The Jesse Hogan Panic Room - all contract talk here

[Flamingdees 227]

46 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Scully was dishonerable about the way he did business, Promised Jimmy Stynes Yadda Yadda and then left.

At this piont I really beleive we need to play a bit of hard ball with Jesse and his manager.

I just have a feeling in my gut that he wil go!

I think we set a very short time line and say, Well u can see whats on offer, are u in or out!!?????

If he hedges I would be very tempted to be ruthless and Say..

Well Jesse, you have one year of your contract left and we.. will trade you for what's in the best interest of the MFC.

If you believe then what's stopping you?? Sign or ,we will see what we can get, cut our losses and move on!

Time to get very business like and not be seen as cap in hand!!

For some reason I have a gut feeling that he will decide to go as well. In which case the MFC will have to broker a deal that best compensates our club. 

I just hope we don't cave and take anything less than what GWS got for the Treloar trade. If we're looking at picks alone it's would be say a pick 3 and say pick 7.  Then we have to face the prospect of three years development and the risk of picking up a dud.

 

[McQueen 17,864]

3 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Acquiring Hogan at his age is hardly going against Freo's rebuild philosophy. Hogan could be a one in a generation player. You really think they'd pass up on him for an unproven high draft pick and a handy player?

I don't disagree with that. My point is that he will cost an awful lot and that will potentially add years to their rebuild.

[Flamingdees 227]

7 minutes ago, mo64 said:

Acquiring Hogan at his age is hardly going against Freo's rebuild philosophy. Hogan could be a one in a generation player. You really think they'd pass up on him for an unproven high draft pick and a handy player?

Couldn't agree more Mo64

[daisycutter 29,343]

5 minutes ago, McQueen said:

He's had a year out of the system. That coupled with 'circumstances' of his defection = cheap.

it "might" pan out that way, depending what you mean by "cheap", but all i'm saying is don't just assume it.

[picket fence 16,704]

1 minute ago, Flamingdees said:

For some reason I have a gut feeling that he will decide to go as well. In which case the MFC will have to broker a deal that best compensates our club. 

I just hope we don't cave and take anything less than what GWS got for the Treloar trade. If we're looking at picks alone it's would be say a pick 3 and say pick 7.  Then we have to face the prospect of three years development and the risk of picking up a dud.

 

And a player who is tempted is a player who will not be in the right frame of mind to give his best! I think its time to force his and managers hand! Declare allegiance or we will decide for you! Time for MFC to grow some gonads with List management!!!

Edited September 18, 2016 by picket fence

[Tough Kent 2,118]

Lots of different perspectives on Jesse's situation on this thread, which is great. Why some posters feel they need to re-state their view over and over again, I'm not sure.

[picket fence 16,704]

2 minutes ago, Tough Kent said:

Lots of different perspectives on Jesse's situation on this thread, which is great. Why some posters feel they need to re-state their view over and over again, I'm not sure.

Do you want me to go back to the typewriter "Clark"??

[McQueen 17,864]

20 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

it "might" pan out that way, depending what you mean by "cheap", but all i'm saying is don't just assume it.

I'm not assuming it.

I'm expecting it.

[Tough Kent 2,118]

2 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Do you want me to go back to the typewriter "Clark"??

No, say what you think and how you feel then move on. This site would be so much better if posters weren't like dogs chasing bones.

[Ethan Tremblay 30,120]

3 hours ago, Cards13 said:

You try so hard Damian but they all laugh at you behind your back. Purple... Hahahha you let them call you that?!

Serious question Cards, does he get called purple because his face resembles the head of a penis while the shaft is being strangled?

[Willmoy1947 3,971]

H should be back next week for the GF and signature......

[daisycutter 29,343]

11 minutes ago, McQueen said:

I'm not assuming it.

I'm expecting it.

ok, define cheap then. 2nd round? 3rd round? trade?

[spirit of norm smith 15,276]

For Hogan

Eagles ... Gaff and their pick 12 (draft 2016)

Freo ... pick 3 (draft 2016) and 1st round pick in 2017 draft

[picket fence 16,704]

Anyone want Fyfe!?? 

[worldwideweb_demon 90]

This sucks. How come there's always so much speculation with Melbourne players from Scully, Frawley and now Hogan. Many other clubs don't cop this stuff year after year like us.

We keep losing our star players. Waiting for the day when a big name nominates us. 

[McQueen 17,864]

25 minutes ago, daisycutter said:

ok, define cheap then. 2nd round? 3rd round? trade?

I'm expecting it because Freo don't hold a second round pick at this stage. I'm sure GWS would be looking at that range so trading of players is a possibility with a third.

[Flamingdees 227]

14 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

For Hogan

Eagles ... Gaff and their pick 12 (draft 2016)

Freo ... pick 3 (draft 2016) and 1st round pick in 2017 draft

Gaff and pick 12.  We'd be ripped off big time but maybe that's the best sort of deal we can accept. 

Much prefer the Freo option you've put forward. 

[Cards13 9,117]

35 minutes ago, Ethan Tremblay said:

Serious question Cards, does he get called purple because his face resembles the head of a penis while the shaft is being strangled?

If one imagines Damian in the throes of  verbal exchange and young Damian vehemently flogging his point, I think one may have a clear image.

[daisycutter 29,343]

18 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

For Hogan

Eagles ... Gaff and their pick 12 (draft 2016)

Freo ... pick 3 (draft 2016) and 1st round pick in 2017 draft

norm, you do realise that for freo to do that they would have to trade in a 1st round pick from another club in 2016,2017 or 2018 in order to satisfy the afl's 2 first round drafts in 4 years rule. it's doable but very risky (and costly)

[daisycutter 29,343]

6 minutes ago, Cards13 said:

If one imagines Damian in the throes of  verbal exchange and young Damian vehemently flogging his point, I think one may have a clear image.

i don't think i'd enjoy imagining purple "flogging his point". i'll leave that sort of imagination up to uncle bitters

[Flamingdees 227]

17 minutes ago, worldwideweb_demon said:

This sucks. How come there's always so much speculation with Melbourne players from Scully, Frawley and now Hogan. Many other clubs don't cop this stuff year after year like us.

We keep losing our star players. Waiting for the day when a big name nominates us. 

Totally agree. It bloody sucks. 

[Cards13 9,117]

1 minute ago, daisycutter said:

i don't think i'd enjoy imagining purple "flogging his point". i'll leave that sort of imagination up to uncle bitters

And yet here we are, horrible isn't it. Fing purple?! 

[What 18,810]

48 minutes ago, spirit of norm smith said:

For Hogan

Eagles ... Gaff and their pick 12 (draft 2016)

 

 

A downhill skiier and a speculative pick 12.

Not close to enough for Hogan.

[Wolfmother 182]

We gave up pick 3 and 14 just to acquire the mini draft pick to get hogan. 

 

After four years development, I wouldn't think his worth(in picks) had decreased

[bush demon 2,010]

The Age article smells like the typical berley that a player manager or club throws out to fingerlings like the Dees when everything is cut and dried behind the scenes. The Only good that has come out of this constant yearlong speculation is the revelation that Jess Hogan is an almost useless kick for goal. So i say, let it bleed.