helps in the long run, but Oliver had 20+ very good touches and got a rising star nom in his first game as a porky 18 year old. Roos and co are good, but not 4 month miracle workers. Taylor drafted pure talent and it's been on show since. 

Where the development takes him is even more exciting. 

As for the the rest of the thread re Trealor, he was easily their best mid the year he left. 

The recruiting over the last 5 years has been marvelous, the only really big miss has been Toumpas, (and maybe Dawes but he wasn't a draft pick). But good starts to careers in the previous 4 years proved to be mirages with many of our players:

Cale Morton: averaged 23 possessions in first 20 games

Blease:  20, 17 and 28 possessions in games 2, 3 & 4

Strauss: 20, 21 & 17 possessions in games 3, 4 & 5

Gysberts: 21 & 27 possessions in games 1 & 2

Tapscott: 19 & 23 possessions in games 1 & 2

I'm pretty sure there were some Rising Star Nom's that went along with these performances as well.

 

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    1 minute ago, xarronn said:

    The recruiting over the last 5 years has been marvelous, the only really big miss has been Toumpas, (and maybe Dawes but he wasn't a draft pick). But good starts to careers in the previous 4 years proved to be mirages with many of our players:

    Cale Morton: averaged 23 possessions in first 20 games

    Blease:  20, 17 and 28 possessions in games 2, 3 & 4

    Strauss: 20, 21 & 17 possessions in games 3, 4 & 5

    Gysberts: 21 & 27 possessions in games 1 & 2

    Tapscott: 19 & 23 possessions in games 1 & 2

    I'm pretty sure there were some Rising Star Nom's that went along with these performances as well.

     

    I thought about them when I mentioned Oliver's first game. The difference is he was in the guts against one of the best midfields in the league. And has continued on. 

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    5 minutes ago, xarronn said:

    The recruiting over the last 5 years has been marvelous, the only really big miss has been Toumpas, (and maybe Dawes but he wasn't a draft pick). But good starts to careers in the previous 4 years proved to be mirages with many of our players:

    Cale Morton: averaged 23 possessions in first 20 games

    Blease:  20, 17 and 28 possessions in games 2, 3 & 4

    Strauss: 20, 21 & 17 possessions in games 3, 4 & 5

    Gysberts: 21 & 27 possessions in games 1 & 2

    Tapscott: 19 & 23 possessions in games 1 & 2

    I'm pretty sure there were some Rising Star Nom's that went along with these performances as well.

     

     

    1 minute ago, Deestroy All said:

    I thought about them when I mentioned Oliver's first game. The difference is he was in the guts against one of the best midfields in the league. And has continued on. 

    Yeah, I wasn't attacking your conclusion, - because he really looks different.(Hope we don't jinx him).  Just comparing that to our bleak previous history.

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    6 hours ago, Vogon Poetry said:

    Because as we know you can't get rid of all your list cloggers in one draft.  If taking one for another means you get cheap deals on other players where is the cost?

    Marchbank and Pickett will be very good players.  The balance were steak knives.

    Indeed. Palmer and Lamb were salary cap dumps. Take them on and you can pay less in draft picks for the players you want. 

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    18 hours ago, Skuit said:

    The interesting aspect will be the likely range of our first-round pick - possibly around the 10-14 bracket. Unfamiliar territory and a genuine test of Taylor's abilities.

    So I assume you're expecting us to upgrade pick 18 by trading out a player. Who might that player be?

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    52 minutes ago, Vineytime said:

    Dear Jason Taylor

    Please find the MFC a great CHB  

    Thank you

    The Demon faithful. 

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    1 hour ago, Vineytime said:

    Dear Jason Taylor

    Please find the MFC a great CHB  

    Thank you

    The Demon faithful. 

    If he changed it to FB then i'd agree with him (don't post a pic of OMAC or Frost)

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    1 hour ago, Demon Disciple said:

    If he changed it to FB then i'd agree with him (don't post a pic of OMAC or Frost)

    Exactly what I was alluding to, OMac...

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    On Saturday, April 01, 2017 at 10:42 AM, Deestroy All said:

    I thought about them when I mentioned Oliver's first game. The difference is he was in the guts against one of the best midfields in the league. And has continued on. 

    Gysberts played his first game in the guts against Geelong in their prime and went toe to toe with Abblett.

    His debut game was every bit as good as Olivers.

    We are doing things much differently now. Oliver will be a star. Taylor would never have taken Gysberts but it doesn't change the first game facts.

     

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    17 hours ago, Vineytime said:

    Dear Jason Taylor

    Please find the MFC a great CHB  

    Thank you

    The Demon faithful. 

