MATCH PREVIEW AND TEAM SELECTION - Round 18

[old dee 24,006]

13 minutes ago, Wadda We Sing said:

Agree...now if i was an WCE backman and the ball is coming in...i would say to myself...mmm, now, um... which player will i go too....Chris Dawes or Jesse "the gun" Hogan....oh oh I know!!!!

Do you think the decision would take that long?

[CBDees 3,167]

14 minutes ago, old dee said:

I don't believe Dawes did play last week.

but who knows for certain?

He was injured and spent the game in the coach's box.

[Tessaract 66]

38 minutes ago, Bitter but optimistic said:

Bring the Pedo back!!

If it was the gran finale with 10 secs to go 5 points down and the ball was lofted into our 50...I would prefer pedo to be in contention than jogan...yeah pederson is ageing...but I feel Jesse has hit peter. No disrespect to the guy but we need hard, skilled, swift mids/ half backs with giant knutz. 

 

[monoccular 17,655]

48 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Read an article on club website where Roos said "we feel that when Watts goes into the ruck, Jesse is often one out".

How long until the Weed is ready? Would Spencer be a better option? Leave Watts permanently up fwd....

Weed to debut, or Hulett.....or Spencer who has worked his butt off at Casey as a tall forward option but no.......the chronic underachiever and underperforming Dawes gets whisked back in with no form and no fitness.

I guess it will give Roos another opportunity to say it was lost at selection.

One of the worst inclusions in a very long run of bad selections. 

[old dee 24,006]

Just now, CBDees said:

He was injured and spent the game in the coach's box.

Thank you I did not think he played.

So a number of players at Casey had big numbers could not get a game but a guy who has not played since being dropped gets back.

How does that work?

[old dee 24,006]

36 minutes ago, Deemented Are Go! said:

Enough Dawes, already! 

Wonder what Goodwin's going to do with him...http://m.afl.com.au/news/2016-07-21/decision-on-outofcontract-demon-chris-dawes-is-up-to-simon-goodwin-says-paul-roos.mobileapp

Nice little cop out by Roos. He is Goodwins problem!

[monoccular 17,655]

21 minutes ago, old dee said:

I don't believe Dawes did play last week.

but who knows for certain?

 

6 minutes ago, CBDees said:

He was injured and spent the game in the coach's box.

Fantastic preparation for a big game on a big ground. 

[What 18,810]

47 minutes ago, CBDees said:

Might be a big game from Dawes! He is certainly playing for his future.

CB he has been at the club 4 years and has had 0 big games.  His best game was the upset win in Adelaide in 2014. From memory he had around 20 possessions and 3 goals and a couple of epic tackles.  

Id call that a very solid game, and thats the best hes had for us.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

3 minutes ago, old dee said:

Nice little cop out by Roos. He is Goodwins problem!

Cop out?  Roos isn't going to be there next year.  It make sense for Goodwin to make the decision as he'll be the one who has to live with it.

[old dee 24,006]

If I had any faith that we could win on the weekend that ended  with Dawes in and O Mac still in.

A large liability at both ends of the ground.

The  only up side was Kennedy out

Edited July 21, 2016 by old dee

[Demons11 7,101]

1 hour ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Read an article on club website where Roos said "we feel that when Watts goes into the ruck, Jesse is often one out".

How long until the Weed is ready? Would Spencer be a better option? Leave Watts permanently up fwd....

Weed needs to get a kick in the 2's first 

[Demons11 7,101]

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

If I had any faith that we could win on the weekend that ended  with Dawes in and O Mac still in.

A large liability at both ends of the ground.

The  only up side was Kennedy out

Yeah let's drop O Mac and play Dunn.  That would really help 

[old dee 24,006]

3 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

Cop out?  Roos isn't going to be there next year.  It make sense for Goodwin to make the decision as he'll be the one who has to live with it.

What anoys me Wb is that he has now no opinion.

Will that be the same for Grimes, Dunn,Trengove, and a few others?

They are Goodwins problem after he refused to playe them?

