FA & Trade Whispers

[Demon Disciple 12,494]

4 minutes ago, DavidNeitz9 said:

Would definately take Dear, wouldn't cost much either.

Hope he's a big jumper, coz at 197cm, he's not exactly towering over other ruckman (though Jamar was only 198cm himself)

ANB out & Dear in perhaps?

Edited October 15, 2016 by Demon Disciple

[Adam The God 30,644]

4 minutes ago, Nasher said:

@olisik?

Pretty much gone missing since spamming DL with negativity for an afternoon. Seemed to coincide with the Lewis deal breaking in the media.

[Wilson7 2,689]

3 minutes ago, Demon Disciple said:

Hope he's a big jumper, coz at 197cm, he's not exactly towering over other ruckman (though Jamar was only 198cm himself)

ANB out & Dear in perhaps?

He's more a forward who can ruck than a ruck who can go forward, only 20, I saw highlights of him kicking 6 or 7 in a SNFL match this season, strong competitior with a tough streak. Not sure of his worth, dont think Adelaide would ask for more than a 4th rounder if he was set on leaving

[Satyriconhome 10,880]

My brain is starting to hurt with all these players we are interested in..............

[Little Goffy 14,794]

A first rounder and a second rounder for Tom Rockliff? Has the world gone mad?

I'd be bitterly disappointed. Particularly given our recent drafting performance.

Put simply, I'd back a 'Jason Taylor' rnd 1 and rnd 2 combo ahead of a $700,000+ jar of fig jam.

 

 

[Dee-licious 1,954]

From the DTTalk twitter account: 

"There could be a big man joining the Demons that many wouldn't have 'Tipped'... as if he was moving, he could have gone further north. #hmm"

I wouldn't read anything into it. They have now asked Trade Whisperer if it is true. Harley said 2 days ago Tippett is not on the trade table at all. 

[What 18,810]

20 minutes ago, Little Goffy said:

A first rounder and a second rounder for Tom Rockliff? Has the world gone mad?

I'd be bitterly disappointed. Particularly given our recent drafting performance.

Put simply, I'd back a 'Jason Taylor' rnd 1 and rnd 2 combo ahead of a $700,000+ jar of fig jam.

Thats not the rumoured trade..  we would also get pick 19 and a pick in the 30's.  We are basically swapping our first and 2nd rounders next season for pick 19 and 35? this season.. plus we get Rockliff.

A bargain for us, if it is true of course.

[TRIGON 4,796]

Rockliff, Lewis, Hibberd, Tippet? This whisper thread's on fire 

[Mickey 4,757]

5 minutes ago, TRIGON said:

Rockliff, Lewis, Hibberd, Tippet? This whisper thread's on fire 

About time!

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

 

4 hours ago, Redleg said:

Wasting your breath, Mahoney is on holidays. 

Very funny man Red!

3 hours ago, Generation dee said:

Shhh I told him I wouldn't tell. ?

And so you just posted it on a fan site on the internet for the whole world to see with information that indicates exactly who your sources are with 2 minutes on google?  If this deal is real why would you post it now?  Why wouldn't you just calmly sit back and wait for it to happen?  Do you think it makes any difference if we know now or in 6 days?

Just FTR I don't believe you.  I'm not saying it won't happen but I don't believe this information.  I think you're making an educated guess and if it happens you'll be an internet hero and if it doesn't you'll come on here with a story of why it fell over.  Believe me if you've got previous form (and I don't know if you have) there is not one footy person who would speak to you if they knew you put their confidential information on an internet site. 

So my conclusion is that you're either a loose cannon with confidential information and no respect for those that gave it to you or you're a troll seeking some sort of notoriety from a bunch of wackers (and I include myself) on an internet site.  Great options aren't they!

[Bring Back Barassi 552]

6 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

 

Very funny man Red!

And so you just posted it on a fan site on the internet for the whole world to see with information that indicates exactly who your sources are with 2 minutes on google?  If this deal is real why would you post it now?  Why wouldn't you just calmly sit back and wait for it to happen?  Do you think it makes any difference if we know now or in 6 days?

