Changes vs. North

[stuie 7,374]

Just now, Wiseblood said:

True, and I see what you're saying as well Stuie.  What we've done the last 2 weeks hasn't exactly worked, so why not try something a little different?  Their backline is extremely disciplined though, and it would take some excellent work from our forwards to make it work in terms of getting the ball to ground on a regular basis.  It would be good to see them challenged with that task this week.  

If we start just bombing away blindly, though, then we would be playing right into their hands.  We need to be smart about it if we're going to go a little smaller up forward than we have in the first 2 rounds.

Just reckon we need to try some things this week. Our best quarter so far this year was when we made some changes. If we go in with the same old boring lineup and same old boring game plan then we'll get the same old boring result. I'd rather take the gamble of going for a quicker more attacking forward line and see what happens than just let the predictable result occur.

 

[stuie 7,374]

There's also the fact it's going to be windy and wet on Sunday, so a smaller forward line could work.

 

[picket fence 17,062]

Sheeeit Left out Kennedy ( Brain Fade) Ok Here goes redrafted team with changes Vs Norf

 

 

Here it is the "Fence" Blueprint to topple NORF!

B GARLAND   DUNN  JETTA     

 

HB  TYSON  PEDERSON  VINCE  

 

C   TRENGOVE  OLIVER   LAMUMBA   

 

HF PETRACCA   HOGAN  KENNEDY   

 

F  GARLETT   WATTS  WEEDS  

 

R/RR ROV  GAWN JONES  VINEY   

 

INTER   VAN DER THING,   SALEM,  MC DONALD ( VERY VERY LUCKY)  BRAYSHAW

Also, Mc Donald becomes the swingman who goes preferably forward if opportunity exists ( and also where if he Ucks up, it has less chance of costing us a goal!

EMERG  Stretch, M Jones, Kent! Terlich

Edited April 7, 2016 by picket fence

[Roger Mellie 3,988]

21 minutes ago, picket fence said:

Sheeeit Left out Kennedy ( Brain Fade) Ok Here goes redrafted team with changes Vs Norf

 

 

Here it is the "Fence" Blueprint to topple NORF!

B GARLAND   DUNN  JETTA     

 

HB  TYSON  PEDERSON  VINCE  

 

C   TRENGOVE  OLIVER   LAMUMBA   

 

HF PETRACCA   HOGAN  KENNEDY   

 

F  GARLETT   WATTS  WEEDS  

 

R/RR ROV  GAWN JONES  VINEY   

 

INTER   VAN DER THING,   SALEM,  MC DONALD ( VERY VERY LUCKY)  BRAYSHAW

Also, Mc Donald becomes the swingman who goes preferably forward if opportunity exists ( and also where if he Ucks up, it has less chance of costing us a goal!

EMERG  Stretch, M Jones, Kent! Terlich

Lol - you've got 6 players in that are yet to play a whole game. 

I can see them blowing up in the first quarter.

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

43 minutes ago, stuie said:

Works both ways though. Should one of their talls double on Hogan, then he only needs to bring it to ground and we have either Jeffy or ANB unmanned.

See what you are saying but 90% of the time when another tall zones off, especially ones with North's experience, the ball never comes to ground, the defenders mark it. Then launches a sling shot rebound.

[ArtificialWisdom 4,045]

54 minutes ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

In the GWS game Nat Jones went behind the ball which I thought kick started the team. Wondering whether we would swap Vince and Jones.

And probably prefer Hogs further up the ground.

Jones started the essendon game off half back as well  im not sure if he lasted there past the first quater but i know he eventually got swapped to the middle because it want working early. I do however think it might be worth persisting... having a "see ball, get ball" type player in defence is a little different but i like it. 

And i think we can all agree Hogs CHF is better than FF but im not convinced the club sees it that way, for now anyway.

[stuie 7,374]

2 minutes ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

See what you are saying but 90% of the time when another tall zones off, especially ones with North's experience, the ball never comes to ground, the defenders mark it. Then launches a sling shot rebound.

90%? Do you reckon TMac and Garls would agree with that number after Saturday?

The way I've tried to set it up, if someone leaves to go to Hogan to double, then we have high HF goal kickers to kick to instead, and dangerous crumbers around the pack for the spills.

