1 minute ago, A F said:

I know we were getting close, Doctor. The plan wasn't to go further, although his wife's tweet does allude to what I've heard.

That's fine, AF.

The sort of grubby, prurient post that appeared here briefly isn't and anybody else who wants to indulge will discover not just words disappearing.

3 minutes ago, TeamPlayedFine39 said:

You're suggesting that 90% of the times he could have influenced the contest, he chickened out (squibbed).

There's been a lot of criticisms of O'Mac, haven't heard that he is a coward. If true, it's amazing that the match committee, his teammates, the opposition, the media, Melbourne supporters, and even opposition supporters haven't noticed it either... truly amazing.

Everyone wanted him dropped most weeks. Yet now I criticise him and he's some kind of gun?

He doesn't pull out from under the contest. He just doesn't put his body on the line. Maybe it will come with time. I don't think he's hopeless, I just don't think he's some kind of special draft pick. 

I'm not going game by game for examples and this isn't perfect but look at his contest here to start this vid. His feet aren't even off the ground and big Max expected more. 

 

 

 

 

Edited October 14, 20168 yr by DeeSpencer

3 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Everyone wanted him dropped most weeks. Yet now I criticise him and he's some kind of gun?

He doesn't pull out from under the contest. He just doesn't put his body on the line. Maybe it will come with time. I don't think he's hopeless, I just don't think he's some kind of special draft pick. 

I'm not going game by game for examples and this isn't perfect but look at his contest here to start this vid. His feet aren't even off the ground and big Max expected more. 

 

You could him a squib and got called out on it.  You initiated the O Mac talk,  people rightly pointed it out and now you are trying to backtrack a little. It's only an online forum,  own your mistakes and move on  

Just now, Jesse Christ said:

You could him a squib and got called out on it.  You initiated the O Mac talk,  people rightly pointed it out and now you are trying to backtrack a little. It's only an online forum,  own your mistakes and move on  

Squib might be too harsh, I'll admit that. Overwhelmingly lacking in the physical presence required for talls was what I meant. If those are different things so be it.

And without speed, strength or skill to mean he's anything more than a promising defender that can be found late in drafts.

2 hours ago, DubDee said:

What do Cale Morton and Sam Mitchell have in common?

Two of the best inside midfielders the game has ever seen.

I'm not sure what kind of value Goldstine will get in a trade if his taps are going to the opposition. 

11 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

Everyone wanted him dropped most weeks. Yet now I criticise him and he's some kind of gun?

He doesn't pull out from under the contest. He just doesn't put his body on the line. Maybe it will come with time. I don't think he's hopeless, I just don't think he's some kind of special draft pick. 

I'm not going game by game for examples and this isn't perfect but look at his contest here to start this vid. His feet aren't even off the ground and big Max expected more. 

 

So... he's not a 'squib'?

13 minutes ago, Stinga2 said:

I'm not sure what kind of value Goldstine will get in a trade if his taps are going to the opposition. 

Let's hope someone sells the farm for him. Anything to weaken our opposition.

 

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The @WestCoastEagles reveal @HawthornFC will be paying part of Sam Mitchell's salary next year. Deal of the century!

 

 

 

Methinks, Hawthorn have lost the plot!!

Edited October 14, 20168 yr by Lucifer's Hero

Saints and Freo have killed it in trade week so far.

31 minutes ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

 

 

 

Methinks, Hawthorn have lost the plot!!

Methinks you're right...   unbelievable how much they are willing to sacrifice to get Jaeger O'Meara.  If he continues to never get on the park, it will set them back big time.

1 hour ago, Dr John Dee said:

That's fine, AF.

The sort of grubby, prurient post that appeared here briefly isn't and anybody else who wants to indulge will discover not just words disappearing.

Hey doc, I hate missing "feelthy" posts - could you pm it to me please?

1 hour ago, Lucifer's Hero said:

I meant that North (and Hawks) blindsided their legends ala Harvey (Lewis) so other players may be disillusioned ala Wells and perhaps Goldstein.

Ummm...you can pm me re the bit about friction in the playing group if you like...please

I really don't think they blindsided a 39 yr old 

I bet when Brad decided to get rid of the 4 players he would never have thought he'd lose wells and now maybe Goldsetin. If they lose him they are going to go down very fast. Its pretty funny. I hope Goldy does go. The nth fans will be fuming. 