Just FTR I don't believe you.  I'm not saying it won't happen but I don't believe this information.  I think you're making an educated guess and if it happens you'll be an internet hero and if it doesn't you'll come on here with a story of why it fell over.  Believe me if you've got previous form (and I don't know if you have) there is not one footy person who would speak to you if they knew you put their confidential information on an internet site. 

So my conclusion is that you're either a loose cannon with confidential information and no respect for those that gave it to you or you're a troll seeking some sort of notoriety from a bunch of wackers (and I include myself) on an internet site.  Great options aren't they!

This may be true, but I can tell you now Rockliff will be a Dee

[Mickey 4,757]

6 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

 

Very funny man Red!

And so you just posted it on a fan site on the internet for the whole world to see with information that indicates exactly who your sources are with 2 minutes on google?  If this deal is real why would you post it now?  Why wouldn't you just calmly sit back and wait for it to happen?  Do you think it makes any difference if we know now or in 6 days?

Just FTR I don't believe you.  I'm not saying it won't happen but I don't believe this information.  I think you're making an educated guess and if it happens you'll be an internet hero and if it doesn't you'll come on here with a story of why it fell over.  Believe me if you've got previous form (and I don't know if you have) there is not one footy person who would speak to you if they knew you put their confidential information on an internet site. 

So my conclusion is that you're either a loose cannon with confidential information and no respect for those that gave it to you or you're a troll seeking some sort of notoriety from a bunch of wackers (and I include myself) on an internet site.  Great options aren't they!

Feel better now? 

Some of us enjoy reading these, regardless of the likelihood of it happening. Maybe, if you have an issue, keep it bottled up

[DeeSpencer 26,497]

3 hours ago, Generation dee said:

Absolute can not believe the news I've got this morning. 

Brisbane and Melbourne have agreed on handshake that rockliff will come to Melbourne for Dunn. We will give our first rounder for next year to Brisbane (which we bank on being 9-13) for Brisbane priority pick this year (19) as well as turning our second round pick (29) into a pick in mid 30s, which Brisbane are trying to get their hands on before end of trade week. 

This is also delaying the Hibberd deal. 

Brisbane will pay a portion of the salary. The only things holding this deal up are Brisbane not having a mid 30s pick yet, and rockliff not having results from a medical back yet. 

Melbourne in- rockliff, end of round 1 pick (19); mid 30s pick.

Out, Dunn, 2017 Rd 1 pick (9-13) 2016 Rd 2 pick) 29

Source- both the new Brisbane football operations manager; and my uncle, fitzroy great, Brisbane scout and father of current afl captain. Oh and for any sceptics which I'm sure there are, this is out of the mouth of both. 

 

An issue with this is that if you trade a future 1st round pick you can't trade any other picks from that draft. 

So by doing the deal as stated we'd need to trade the picks we get from this draft ie. pick 19 and/or the mid 30's pick and/or player(s) to get Hibberd.

[Whispering_Jack 31,299]

15 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

So my conclusion is that you're either a loose cannon with confidential information and no respect for those that gave it to you or you're a troll seeking some sort of notoriety from a bunch of wackers (and I include myself) on an internet site.  Great options aren't they!

Not sure if that qualifies as poster abuse which would normally qualify for a warning under our Code of Conduct ? but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I agree with the point you're making about the suggested deal.

Firstly, it's poor form to disclose one's sources with information of such a delicate nature and it would have been much better for both you and the others involved (if the story is true) to keep their identities out of it - as VP said it's doubtful you'll be trusted with that sort of information again. You could still have told the story by suggesting a trade was happening and nothing more. 

Secondly, as a few posters have indicated, there is a definite query over Rockliff's character as a result of what's happened at the club he captains this year. I'm not that sure we would take him at all now (and initially, I was all in favour).

[Ron Burgundy 8,588]

2 hours ago, stevethemanjordan said:

Pretty bizarre trade period if we land Hibberd, Rockliff and Lewis.

I'm not sure what to make of it actually. 

Interesting also that there has been no mention anywhere of us being interested in any backup for Gawn which imo is our most pressing need.

 

Clearly still not a destination club though.