[Devil is in the Detail 883]

8 minutes ago, stuie said:

90%? Do you reckon TMac and Garls would agree with that number after Saturday?

The way I've tried to set it up, if someone leaves to go to Hogan to double, then we have high HF goal kickers to kick to instead, and dangerous crumbers around the pack for the spills.

Sorry, quality intercept marking defenders. I reckon 90% of the balls that went into OUR forward where intercept marked.

Will require the ball carriers to lower their eyes and spot up these targets. Which, for a long time, our midfield/halfbacks have struggled with.

[stuie 7,374]

8 minutes ago, Devil is in the Detail said:

Sorry, quality intercept marking defenders. I reckon 90% of the balls that went into OUR forward where intercept marked.

Will require the ball carriers to lower their eyes and spot up these targets. Which, for a long time, our midfield/halfbacks have struggled with.

Can't disagree with that.

Wet conditions, a tall opposition backline, good crumbers and some goalkicking mids... Let's just give it a crack! We're not expected to win playing the way we're expected to anyways.

[dee-luded 2,959]

9 hours ago, Petraccattack said:

Not sure deeluded but Im already looking to Sundayweek vs the FIlth....

I hope so.  (that we took our eyes off the game ahead of us)   So should be ready this week

 

Anyway our teamwork was out of tune preseason but we  guts'd  it through for wins.  Even if heart stopping.

North are also a gutsy side as well.  So i hope we can click into form. 

 

Yes we need leg speed,  but only when those are ready & have earned it.

[DeeSpencer 25,477]

1 hour ago, stuie said:

To me, I think we need Jones' goalkicking from the midfield, that's why i thought to try him there, and leave the rebounding to Salem and Vince.

Was tempted to swap Hogan and Watts, but just concerned about the knock he copped last week that seemed to restrict his running a bit.

 

It's a big week for Viney, Tyson and whichever other young mids (Oliver, ANB etc) get centre square time. If they can't break even then I don't think we can afford Vince or Jones to do any thing more than rest for 5 minutes a quarter at half back.

Of course that means we no longer have the positives of Vince's skills at half back, so it's robbing Peter to pay Paul, but I guess the midfield should still be priority number 1.

Massive week for Jack Viney in particular. And Gawn against the leagues best.

[stuie 7,374]

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

It's a big week for Viney, Tyson and whichever other young mids (Oliver, ANB etc) get centre square time. If they can't break even then I don't think we can afford Vince or Jones to do any thing more than rest for 5 minutes a quarter at half back.

Of course that means we no longer have the positives of Vince's skills at half back, so it's robbing Peter to pay Paul, but I guess the midfield should still be priority number 1.

Massive week for Jack Viney in particular. And Gawn against the leagues best.

Absolutely.

[Deemotivated 550]

5 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

It's a big week for Viney, Tyson and whichever other young mids (Oliver, ANB etc) get centre square time. If they can't break even then I don't think we can afford Vince or Jones to do any thing more than rest for 5 minutes a quarter at half back.

Of course that means we no longer have the positives of Vince's skills at half back, so it's robbing Peter to pay Paul, but I guess the midfield should still be priority number 1.

Massive week for Jack Viney in particular. And Gawn against the leagues best.

Hard on Viney who has carried this lot from NAB into the season

[stuie 7,374]

1 minute ago, Deemotivated said:

Hard on Viney who has carried this lot from NAB into the season

Don't think it's hard on him. Not saying he's been poor, just saying it's a big game for him, which is true given he generally doesn't have as much support from Jones and Vince in the middle this year.

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8 minutes ago, DeeSpencer said:

It's a big week for Viney, Tyson and whichever other young mids (Oliver, ANB etc) get centre square time. If they can't break even then I don't think we can afford Vince or Jones to do any thing more than rest for 5 minutes a quarter at half back.

Of course that means we no longer have the positives of Vince's skills at half back, so it's robbing Peter to pay Paul, but I guess the midfield should still be priority number 1.

Massive week for Jack Viney in particular. And Gawn against the leagues best.

Huge week for Viney, and I expect him to bounce back. We won't see another performance like last week from him. Similar Vanders and Tyson (who wasn't too bad, but can be better).

