1 hour ago, ProDee said:

Snippet of inside info (second hand):

Players had an exceptionally tough camp recently at Anglesea.

They had no more than about 2 hours sleep a night.

Lewis ran through Tyson in one training drill.  Tyson not rapt in the treatment.  Scuffle.  No apologies from Lewis.  (I'm guessing this is the standard of the ruthless club he comes from and the type of culture he's brought).

Salem concussed when something fell on his head during the camp.  Don't know more, but assume he's ok.

I believe young Bernie will shortly be announcing his engagement. 

Didn't Bernie announce his engagement last week?

5 minutes ago, The Third Eye said:

Didn't Bernie announce his engagement last week?

I'll edit and delete if that's the case..

2 hours ago, ProDee said:

Lewis ran through Tyson in one training drill.  Tyson not rapt in the treatment.  Scuffle.  No apologies from Lewis.  (I'm guessing this is the standard of the ruthless club he comes from and the type of culture he's brought).

Salem concussed when something fell on his head during the camp.  Don't know more, but assume he's ok.

Thanks for the snippets, ProDee!

The Lewis/Tyson episode reminds me of something similar between Viney and Tom Mac last preseason.  As one would expect no quarter given by Viney, either!!

Hope Salem is ok - he has had at least 2 or 3 concussion episodes over the last 2 years.  He is on the cusp of reaching his brilliant best - it would be a tragedy if that was interrupted again.

Edited January 4, 20178 yr by Lucifer's Hero

39 minutes ago, ProDee said:

I'll edit and delete if that's the case..

No need to delete but this Tweet was posted by @bvince23 over Christmas:-

"Decision making at its finest!! Found the best girl on earth!!

#nicedecisionmaker

bvince

instagram.com/p/BOcEJAsBaLA/"

I suppose that's how you announce an engagement these days. ?

3 hours ago, ProDee said:

Snippet of inside info (second hand):

Players had an exceptionally tough camp recently at Anglesea.

They had no more than about 2 hours sleep a night.

Lewis ran through Tyson in one training drill.  Tyson not rapt in the treatment.  Scuffle.  No apologies from Lewis.  (I'm guessing this is the standard of the ruthless club he comes from and the type of culture he's brought).

Salem concussed when something fell on his head during the camp.  Don't know more, but assume he's ok.

 

I can add to this info

- Salem badly concussed at the commando style camp

- Tyson injured his knee quite badly and will miss a large chunk of pre season training

- Hibberd injured knee also, not as severe as Tyson. 

Not good to hear about those injuries. Tyson has existing knee issues so they might take their time easing him back if he has re-injured it.

Not good to hear Salem was concussed again. Feels like this kid will never get a good run at it

Excitement fading... 

2 hours ago, Lord Travis said:

Not good to hear Salem was concussed again. Feels like this kid will never get a good run at it

Presumably though Salem can continue to work on his fitness.

Just hope this doesn't stop him triggering an extension clause in his contract ...

Edited January 4, 20178 yr by bing181

2 hours ago, Vineytime said:

I can add to this info

- Salem badly concussed at the commando style camp

- Tyson injured his knee quite badly and will miss a large chunk of pre season training

- Hibberd injured knee also, not as severe as Tyson. 

I've been to these commando styled leadership/camaraderie weeks where you get put into a lot of sleep debt and are then relied upon to make good decisions. There were many injuries due to the nature of the terrain let alone a shed load of footballers belting into one-another.

Poor training decision if true. 

Edited January 4, 20178 yr by McQueen

17 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I've been to these commando styled leadership/camaraderie weeks where you get put into a lot of sleep debt and are then relied upon to make good decisions. There were many injuries due to the nature of the terrain let alone a shed load of footballers belting into one-another.

Poor training decision if true. 

What's the purpose of the sleep deprivation?

Does it work like high altitude training for the brain? Or is it just designed to toughen you up?

Picture of Tyson doing a weights session on Xmas day on Rob Jackson's Twitter account  so hopefully his knee is just minor. 

Maybe some of the regular track watches can keep an eye on him tomorrow.

34 minutes ago, Night Crawler said:

What's the purpose of the sleep deprivation?

Does it work like high altitude training for the brain? Or is it just designed to toughen you up?

As McQueen alluded to, it's about decision-making under duress. The theory is if you can lock in good decisions without sleep, you'll make great ones when you're sleeping well.

Most of my best life choices are made under sleep deprivation due to my nocturnal activities.

Bernie may change his mind after a good kip.

The training camp was in Whittlesea, they began at AAmi stadium, Had a huge workout on beach after that then bus to the camp, they walked for hours, slept very little and had to guard an area on very little sleep.  Apparently the Demons were the first group ever where no one was caught asleep whilst they were supposed to be on guard!  The Demon I spoke to said this was by far the hardest thing he has done in his life.  He came out of it uninjured other than huge blisters from sit ups in the sand, but he was exhausted for days afterward.

29 minutes ago, Bells said:

The training camp was in Whittlesea, they began at AAmi stadium, Had a huge workout on beach after that then bus to the camp, they walked for hours, slept very little and had to guard an area on very little sleep.  Apparently the Demons were the first group ever where no one was caught asleep whilst they were supposed to be on guard!  The Demon I spoke to said this was by far the hardest thing he has done in his life.  He came out of it uninjured other than huge blisters from sit ups in the sand, but he was exhausted for days afterward.

Thanks bells. When was the camp?

23 minutes ago, binman said:

Thanks bells. When was the camp?

Despite the name, I'm pretty sure there's no beach at Whittlesea.

10 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Despite the name, I'm pretty sure there's no beach at Whittlesea.

He did say started at AAMI, then went to the beach and then took a bus to the camp.  

49 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Despite the name, I'm pretty sure there's no beach at Whittlesea.

Huh? I asked WHEN was the camp, not where

56 minutes ago, ProDee said:

He did say started at AAMI, then went to the beach and then took a bus to the camp.  

Yes apologies. He did say that - one connects Anglesea more with beaches than Whittlesea.

As for when, clearly post Christmas because there has been vision of Tyson training unhindered at around that time.

I understand it was in the week before Christmas. An actual closed session, it would seem!

Camp finished 21st Dec - was definitely Whittlesea - they were inland in bush - before catching the bus there they were at Brighton beach.

1 hour ago, ProDee said:

He did say started at AAMI, then went to the beach and then took a bus to the camp.  

Just letting you know - I am a she rather than a he

25 minutes ago, Bells said:

Camp finished 21st Dec - was definitely Whittlesea - they were inland in bush - before catching the bus there they were at Brighton beach.

Just letting you know - I am a she rather than a he

But, but your avatar is a man!

6 minutes ago, binman said:

But, but your avatar is a man!

maybe a picture of "bells" grinter would be more appropriate? 

33 minutes ago, binman said:

But, but your avatar is a man!

Well when I signed up there was no woman's AFL!!  

Max is awesome as an avatar - he's staying.  

Sometimes it is easier to be "thought of" as a male, but after being referred to as "he" a few times, I felt obliged to come clean.

 

Edited January 5, 20178 yr by Bells

Tom MacDonald and Goodwin were in Bali over Xmas Saw the returning morning 31st December

Saw Goodwin in Legian