5 hours ago, KrazyJay said:

Pedersen = 10/10 for effort

Hogan = do we allow margin for effort?

Whatever is going on needs to be fixed

No one player is ever bigger than the club. 

Hogan is continually being harrased by the opposition. It is all a learning curve for him. Carlton is the type of side he might party out on though.

No changes.

It's so hard to justify keeping underperforming players in the side with casey playing so well.

There are a few that should make way for others that probably won't.

My guess is there will be no changes.

VDB out for Trenners.    Would like to JT given a go at marking half forward / defensive forward role.  Think he's a better mark, kick and smarter than Vanders.

44 minutes ago, Canplay said:

VDB out for Trenners.    Would like to JT given a go at marking half forward / defensive forward role.  Think he's a better mark, kick and smarter than Vanders.

Don't mind your thinking but I don't think it'll happen. VDB is clearly rated by the match committee and only two weeks ago was the difference with Watts against GC. 

But I agree with you that half back doesn't suit Trenners anymore, I see him as a potential forward as you say. I'm definitely one that would like him to hang around a little longer, though that might be more sentimental than logical reasoning. 

4 hours ago, CBDees said:

Commentator at the Scorps match has mentioned that JKH has been offered a three year contract by Carlton.

If he plays this week against the Blues they may change their mind very quickly.

But I'd say JKH for Cripps seems like a fair deal 

You never knock back a talent like Cripps, but we're in far more need of an Isaac Smith.  Boy would I love him.

Ps. I realise it's a joke re Cripps

23 minutes ago, ProDee said:

You never knock back a talent like Cripps, but we're in far more need of an Isaac Smith.  Boy would I love him.

Ps. I realise it's a joke re Cripps

you don't like isaac hunt?

7 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

you don't like isaac hunt?

Love him.

You wouldn't like two ?

6 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Love him.

You wouldn't like two ?

guess you're right. hunt has the right hand side and we need a lefty isaac for the left hand

2 hours ago, Canplay said:

VDB out for Trenners.    Would like to JT given a go at marking half forward / defensive forward role.  Think he's a better mark, kick and smarter than Vanders.

He's too slow for that role. Can't see poor Jack playing again.

54 minutes ago, ProDee said:

You never knock back a talent like Cripps, but we're in far more need of an Isaac Smith.  Boy would I love him.

Ps. I realise it's a joke re Cripps

Stretch's outside game and decision making has this potential. Smith is a beautiful kick though. 

7 hours ago, dazzledavey36 said:

But Saty said he kicks it over 50m at training 

His field kicking is fine, it's the set shots that are problematic.

Salem in for Harmes if he's ready to go.

We need more class off half back. 

I wonder if the match committee mightn't be keeping an eye on a side to take into the finals, if so ... Salem in?

I know that publicly it's "one match at a time", but behind the scenes, surely there's some planning going on, just in case ...

17 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

guess you're right. hunt has the right hand side and we need a lefty isaac for the left hand

......salem

Just now, thesleepinggiant said:

......salem

thought of that but he hasn't got the speed and the long kick, but he can be an attacking hb flanker

6 hours ago, CBDees said:

Commentator at the Scorps match has mentioned that JKH has been offered a three year contract by Carlton.

Happy to see him go 

Pedo and Vanders out. 

Salem and Weed in. 

6 hours ago, CBDees said:

Commentator at the Scorps match has mentioned that JKH has been offered a three year contract by Carlton.

We are blessed with small forwards so no shame in not being able to break into our best 22.  Love JKH's attitude and hate to lose him but if he can't break into best 22 he deserves to go where he can.  

Would say thanks for loving the Dees and enjoy your career.

9 hours ago, KrazyJay said:

Pedersen = 10/10 for effort

Hogan = do we allow margin for effort?

Whatever is going on needs to be fixed

Watching the game live standing up on the hill you get a better idea of what Hogan does and leading isn't one of his strengths and he's a lousy disposer of the ball.  A largish contingent of demon supporters in our area and thought the same. Great contester in packs but that price tag must be based on some future upside. On the other hand, that real love for jack watts is now fantastic - his forward pocket goes in the last steadied the ship for sure.  Tyson is straight our engine rook material too. Another 10 possession first 1/4 when it was needed.

21 minutes ago, Demon17 said:

Hogan ... and he's a lousy disposer of the ball.

Rubbish.

Hogan is an excellent reader of the play, a strong overhead mark, has quick hands, is prepared to offload to a player in better position. Is a good kick in general play.

Just needs to get over whatever niggle he has, work on his set kicking (which needs work but has not served him too badly overall), and no one will any longer question his worth or whether we need him.

7 minutes ago, ProDee said:

Rubbish.

If not lousy, certainly ugly. 

Harmes is the only one that I thought stood out as being likely to miss out.

Hogan was obviously off but he should get another chance, get back to basics.

OUT: Pedersen, Harmes
IN: Weideman, M.Jones

Geez ANB deserves a spot, but hard to replace anyone in his role currently, maybe vB, but vB's marking could be important.