I blame society.

16 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

I blame society.

I blame Jack Watts

22 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

Im rather amused how even now the spin doctors are painting Bomber as almost a victim.

The man had choices. All those involved in either drugs or 'supplements' had choices.

The 'coming back to bite you on the bvm' was only a matter of time. 

Yep it is amazing. Last night on 360 Robbo went through Bombers’ tale of woe he almost implied Bomber had no choice but to end up where he is now. At one stage neither Robbo or Whately said anything at all and I thought they were having an impromptu minutes silence. 

If the guy is guilty I hope they lock him up.

 

20 minutes ago, FarNorthernD said:

Yep it is amazing. Last night on 360 Robbo went through Bombers’ tale of woe he almost implied Bomber had no choice but to end up where he is now. At one stage neither Robbo or Whately said anything at all and I thought they were having an impromptu minutes silence. 

If the guy is guilty I hope they lock him up.

 

Lucky but still sad and it appears  mostly just self harm at this stage. It could have been a lot worse. If his self radicalization was more extreme he might have lived up to his nickname.

Edited May 3, 20186 yr by america de cali

10 minutes ago, america de cali said:

Lucky but still sad and it appears  mostly just self harm at this stage. It could have been a lot worse. If his self radicalization was more extreme he might have lived up to his nickname.

Wow! 

1 hour ago, Cards13 said:

Wow! 

Why O why. Well might you ask.........

8 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

The items in the locked room are reported to have Bomber's DNA on them. 

The largest item seized during the raid was 839.7 grams of MDMA which reportedly was not in the locked room.  Re this item: 

"Senior Constable Bourke said the 839.7 grams of MDMA was contaminated by the clandestine drug unit so DNA could not be found but police were still investigating a connection between these drugs and the 54-year-old".

https://www.theage.com.au/national/victoria/bomb-tatts-and-bang-bang-police-allege-large-money-exchanges-between-thompson-and-drug-accused-20180502-p4zcwr.html

It beggars belief that a specialised group of cops could contaminate evidence but somehow they did...

Maybe it was 1839.7 grams at one point...

5 hours ago, daisycutter said:

I don't understand this dna contamination of the 839gm of mdma

i always understood they could detect (differentiate) multiple dna profiles in a sample and could therefore at least determine if there was any dna from thompson even where there was police dna on it due to mishandling

unless.... it was suspected that the handling of another item by the police could have transferred thompson's dna from that item to the mdma

whatever, i think this 'contamination' needs to be further explained publicly to eliminate any accusations of 'tampering' with evidence especially as the mdma would appear to be the largest example of 'commercial'  level trafficking

It’s easier than you think

 

At a guess, it will come down to police not swapping rubber gloves. The procedure would be when an item is located you change gloves to ensure they are sterile so whenever the item is picked up they can’t be an acquisition of transfer of DNA. 

 

The raid would of been video tape and when they were searching they wouldn’t have realised they were picking up a kg of MDMA (it could of been in normal packaging). 

 

When they realised what what they had it would of been too late because it was video. Realising the money that will be thrown at Thompson defence it wasn’t worth using that evidence. 

 

The cladestine unit also deals with drug labs(the only unit that is allowed to make them safe)  and are required to make the lab ‘is safe’ before a complete search is completed. In the process of making the lab safe the above could of occurred. 

 

 

 

The stench of drugs will be hanging around Essendon for years. Fantastic. I hate them.

As we supporters know, a bad culture tales a long time to change....

3 hours ago, america de cali said:

Lucky but still sad and it appears  mostly just self harm at this stage. It could have been a lot worse. If his self radicalization was more extreme he might have lived up to his nickname.

This has nothing to do with the essendon drug saga, Thompson Left Geelong under a cloud, his drug use would have started years ago, people like to find excuses and someone else to blame when their lives go wrong. it's one thing to take drugs and there's another thing to be a drug dealer no sympathy for drug dealers, Thompson is a rich man already so no need to sell drugs, or maybe he has guilt on his conscience, he brought his Club that he loves on it's knees because he was part of a cheating regime him and hird.

1 hour ago, Wolfgang219 said:

It’s easier than you think

 

At a guess, it will come down to police not swapping rubber gloves. The procedure would be when an item is located you change gloves to ensure they are sterile so whenever the item is picked up they can’t be an acquisition of transfer of DNA. 