Geez pick 88 for Mitchell. Best bargain ever. 

To whomever it may concern.

Please don't include me in the pm about Goldy.....

Why do people need to read about the affairs of others?

The wife will have the last laugh anyway. Kiss your house and super goodbye Goldy.

Can someone include me in the PM about Goldy?

 

I suppose I'd take Goldstein as a backup ruck to Gawn. 

The Hawks are playing a very interesting game this trade period and it could well blow up in their faces. That said Jaeger is a brilliant talent, if there can get him on the park he will be dynamite for them. 

Wrestling with though emotions here, I really don't wish any ill will on O'Meara but I would love to see the Hawks fall flat on their faces after this trade period. 

Pick 88 for Mitchell and the Hawks pay part of his salary. Adam Simpson needs to buy a lottery tick now because that's got to be one of the biggest trade wins ever!

2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

The 9 times out of 10 he had a chance to crash a pack and spoil and meekly raised an arm?

He's got endurance and reads the play well. Can mark and can kick more reliably than his brother but still lacks penetration and touch. But he won't make it if he doesn't learn how to be physical. 

He's nothing special and doesn't justify our decision in overpaying for Frost, which was the point of my original comment.

Think you might have a different opinion in 12 months.

2 hours ago, Elwood 3184 said:

The Hawks are dominating the NAB Trade Radio airwaves today -

• Hawthorn champion Sam Mitchell is officially a West Coast player after being traded to the club today, for effectively pick 88.

• The Hawks did get a win though with Sydney midfielder Tom Mitchell today officailly joining the club via a trade with the Swans.

• Hawthorn midfielder Jordan Lewis is no cetainty to be at the Hawks next season after the drama of yesterday. Lewis is livid with the Hawks after they asked if he wanted to be traded, and is believed to be still exploring his options with the Demons.

• The Western Bulldogs are confident impressive first-year defender Marcus Adams will play out his contract despite exploring a possible move home to Western Australia.

• Hawthorn appears closer than ever to securing Gold Coast midfielder Jaeger O'Meara after a trade with the Saints saw them gain pick 10 - a pick which will almost certainly be used in the O'Meara trade.

DONE DEALS SO FAR:

Tyrone Vickery moves from Richmond to Hawthorn as a restricted free agent
Daniel Wells moves from North Melbourne to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Cam McCarthy, pick 7, 34 and 72 move from GWS to Fremantle in exchange for pick 3.
Chris Mayne moves from Fremantle to Collingwood as an unrestricted free agent
Brad Hill traded from Hawthorn to Fremantle in exchange for pick 23
Pick 3 and 16 traded from GWS to Brisbane in exchange for picks 2, 31, 51 and 60.
Jack Steele moves from GWS to St Kilda in exchange for their 2017 future round two pick
Sam Mitchell, pick 54 and 72 traded from Hawthorn to West Coast in exchange for pick 52, 70 and 88.
Tom Mitchell and pick 57 traded from Sydney to Hawthorn in exchange for pick 14 and 52
Pick 10 and 68 traded from St Kilda to Hawthorn in exchange for Hawthorn's 2017 future first pick, and this year's picks 23 and 36

Wow, Hawks involved in half, 5 of the deals, completed so far.

9 minutes ago, Redleg said:

Wow, Hawks involved in half, 5 of the deals, completed so far.

hawthorn..the new Collingwood...but with some legitimacy

The Dorks are negotiating their asses off!

Lewis to me looks like a pretty no nonsense sort of a character. With that in mind i would think he has made up his mind about coming here,  and knows exactly what his worth has pinnacled at, particularly now, to both his Club and to Melbourne (his future home).

He's the sort of bloke whose TV savvy enough to not have this stretch out much longer. Pleased to have him. 

1 minute ago, willmoy said:

Lewis to me looks like a pretty no nonsense sort of a character. With that in mind i would think he has made up his mind about coming here,  and knows exactly what his worth has pinnacled at, particularly now, to both his Club and to Melbourne (his future home).

He's the sort of bloke whose TV savvy enough to not have this stretch out much longer. Pleased to have him. 

To add to this, he joined the Hawks when they were at bottom, watched them grow into 4 time premiers, and he judges us the up and coming team most likely to do the same.

pretty significant.