2 hours ago, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

Club: "this is how we want Jack to play within our team"

Opposition: "thanks for passing on your game plan for Jack Watts"

Match committee at oppo club X:

Coach: "So they want Watts to actually put in all the time?"

Chairman of selectors: "They don't want him to slack off?"

Director of football: "Those sly buggers!"

Asst coach: "Ha ha! Now they've let the cat out of the bag! Now we know how to handle him!"

Coach: (thoughtfully) "You've got to hand it to them. They nearly slid that one right under our noses."

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Can I ask, in all seriousness, what the reaction will be if Jetta, Tyson and Kent, regulars last year, along with Watts, don't get a run in the last JLT?

Very little Saty as the media (and some others) expectations of those 3 aren't nearly as high.

Hopefully Jack will let his footy do the talking. On a good day he is top 10 material (at least last season he was anyway). Maybe the FD want him to step up a little further again and think he has something more to give. He might be meeting some really solid KPIs that are the equivalent of many in the team. Maybe he is demanding more of himself and asking the FD to enforce it? All speculation of course.

2 hours ago, Satyriconhome said:

Can I ask, in all seriousness, what the reaction will be if Jetta, Tyson and Kent, regulars last year, along with Watts, don't get a run in the last JLT?

There is a VFL game prior to round 1 of the season proper, and I'd imagine that Tyson and Kent would be given a chance to prove their fitness.

Over the past month, whenever I've heard an interview with a member of the footy dept. (including Goodwin), they've made a point of saying how close Tyson and Kent are to playing. My take is that both will be selected in the seniors if fit. The same can't be said of Watts and Jetta.

 

 

Whole thing around Wattsy seems like bs. Got to be more to it. A misdemeanour rather than training intensity? All too vague for my liking.

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On 3/2/2017 at 9:18 PM, mo64 said:

There is a VFL game prior to round 1 of the season proper, and I'd imagine that Tyson and Kent would be given a chance to prove their fitness.

Over the past month, whenever I've heard an interview with a member of the footy dept. (including Goodwin), they've made a point of saying how close Tyson and Kent are to playing. My take is that both will be selected in the seniors if fit. The same can't be said of Watts and Jetta.

 

 

What's happening with Jetta? Is he on the outer as well?

 

I think it's more what watts has said then done,  he said team would play well no matter what,  I think it's to let him know that u must come to play, it's a mind set 

On 3/3/2017 at 11:30 PM, WAClark said:

Whole thing around Wattsy seems like bs. Got to be more to it. A misdemeanour rather than training intensity? All too vague for my liking.

Maybe it was precipitated by some newly arrived class who made the call and  expected higher standards than Jack was prepared to achieve

Too good not to play end of story 

In this week 

Biggest bs story of all time

Didn't stop some posters start a hen pecin' party

Dredge up all the same old bs

You go, Wattsy!!

If drawing a line through what we knew about Hogan at this time last year could be drawn through what we knew was going on with Watts, we would all be none the wiser....

Really looking forward to seeing how he backs up. Doesn't need to star, but needs to be a solid contributor and do all the right things that the coaches want.

Probably the most fascinating subplot in a strange Thursday night 8.40 game in pre season.

I just want to see aggressive forward pressure from watts when he doesn't have the ball :)! That would make me and I bet goody happy!

3 hours ago, Wunders said:

I just want to see aggressive forward pressure from watts when he doesn't have the ball :)! That would make me and I bet goody happy!

I want to see Watts never not have the ball to prove that he's seriously committed. 

Just to reignite the discussion ( boo hiss).

I will play the devils advocate.

The minute Watts was left out of the first JLT there is no doubt

1/ it was going to be questioned. 

2/ it was going cause intense media interest as everything Watts does attract media interest.

There is no doubt in my mind that the club would have realised this.

The club had three choices

1/ take the easy option and have a word about his standards but play him so it would not cause a controversy.

2/ take the easy option have a word about his standards, don't play him and use a BS excuse such as trying other alternatives or somewhat ignore the questions asked ( this approach would have never have worked IMO).

3/ take the hard option - call it as they see it, not play him until he met his KPI's and respond to media if asked.

I do not think the club handled it poorly or they singled Watts out  - I think the club took the right option even though clearly it was the option that was externally going to cause the most grief.

4/ Hide the truth and tell porkies that make it look like the hard option.

This will all be forgotten by round 2

Bont has been left out of both Dogs' JLTs so far & there's no problem there. At this time of the year, nobody really cares why.

There was no 'problem' with Watts until for some reason best known to themselves, the club leaked (for the first time since the advent of PJ) that he was being disciplined.

Most clubs would have dealt with this internally.

11 minutes ago, Dr. Gonzo said:

This will all be forgotten by round 2

Not really. One of 2 things will happen come round 5ish:
1. Watts is staring and Goodwin is a genius
2. Watts is playing horribly and Goodwin crushed his confidence.

I for one hope its option 1

6 minutes ago, ArtificialWisdom said:

Not really. One of 2 things will happen come round 5ish:
1. Watts is staring and Goodwin is a genius
2. Watts is playing horribly and Goodwin crushed his confidence.

I for one hope its option 1

If it turns out to be Option 2, we can start a whole new thread about who Jack would be offered up as trade bait for - that should successfully occupy the remaking 21 weeks of the season (and then some)

4 minutes ago, mdemon said:

If it turns out to be Option 2, we can start a whole new thread about who Jack would be offered up as trade bait for - that should successfully occupy the remaking 21 weeks of the season (and then some)

"a whole new thread"?
come one we both know there will be 1 with his name and 15 that descend into arguments about him

3 hours ago, nutbean said:

Just to reignite the discussion ( boo hiss).

I will play the devils advocate.

The minute Watts was left out of the first JLT there is no doubt

1/ it was going to be questioned. 

2/ it was going cause intense media interest as everything Watts does attract media interest.

There is no doubt in my mind that the club would have realised this.

The club had three choices

1/ take the easy option and have a word about his standards but play him so it would not cause a controversy.

2/ take the easy option have a word about his standards, don't play him and use a BS excuse such as trying other alternatives or somewhat ignore the questions asked ( this approach would have never have worked IMO).

3/ take the hard option - call it as they see it, not play him until he met his KPI's and respond to media if asked.

I do not think the club handled it poorly or they singled Watts out  - I think the club took the right option even though clearly it was the option that was externally going to cause the most grief.

Agreed 100%

this time the club was serious

4 minutes ago, Sir Why You Little said:

Agreed 100%

this time the club was serious

As it should be, if any of this hearsay is actually true

3 hours ago, nutbean said:

 

2/ take the easy option have a word about his standards, don't play him and use a BS excuse such as trying other alternatives or somewhat ignore the questions asked ( this approach would have never have worked IMO).

I wouldn't employ you as a spin doctor then Nutbean.    I'm sure a decent PR team could come up with some more convincing BS than that.  The club chose not too, which is perhaps a plus. Time will tell.