Demon trucker 1,800 Posted May 1, 2024 Posted May 1, 2024 On 21/03/2024 at 14:05, Its Time for Another said: Agree with you that the purpose of the northern academy's was to find players who wouldn't otherwise play AFL. Heeney is the poster boy for the success for this. Blakey and Mills who already played AFL in a junior club are not. But how you police that I don't know. Don't agree with you at all on COLA. I live in Sydney and there is a very clearly identifiable difference in COL up here compared to any other city in Australia. Especially compared to somewhere like Geelong who get a massive COL advantage. The whole COLA outrage and the Buddy deal was a scurrilous beat up by Eddie Everywhere. The COLA component of the salary cap was audited by the AFL every year. It was allocated per rata to each player on the list. There was no pooling of the money and giving it to just one player, Buddy. Swans and GWS will always run with a substantial disadvantage at. attracting players because of this disparity. It has had a significant effect on their trading since it was taken away. Sidney at a disadvantage at attracting players they've never had a problem 2 Quote
Demon trucker 1,800 Posted May 2, 2024 Posted May 2, 2024 12 hours ago, Deelectable said: It will really test my loyalty to this game and following AFL should Kalani end up at the Suns. On one hand the AFL, media and football world spruik the romanticism of the notion of a son following in his father's footsteps at his beloved club. On the other, a contrived academy rule can gazump this notion to rob a club the opportunity of recruiting a 'favourite son'. Read Nick Blakey. Make up your mind! It's an absolute farce. To lose a 10+ year potential KP is unpalatable. If the AFL really want F/S to remain it should always take precedence over gluttonous northern academies. That says something more about north then the system, his father obviously didn't really love North, 1 Quote
Neil Crompton 5,852 Posted May 2, 2024 Posted May 2, 2024 2 hours ago, Demon trucker said: Sidney at a disadvantage at attracting players they've never had a problem Sidney who? 1 Quote
Purple77 1,025 Posted May 2, 2024 Posted May 2, 2024 Academies are meant to generate interest to those who wouldn't otherwise play the game. Should not apply to F/S. Makes a mockery of the intent. 5 2 Quote
daisycutter 30,021 Posted May 2, 2024 Posted May 2, 2024 2 minutes ago, Purple77 said: Academies are meant to generate interest to those who wouldn't otherwise play the game. Should not apply to F/S. Makes a mockery of the intent. mockery is one of the many synonyms for afl 1 2 1 Quote
Moonshadow 17,678 Posted May 3, 2024 Posted May 3, 2024 On 02/05/2024 at 09:24, Gawndy the Great said: How old are his twin brothers? Can we possibly break a record and have 3 White's playing at the one time for the same club? All KPP (CHB, Ruc, CHF)! 3 Whites and 2 Browns??? Sounding a bit like like Reservoir Dogs! 2 3 Quote
The Lobster Effect 900 Posted May 3, 2024 Posted May 3, 2024 1 hour ago, Moonshadow said: 3 Whites and 2 Browns??? Sounding a bit like like Reservoir Dogs! Then do we recruit Tom Green from GWS and Toby Pink from North? Honoury mention Mason Redman. Unfortunately Simon Black and Robbie Grey have retired. 2 2 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,863 Posted May 3, 2024 Posted May 3, 2024 (edited) On 02/05/2024 at 09:24, Gawndy the Great said: How old are his twin brothers? Can we possibly break a record and have 3 White's playing at the one time for the same club? All KPP (CHB, Ruc, CHF)! 12 or so, i think? a long while off the father-son rules could have changed six times by the time they're draft eligible! Edited May 3, 2024 by whatwhat say what 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,748 Posted May 8, 2024 Posted May 8, 2024 Jeff White was interviewed brilliantly on the DeeBrief this week and spoke a bit about Kalani. Definitely worth a listen! 2 Quote
Dee Boys 934 Posted May 8, 2024 Posted May 8, 2024 Sounds like a much closer race for his services than it was a couple of years ago. Kalani's always been a Melbourne supporter but the lure of staying at home and playing with the mates he's come through the Suns with would be really strong. Good to hear Jeff say the Dees have been fantastic with Kalani and the family though, sounds like we're doing all we can. 2 1 2 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,863 Posted May 8, 2024 Posted May 8, 2024 Just now, Dee Boys said: Sounds like a much closer race for his services than it was a couple of years ago. Kalani's always been a Melbourne supporter but the lure of staying at home and playing with the mates he's come through the Suns with would be really strong. Good to hear Jeff say the Dees have been fantastic with Kalani and the family though, sounds like we're doing all we can. kalani is mad melbourne and has been integrated into our culture over a long period of time as jeff himself said in the interview, kalani has only been involved in the suns' academy for 12-18 months the bigger q is around what changes are made to academy / father-son bidding processes and how that effects everyone going forward it was interesting jeff said that the '07 crop' is even stronger than last year's draft haul that gc17 was able to claim, which means that it might be harder for gc17 to 'claim' all those locals that are part of the talent pathway kalani is coming to the dees imo and it sounds like he's developing really nicely as a talent 3 2 Quote
YesitwasaWin4theAges 6,830 Posted May 9, 2024 Posted May 9, 2024 (edited) Surely Kalani wants to hear the roar of the G at a Prime time club, Play In Anzac eve and King's Birthday clashes or play in front of 5k fans every 2nd week. The choice is clear for the young lad, I'm sure he has recieved all the advice in the world, but I reckon the year 2021 cemented where he wants to play his football. Another in 2024 wouldn't go astray either. On the other hand the club would have been sending ex players kids club supporter packs since they've been knee high to a grasshopper like all good clubs should. Not worried one bit about Kalani's decision. Edited May 9, 2024 by YesitwasaWin4theAges 2 Quote