    I seem to recall that the pick we were hoping to get for the Trengove deal to the Tigers was earmarked for Jake Lever, who looks a very solid defensive player for Adelaide.

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    4 hours ago, hells bells said:

    I seem to recall that the pick we were hoping to get for the Trengove deal to the Tigers was earmarked for Jake Lever, who looks a very solid defensive player for Adelaide.

    Correct and he would be perfect for our needs...

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    On 31/03/2017 at 6:12 PM, A F said:

    Right. Well, each to their own. Their midfield is good, but nowhere near as good as it was with him in it. He was worth 2 first rounders too.

    The knock on trealor from Collingwood supporters is his disposal. Gws pushed him out to create salary cap space and spread the age of their talent pool by using him and other picks as currency for the future

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    48 minutes ago, Demons1858 said:

    The knock on trealor from Collingwood supporters is his disposal. Gws pushed him out to create salary cap space and spread the age of their talent pool by using him and other picks as currency for the future

    Once they knew he wanted to go, they used it as an opportunity to spread the age of their list. But make no mistake, he would have been a massive loss for most clubs and may still prove to be a massive loss for GWS. And yes, his kicking is his weakness, but it's also the weakness of a lot of A graders.

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    On Sunday, April 02, 2017 at 10:00 AM, hells bells said:

    I seem to recall that the pick we were hoping to get for the Trengove deal to the Tigers was earmarked for Jake Lever, who looks a very solid defensive player for Adelaide.

    Jake Leve comes out of contract at the end of this year and is yet to resign so far.

     

     

     

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    Indeed we do. Mitch Hannan you little beauty

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    What year was Jason Taylors first draft with the MFC?   Was it 2015?

    Looking at our drafting history and trying to work out when he took over 

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    21 minutes ago, Petraccattack said:

    What year was Jason Taylors first draft with the MFC?   Was it 2015?

    Looking at our drafting history and trying to work out when he took over 

    He came in the same off-season that we drafted Salem and Tyson and Hunt (so end of 2013). There's a video out there somewhere that shows Hunt with all his mates as his name is read out, and it is definitely Taylor that reads it out.

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    On Sunday, April 02, 2017 at 10:00 AM, hells bells said:

    I seem to recall that the pick we were hoping to get for the Trengove deal to the Tigers was earmarked for Jake Lever, who looks a very solid defensive player for Adelaide.

    And the we ended up with Hibbard who has been huge for us, so I'm not that disappointed the Lever thung didn't work, you can't get them all.

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    On Sunday, May 28, 2017 at 10:04 AM, Bobby Clark said:

    Indeed we do. Mitch Hannan you little beauty

    Have been super impressed with Hannan's continued improvement.  He has some good tricks inside foward 50 and pleanty to offer around the ground as well.  Thinking about some of the goals he kicks a fair few of them could be described as cheeky little cheap goals, but they all count for 6 points and previously we almost lacked for a player to kick those sort of goals and could dominate the inside 50s for little reward.

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    I've heard next year's draft is a cracker. This year's is shallow. Would JT consider a deal involving our 1st rounder + player this year to Hawks for their 1st rounder next year (assuming future pick rules petmit)? Gets them back in early this year for another ridiculous high profile trade and gives us a second 1st rounder for 2018 draft.

    Obviously not as simple as that, but you get my intent. 

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    22 minutes ago, Moonshadow said:

    I've heard next year's draft is a cracker. This year's is shallow. Would JT consider a deal involving our 1st rounder + player this year to Hawks for their 1st rounder next year (assuming future pick rules petmit)? Gets them back in early this year for another ridiculous high profile trade and gives us a second 1st rounder for 2018 draft.

    Obviously not as simple as that, but you get my intent. 

    We'll probably end up with early first round picks in both drafts. Not only are Taylor and co good at drafting they're good at dealing as well.

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    1 hour ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    Have been super impressed with Hannan's continued improvement.  He has some good tricks inside foward 50 and pleanty to offer around the ground as well.  Thinking about some of the goals he kicks a fair few of them could be described as cheeky little cheap goals, but they all count for 6 points and previously we almost lacked for a player to kick those sort of goals and could dominate the inside 50s for little reward.

    Hannan is a smart, balanced player, a good decision maker and rarely turns the ball over. Contributes each week. Well done to the recruiters.

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    42 minutes ago, Wrecker45 said:

    We'll probably end up with early first round picks in both drafts. Not only are Taylor and co good at drafting they're good at dealing as well.

    Fingers crossed 

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    I'm going to take Saty's line on this and leave it in the hands of those in the think tank that have displayed considerable acumen and results with little to play with in terms of draft picks. 

    I have complete faith.

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