 

The raid would of been video tape and when they were searching they wouldn’t have realised they were picking up a kg of MDMA (it could of been in normal packaging). 

 

When they realised what what they had it would of been too late because it was video. Realising the money that will be thrown at Thompson defence it wasn’t worth using that evidence. 

 

The cladestine unit also deals with drug labs(the only unit that is allowed to make them safe)  and are required to make the lab ‘is safe’ before a complete search is completed. In the process of making the lab safe the above could of occurred. 

 

 

 

well i could have guessed that much too, but then like you i would just be speculating

or are you saying you have specific knowledge?

nevertheless a public explanation is required from the police

12 minutes ago, jnrmac said:

The stench of drugs will be hanging around Essendon for years. Fantastic. I hate them.

As we supporters know, a bad culture tales a long time to change....

 

10 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

This has nothing to do with the essendon drug saga, Thompson Left Geelong under a cloud, ETC ETC

 

Yeah, but footy fans aren't renowned for their fairness or good judgement. Carlton haven't gotten over their industrial level tanking, WCE only have to blink for people to recall their drugginess, and Essendon will never escape this world class drug scandal.

We have enough trouble dealing with simply being the MFC.  So f*** the EFC and all who get dragged down by the undertow.

52 minutes ago, don't make me angry said:

This has nothing to do with the essendon drug saga, Thompson Left Geelong under a cloud, his drug use would have started years ago, people like to find excuses and someone else to blame when their lives go wrong. it's one thing to take drugs and there's another thing to be a drug dealer no sympathy for drug dealers, Thompson is a rich man already so no need to sell drugs, or maybe he has guilt on his conscience, he brought his Club that he loves on it's knees because he was part of a cheating regime him and hird.

Well the drug saga came to light as a result of an investigation into organised crime. Which it would seem bomber is also mixed up in. Doesnt seem like too much of a leap to me.

Not to mention that clearly his thinking on the matter of substances going into the body is obviously totally skewed. 

5 hours ago, beelzebub said:

Im rather amused how even now the spin doctors are painting Bomber as almost a victim.

The man had choices. All those involved in either drugs or 'supplements' had choices.

The 'coming back to bite you on the bvm' was only a matter of time. 

BB as someone who knows a bit about addiction, it is a very difficult monster to control.  Individuals are a victim to the addictive qualities of the drug.  

1 hour ago, jnrmac said:

The stench of drugs will be hanging around Essendon for years. Fantastic. I hate them.

As we supporters know, a bad culture tales a long time to change....

They had a gentle dig at ours on their banner last week. Maybe next time ours should say...

”jokes about skiing,

you may continue to bleat.

But you’ll always be known 

as scumbag drug cheats”

 

34 minutes ago, hemingway said:

BB as someone who knows a bit about addiction, it is a very difficult monster to control.  Individuals are a victim to the addictive qualities of the drug.  

He was in a position of trust and responsibilities. 

He had enormous resources and ample opportunities to make good judgement. He failed himself and others.

I have not one single ounce of sympathy for such kind. I dont Ernest.

He not only has brought misery upon himself, more fool him but without doubt he's affected others by design or decision.

If a victim...hes a victim of his own stupidity. I care not for such.

Ive seen the harm drugs can do. They are the scourge of our society.

He's made Faustian deals which are now calling for payment. 

Such is life...Tough shlt.

52 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

They had a gentle dig at ours on their banner last week. Maybe next time ours should say...

”jokes about skiing,

you may continue to bleat.

But you’ll always be known 

as scumbag drug cheats”

 

You've inspired me!

"F*** off Essendon
F*** off Essendon
F*** off Essendon
F*** off Essendon
We know that you're scum
Your ex coaches are dumb
Your fans are all glum
We like what you've become
F*** off Essendon
F*** off Essendon
F*** off Essendon
F*** off Essendon"

16 minutes ago, beelzebub said:

He was in a position of trust and responsibilities. 

He had enormous resources and ample opportunities to make good judgement. He failed himself and others.

I have not one single ounce of sympathy for such kind. I dont Ernest.

He not only has brought misery upon himself, more fool him but without doubt he's affected others by design or decision.

If a victim...hes a victim of his own stupidity. I care not for such.

Ive seen the harm drugs can do. They are the scourge of our society.