[DubDee 26,332]

We needed to bring in a tall fwd and Dawes is the best of a bad lot. Unfortunately. Pedo still is either unfit or terribly out of form

[Wiseblood 24,637]

2 minutes ago, old dee said:

What anoys me Wb is that he has now no opinion.

Will that be the same for Grimes, Dunn,Trengove, and a few others?

They are Goodwins problem after he refused to playe them?

Surely you're not that naive, OD?  Goodwin and Roos would be working and deciding on these issues together.  Goodwin inherits the list next year, so I'm certain he gets a say in who plays and who he wants on the list from 2017.  Roos would most certainly have an opinion and, really, Goodwin would be silly not to at least seek his counsel on many of the big decisions.  To suggest Roos suddenly has 'no opinion' is a little silly.

[picket fence 17,992]

Roosy you have lost me! How can you possibly pick Chris Dawes on his last deplorable game then he misses last week gets dropped and then you pick him again!?? 

Nup.. I would love you to justify this! Why not Blood Weeds Hullet, sheeit even Spencer deserves a go more than Dawes??

Not to mention developing Clarry Choo Choo! 

But all is Well !! Oscar Love Child still gets a game!

Thanks for what you have done for MFC Paul, but time to hand reigns over to Goodwin IMO!

[bing181 9,425]

3 minutes ago, DubDee said:

We needed to bring in a tall fwd and Dawes is the best of a bad lot. Unfortunately. Pedo still is either unfit or terribly out of form

Pedo has missed a big slab of footy, needs to get his match fitness up. He was never going to be a possibility this week, but Dawes would want to count his lucky stars that he's the only one left standing who can fill that role.

[Tessaract 66]

4 minutes ago, DubDee said:

We needed to bring in a tall fwd and Dawes is the best of a bad lot. Unfortunately. Pedo still is either unfit or terribly out of form

Whilst on the topic of experimentation(see junior burger) Max King has been on the list for a couple; if he is to be delisted well...just do due diligence an give him a crack.

[bing181 9,425]

18 minutes ago, old dee said:

So a number of players at Casey had big numbers could not get a game but a guy who has not played since being dropped gets back.

How does that work?

How many Casey forwards had big numbers? From what I can see, all the big forwards, including Pedo, had mediocre games and low numbers.

(BTW, no, Dawes and Mitchie are not interchangeable.)

The standout player at Casey, ANB, has been rewarded and included.

[martin 727]

Get a sense that Hogan will miss with a sore back/long flight. Hence the unfortunate Dawes inclusion.

[old dee 24,006]

2 minutes ago, bing181 said:

How many Casey forwards had big numbers? From what I can see, all the big forwards, including Pedo, had mediocre games and low numbers.

(BTW, no, Dawes and Mitchie are not interchangeable.)

The standout player at Casey, ANB, has been rewarded and included.

I am not taking about forwards bing.

Anyone of size who played ok would be better than Dawes who was dropped for poor form and has  not played since.

 

[bing181 9,425]

5 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Roosy you have lost me! How can you possibly pick Chris Dawes on his last deplorable game then he misses last week gets dropped and then you pick him again!?? 

The reasons are obvious, for anyone prepared to look at the big picture instead of just throwing a tanty.

As for Oliver, he's specifically being left at Casey for his development, as Plapp noted in his player review. Has been consistent about what they want Oliver to work on.

Finally, it's laughable to suggest that the selections are being made by Roos alone, without input from all the coaches, including Goodwin. This isn't some backyard club where the coach pins up the team on Thursday night after the post-training BBQ.

[bing181 9,425]

1 minute ago, old dee said:

Anyone of size who played ok would be better than Dawes ...

Such as?

From reports, no-one "of size" is really playing OK, which is why they're at Casey.

[Je Roos Salem 661]

16 minutes ago, martin said:

Get a sense that Hogan will miss with a sore back/long flight. Hence the unfortunate Dawes inclusion.

Would he really forego a trip to see his family/property?

[martin 727]

3 minutes ago, Je Roos Salem said:

Would he really forego a trip to see his family/property?

If not fully fit. Didn't look it on Sunday.