McQueen 17,867 Posted October 12, 2016 Posted October 12, 2016 On face value of the current situation, I would offer them the choice of this years third rounder or next years second rounder and let them process that. At least next year we'll be back in the first round with better leverage to trade for an established A grader or take it to the draft. I feel that the value of players so far during this trade period is below what we're used to seeing from years gone by. The points system may have something to do with this and clubs may just want to get deals done before it gets too complicated. 5 Quote
Dee1987 277 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Surely the Hibberd deal now can be done considering Jordan Lewis isn't leaving Hawks, I guessing the Lewis stuff caught us by surprise now can focus on Hibberd Trade 1 Quote
fredblackham 19 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 Hawthorn have said Lewis is a required player, Lewis has not said he wants to stay at Hawthorn. Not over yet. 5 Quote
mo64 5,910 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 4 minutes ago, fredblackham said: Hawthorn have said Lewis is a required player, Lewis has not said he wants to stay at Hawthorn. Not over yet. So we're going to offer Hibberd as a trade for Lewis? 2 Quote
monoccular 17,760 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 2 minutes ago, mo64 said: So we're going to offer Hibberd as a trade for Lewis? ?? Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 sorry no comments about Lewis on any thread except the trade thread. alert Wiseblood as the new moderator and agitator. 1 Quote
DV8 2,271 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 1 hour ago, fredblackham said: Hawthorn have said Lewis is a required player, Lewis has not said he wants to stay at Hawthorn. Not over yet. he has a contract apparently. Quote
Wiseblood 24,637 Posted October 13, 2016 Posted October 13, 2016 48 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said: sorry no comments about Lewis on any thread except the trade thread. alert Wiseblood as the new moderator and agitator. 2 Quote
junk 342 Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 Contracts are meaningless if a player wants to leave a club. Why would you want to pay someone if their heart is no longer in it? Quote
Adzman 2,154 Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 The longer the Jaeger deal drags on the cheaper Hibberd becomes. If GC and the hawks can't broker a deal, Jaeger goes into the PSD with a 700k price tag on his head. If Essendon want him, they need to have 700k in cap space. If the Jaeger negotiations break down Essendon will need to dump Hibberd to free up 700k for Jaeger. If they carry Hibberd they are less likely to be able to sign Jaeger. The dees are playing this very well. 2 Quote
Adzman 2,154 Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 Just now, Adzman said: The longer the Jaeger deal drags on the cheaper Hibberd becomes. If GC and the hawks can't broker a deal, Jaeger goes into the PSD with a 700k price tag on his head. If Essendon want him, they need to have 700k in cap space. If the Jaeger negotiations break down Essendon will need to dump Hibberd to free up 700k for Jaeger. If they carry Hibberd they are less likely to be able to sign Jaeger. The dees are playing this very well. Just a side note, I expect Hibberd is around the 300-400k mark, so they might require another move also to free up space) Quote
Hulett Packard III 166 Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 LOL to whoever said this would be the first deal done during trade week. 1 Quote
Redleg 42,151 Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 24 minutes ago, Hulett Packard III said: LOL to whoever said this would be the first deal done during trade week. Plead guilty. I think I said the deal was done and it would be done early. Wasn't told we would change the deal and never thought we would. Great if we get it done cheaper. Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 42 minutes ago, Redleg said: Plead guilty. I think I said the deal was done and it would be done early. Wasn't told we would change the deal and never thought we would. Great if we get it done cheaper. As tends to happen in trade week i suspect a curve ball has come alone, i still personally believe the deal you suggested is what will get done Quote
old55 23,860 Posted October 15, 2016 Posted October 15, 2016 1 hour ago, Adzman said: The longer the Jaeger deal drags on the cheaper Hibberd becomes. If GC and the hawks can't broker a deal, Jaeger goes into the PSD with a 700k price tag on his head. If Essendon want him, they need to have 700k in cap space. If the Jaeger negotiations break down Essendon will need to dump Hibberd to free up 700k for Jaeger. If they carry Hibberd they are less likely to be able to sign Jaeger. The dees are playing this very well. O'Meara would go in the ND. Hawks are reported to be working on a deal with Brisbane for pick 3. O'Meara 100% at Hawthorn. Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 3 hours ago, Redleg said: Plead guilty. I think I said the deal was done and it would be done early. Wasn't told we would change the deal and never thought we would. Great if we get it done cheaper. first rule of trade club... whatever ought to be the first and simplest trade will invariably go down to the wire and sometimes fail I dont think this will quite but a lot to go under bridges I think before its crystal clear and signed. Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,716 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 10 minutes ago, beelzebub said: first rule of trade club... whatever ought to be the first and simplest trade will invariably go down to the wire and sometimes fail I dont think this will quite but a lot to go under bridges I think before its crystal clear and signed. Maybe, if Ess are hearing the scuttlebut about Rockcliff and Lewis they might be getting worried they will have to keep Hibberd, after all he said he is happy to stay. Ess had better hurry up and accept our offer - or it might be gone or diluted by the time trade period is over. Let them sweat, I say - they have no leaverage at all. 1 Quote
CBDees 3,167 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 6 hours ago, Adzman said: Just a side note, I expect Hibberd is around the 300-400k mark, so they might require another move also to free up space) We can offer to take Parish and/or Daniher as well if it would assist them. 1 Quote
binman 44,820 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 2 minutes ago, CBDees said: We can offer to take Parish and/or Daniher as well if it would assist them. Id rather merret 3 Quote
Vogon Poetry 2,095 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 2 hours ago, Lucifer's Hero said: Let them sweat, I say - they have no leaverage at all. Except someone might trump us for Hibberd. 1 Quote
Ted Lasso 19,586 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Vogon Poetry said: Except someone might trump us for Hibberd. Interesting you mention this, the Swans are very keen on a ball user on half back, obviously Hibberd isn't the one they're keen on but i reckon they'll be sniffing around Salem. 1 Quote
beelzebub 23,392 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 1 hour ago, Vogon Poetry said: Except someone might trump us for Hibberd. I suspect Michael either comes to us, or stays. Quote
Willmoy1947 4,260 Posted October 16, 2016 Posted October 16, 2016 2 hours ago, CBDees said: We can offer to take Parish and/or Daniher as well if it would assist them. I'd much rather a hooker and a hurler Quote
What 18,810 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 Barrett says Hibberd will be traded for next years 2nd rounder. 1 Quote
Lucifers Hero 40,716 Posted October 17, 2016 Posted October 17, 2016 17 minutes ago, Petraccattack said: Barrett says Hibberd will be traded for next years 2nd rounder. Awesome if true - we stared down Essendon down! Dodoro blinked first, for a change! tbh I wouldn't care whether it was year or next year 2nd rnd but its good to not let them 'win'!! Quote
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