He's made Faustian deals which are now calling for payment. 

Such is life...Tough shlt.

I understand your position and your comments have validity. However, believe me, not everyone has choice due ....well to life circumstance, personality and mental health. In this case, you have pricked a nerve. I'm not just talking about Bomber and the scourge of addiction but the whole community of addicts that are trapped in a vicious downward spiral. I'm not sure I like the term addiction but rather that folks who are caught up in this world are trapped because of their physiological and physiological dependence. It does not matter if you have money and fame, the addiction is the same.  Yes, I have sympathy because the future outlook is not good, and I'm not going to state the obvious. Fundamentally, addiction and mental health go hand in hand. We do need sympathy and compassion irrespective of the person. 

4 minutes ago, hemingway said:

I understand your position and your comments have validity. However, believe me, not everyone has choice due ....well to life circumstance, personality and mental health. In this case, you have pricked a nerve. I'm not just talking about Bomber and the scourge of addiction but the whole community of addicts that are trapped in a vicious downward spiral. I'm not sure I like the term addiction but rather that folks who are caught up in this world are trapped because of their physiological and physiological dependence. It does not matter if you have money and fame, the addiction is the same.  Yes, I have sympathy because the future outlook is not good, and I'm not going to state the obvious. Fundamentally, addiction and mental health go hand in hand. We do need sympathy and compassion irrespective of the person. 

I am talking about Bomber Ernest. I dont give a flying f about his demise. I dont. 

His own predicament is testament sufficient..youd have thought. He also without doubt had influence upon decisions that affected the welfare of others.

Mental health is a serious issue. Drugs dont help it. It would appear he self medicated in lieu of help. 

Pile all your excuses over there Ernie >>>>>>

His kind are a blight.

19 minutes ago, hemingway said:

I understand your position and your comments have validity. However, believe me, not everyone has choice due ....well to life circumstance, personality and mental health. In this case, you have pricked a nerve. I'm not just talking about Bomber and the scourge of addiction but the whole community of addicts that are trapped in a vicious downward spiral. I'm not sure I like the term addiction but rather that folks who are caught up in this world are trapped because of their physiological and physiological dependence. It does not matter if you have money and fame, the addiction is the same.  Yes, I have sympathy because the future outlook is not good, and I'm not going to state the obvious. Fundamentally, addiction and mental health go hand in hand. We do need sympathy and compassion irrespective of the person. 

I agree Ernest, but the dealers can go rot in hell as far as I am concerned Peddling their poison and lining their pockets to the expense of our children., destroying our society,.and causing heartbreak for mothers and fathers.

51 minutes ago, doc roet said:

I agree Ernest, but the dealers can go rot in hell as far as I am concerned Peddling their poison and lining their pockets to the expense of our children., destroying our society,.and causing heartbreak for mothers and fathers.

Yes I agree Doc, I was really talking about the problem of addiction. But I have said my peace and will let it rest. 

2 hours ago, hemingway said:

I understand your position and your comments have validity. However, believe me, not everyone has choice due ....well to life circumstance, personality and mental health. In this case, you have pricked a nerve. I'm not just talking about Bomber and the scourge of addiction but the whole community of addicts that are trapped in a vicious downward spiral. I'm not sure I like the term addiction but rather that folks who are caught up in this world are trapped because of their physiological and physiological dependence. It does not matter if you have money and fame, the addiction is the same.  Yes, I have sympathy because the future outlook is not good, and I'm not going to state the obvious. Fundamentally, addiction and mental health go hand in hand. We do need sympathy and compassion irrespective of the person. 

People that do drugs are weak, and if Thompson was just a addic then there is sympathy, but he is making it selling it and he needs the death penalty he kills people, drug dealers are  murderers, let's start calling these people by their real names, anyone who makes ice are bottom feeders.

8 hours ago, daisycutter said:

well i could have guessed that much too, but then like you i would just be speculating

or are you saying you have specific knowledge?

nevertheless a public explanation is required from the police

Why?   That's what court is for. 

DNA especially trace DNA isn't the panacea that it is made out to be and can come from anywhere.

Edited May 3, 20186 yr by Guest

On mmm they just said james hird has been supporting bomber. Well he will be fine then.

Getting back to basics.

Why would you need all all that stuff for personal use? Is there a drug famine coming? If he needs that much he would be a zombie.He was  moving it!