[Deemotivated 550]

Just now, stuie said:

Don't think it's hard on him. Not saying he's been poor, just saying it's a big game for him, which is true given he generally doesn't have as much support from Jones and Vince in the middle this year.

OK that's a fair call.

I'm really impressed with his development especially due the fact as you mentioned he hasn't had as much support from Vince and Jones. His kicking also seems to be improved so far this year. 

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Just now, Django said:

Huge week for Viney, and I expect him to bounce back. We won't see another performance like last week from him. Similar Vanders and Tyson (who wasn't too bad, but can be better).

I think he might have been one that was 'tired' during the Bombers game - I still think we might have rushed him back a little after his injury concerns late in the NAB Cup.  Hopefully with a couple of weeks under his belt he is ready to bounce back to some good form.

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26 minutes ago, Wiseblood said:

I think he might have been one that was 'tired' during the Bombers game - I still think we might have rushed him back a little after his injury concerns late in the NAB Cup.  Hopefully with a couple of weeks under his belt he is ready to bounce back to some good form.

Hopefully Kent and Brayshaw bounce back too, if selected. They both looked very lethargic, though Brayshaw was clearly brought back too early.

[DeeSpencer 25,477]

38 minutes ago, Deemotivated said:

Hard on Viney who has carried this lot from NAB into the season

He's in the leadership group, he nearly won the B+F last year, he gets talked up as the best trainer and the leader of the young players. 

Conditions should suit. Ziebell, Cunnington and Swallow are all what I'd describe as very solid but not spectacular players. Within the limits of the game plan I'd assign someone like ANB to mind Wells for part of the game. 

I know Viney will always give his best but if he's to be a champion player this is a great opportunity to do what the champs do and not play 2 bad games in a row.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,778]

2 hours ago, stuie said:

There's also the fact it's going to be windy and wet on Sunday, so a smaller forward line could work.

 

They're only predicting 0-2 mm of rain @ 50% chance.

So it won't be all that wet, if at all.

[Lucifers Hero 39,606]

This should please a lot of people - Dunn in the mix this week: http://www.melbournefc.com.au/news/2016-04-07/dunn-in-the-mix-to-return-roos

By saying how well Daniher played last week is a little acknowledgement that Roos et al made a mistake leaving him out.

[stuie 7,374]

46 minutes ago, Bring-Back-Powell said:

They're only predicting 0-2 mm of rain @ 50% chance.

So it won't be all that wet, if at all.

Wet enough to be slippery, plus there's the wind, both of which are expected in the morning and early arvo.

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2 hours ago, DeeSpencer said:

It's a big week for Viney, Tyson and whichever other young mids (Oliver, ANB etc) get centre square time. If they can't break even then I don't think we can afford Vince or Jones to do any thing more than rest for 5 minutes a quarter at half back.

Of course that means we no longer have the positives of Vince's skills at half back, so it's robbing Peter to pay Paul, but I guess the midfield should still be priority number 1.

Massive week for Jack Viney in particular. And Gawn against the leagues best.

I wonder if some kids will get a rest after this Tassie game?

 

I just feel that we need Oliver's mental tenacity  down in Tassie,  but that after this game,  he may get a much needed rest.   Back to Casey for a couple of weeks min'.

Also,  Hogan may get a week off footy, soon as well ?    That could shake up the goal to goal line.

Depth is important for us now, (2016)  with less rotations & a young list.

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12 minutes ago, dee-luded said:

I wonder if some kids will get a rest after this Tassie game?

 

I just feel that we need Oliver's mental tenacity  down in Tassie,  but that after this game,  he may get a much needed rest.   Back to Casey for a couple of weeks min'.

Also,  Hogan may get a week off footy, soon as well ?    That could shake up the goal to goal line.

Depth is important for us now, (2016)  with less rotations & a young list.

I would only rest Hogan once Dawes returns to the side.

A forward line headed by Pedersen and Frost scares me.

[binman 42,686]

A win this week would annoy me as it would just reinforce what a chance we missed last week. A win means nothing and i almost hope we lose.

 

JOKES!!!!!

 

i hope we smash them.

 

Go dees!

 

Edited April 7, 2016 by binman