 

[FireInTheBennelly 4,104]

2 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

An issue with this is that if you trade a future 1st round pick you can't trade any other picks from that draft. 

So by doing the deal as stated we'd need to trade the picks we get from this draft ie. pick 19 and/or the mid 30's pick and/or player(s) to get Hibberd.

That's true and I think that's about the same time AVB was mentioed as part of the Hibberd trade.

Could we use this mid 30s pick plus AVB for Hibberd and Orazio? He was also mentioned earlier in the week as someone we'd been looking at. I have no idea what he's worth but I like the way his form is moving.

[DeeSpencer 26,497]

Just now, FireInTheBelly said:

That's true and I think that's about the same time AVB was mentioed as part of the Hibberd trade.

Could we use this mid 30s pick plus AVB for Hibberd and Orazio? He was also mentioned earlier in the week as someone we'd been looking at. I have no idea what he's worth but I like the way his form is moving.

Fantasia is worth a high 2nd if not a late 1st, he's a serious talent and probably untouchable. I highly doubt that rumour has any truth in it.

Mid 30's + AVB for Hibberd and an early 4th would probably more like it.

[FireInTheBennelly 4,104]

1 minute ago, DeeSpencer said:

Fantasia is worth a high 2nd if not a late 1st, he's a serious talent and probably untouchable. I highly doubt that rumour has any truth in it.

Mid 30's + AVB for Hibberd and an early 4th would probably more like it.

Fair point on OF. Anything could happen with this Hibberd trade. I can see it being the last domino if all these other rumours are true (and come good).

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

9 minutes ago, Mickey said:

Feel better now? 

Some of us enjoy reading these, regardless of the likelihood of it happening. Maybe, if you have an issue, keep it bottled up

MIckey you may be mature enough to deal with this sort of rumour and you might like reading fantasy but the problem is a lot of people will take this to heart and be bitterly disappointed when it doesn't happen while the purp will run around having a good old belly laugh having sucked everybody in.

I'll tell you something.  Rockliff might come to Melbourne or he might not.  But don't put your hopes in the post of GD because it sits alongside the Harry Potter books.

And if you really want rumours I'll send you a PM full of them and you can get your jollies that way.

[Tough Kent 2,138]

10 minutes ago, Vogon Poetry said:

MIckey you may be mature enough to deal with this sort of rumour and you might like reading fantasy but the problem is a lot of people will take this to heart and be bitterly disappointed when it doesn't happen while the purp will run around having a good old belly laugh having sucked everybody in.

I'll tell you something.  Rockliff might come to Melbourne or he might not.  But don't put your hopes in the post of GD because it sits alongside the Harry Potter books.

And if you really want rumours I'll send you a PM full of them and you can get your jollies that way.

You must be fun at parties!

Edited October 15, 2016 by Tough Kent

[DeeZee 7,463]

Did I hear someone say something about Tippett now too?

My head is spinning

[McQueen 17,867]

22 minutes ago, Whispering_Jack said:

Not sure if that qualifies as poster abuse which would normally qualify for a warning under our Code of Conduct ? but I'll give you the benefit of the doubt since I agree with the point you're making about the suggested deal.

Firstly, it's poor form to disclose one's sources with information of such a delicate nature and it would have been much better for both you and the others involved (if the story is true) to keep their identities out of it - as VP said it's doubtful you'll be trusted with that sort of information again. You could still have told the story by suggesting a trade was happening and nothing more. 

Secondly, as a few posters have indicated, there is a definite query over Rockliff's character as a result of what's happened at the club he captains this year. I'm not that sure we would take him at all now (and initially, I was all in favour).

You're saying this now after deducing who his Uncle is and subsequently posting it?

A little hypocritical don't you think?

[Whispering_Jack 31,299]

Just now, McQueen said:

You're saying this now after deducing who his Uncle is and subsequently posting it?

A little hypocritical don't you think?

No 

[Vogon Poetry 2,095]

1 minute ago, McQueen said:

You're saying this now after deducing who his Uncle is and subsequently posting it?

A little hypocritical don't you think?

WJ often learns from my posts.  Give him a break.

[McQueen 17,867]

Just now, Whispering_Jack said:

No 

You are a lawyer.