Little Goffy 14,969 Posted May 9, 2024 Posted May 9, 2024 On 03/05/2024 at 18:46, Moonshadow said: 3 Whites and 2 Browns??? Sounding a bit like like Reservoir Dogs! I think it's an infographic from the census. 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,748 Posted May 9, 2024 Posted May 9, 2024 2 hours ago, Dee Boys said: Sounds like a much closer race for his services than it was a couple of years ago. Kalani's always been a Melbourne supporter but the lure of staying at home and playing with the mates he's come through the Suns with would be really strong. Good to hear Jeff say the Dees have been fantastic with Kalani and the family though, sounds like we're doing all we can. I think Jeff is just being diplomatic, which he has to be of course given his involvement in Queensland footy. I think the new points rules will actually help as Jeff mentioned the brother of Bodhi Uwland is expected to go high, plus another player. If Kalani is a top 10-20 pick they probably wouldn't be able to pick them all up anyway, so his manager will probably push him towards the Dees anyway. I'm pretty comfortable he chooses us anyway but just food for thought. 3 Quote
whatwhat say what 23,863 Posted May 9, 2024 Posted May 9, 2024 1 hour ago, DistrACTION Jackson said: I think Jeff is just being diplomatic, which he has to be of course given his involvement in Queensland footy. I think the new points rules will actually help as Jeff mentioned the brother of Bodhi Uwland is expected to go high, plus another player. If Kalani is a top 10-20 pick they probably wouldn't be able to pick them all up anyway, so his manager will probably push him towards the Dees anyway. I'm pretty comfortable he chooses us anyway but just food for thought. no, suns don't have the top 40 pick cap like other academies hence why they were able to pick up four in the top 20 last year 1 1 Quote
DistrACTION Jackson 10,748 Posted May 9, 2024 Posted May 9, 2024 7 minutes ago, whatwhat say what said: no, suns don't have the top 40 pick cap like other academies hence why they were able to pick up four in the top 20 last year Wasn't referring to that, more that the AFL will be tightening rules so they can't use 4-5 picks in the 30s or 40s to get academy selections. So if they have 2-3 players in the top 10-20 it will be more difficult for them to take all of them. 1 Quote
Fat Tony 5,337 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 57 minutes ago, Demonland said: Similar timing to his old man as well! 1 Quote
spirit of norm smith 16,679 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Demonland said: Timing completely off 🤣🤣🤣 1 Quote
Timothy Reddan-A'Blew 5,690 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 I've got to ask: What do these results mean to young Kalani?... SUNS 👊👊 Cats Eagles 👊 DEMONS 🤔 1 1 Quote
Deemania since 56 6,810 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 On 09/05/2024 at 09:46, whatwhat say what said: kalani is mad melbourne and has been integrated into our culture over a long period of time as jeff himself said in the interview, kalani has only been involved in the suns' academy for 12-18 months the bigger q is around what changes are made to academy / father-son bidding processes and how that effects everyone going forward it was interesting jeff said that the '07 crop' is even stronger than last year's draft haul that gc17 was able to claim, which means that it might be harder for gc17 to 'claim' all those locals that are part of the talent pathway kalani is coming to the dees imo and it sounds like he's developing really nicely as a talent Time for his Daddy, Jeff, to speak with the outstanding gentleman called Max Gawn; Gawny and family could make a semi-permanent room at their home for young Kalani (with Jeff's encouragement) whilst starting training with the Dees' blessing at Casey combined with regular Demon coaching and contact from Jeff himself, so that the father-and-son considerations are even stronger. If Kalani is really keen, one-eyed and committed to the Dees, the door is open under such arrangements, surely? 2 Quote
Swooper Northey 499 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 1 hour ago, Deemania since 56 said: Time for his Daddy, Jeff, to speak with the outstanding gentleman called Max Gawn; Gawny and family could make a semi-permanent room at their home for young Kalani (with Jeff's encouragement) whilst starting training with the Dees' blessing at Casey combined with regular Demon coaching and contact from Jeff himself, so that the father-and-son considerations are even stronger. If Kalani is really keen, one-eyed and committed to the Dees, the door is open under such arrangements, surely? Max is a brilliant clubman and leader who I'm sure would love to see Kalani at Melbourne, but with a wife and two babies I don't think we should expect him to run a boarding house for potential recruits. There's plenty of good Melbourne people who would could take Kalani under their wing in the hope he will thrive in the red and blue. 3 1 Quote
Swooper Northey 499 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 (edited) 2 hours ago, Deemania since 56 said: Time for his Daddy, Jeff, to speak with the outstanding gentleman called Max Gawn; Gawny and family could make a semi-permanent room at their home for young Kalani (with Jeff's encouragement) whilst starting training with the Dees' blessing at Casey combined with regular Demon coaching and contact from Jeff himself, so that the father-and-son considerations are even stronger. If Kalani is really keen, one-eyed and committed to the Dees, the door is open under such arrangements, surely? He will be a Demon. Saw Kalani and Jeff at training last year as special guests of Tim Lamb. Kalani spent lots of one on one time talking to coaches and senior players who were all showing keen interest in his progress. Watch this space. Edited May 20, 2024 by Swooper Northey 7 1 Quote
Greg Schneider 1,018 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 Is he actually any good? Like genuine question, are we talking a lock for first round this stage? Fair bit of water to pass under the bridge yet 1 Quote
Swooper Northey 499 Posted May 20, 2024 Posted May 20, 2024 4 minutes ago, Jeremy said: Is he actually any good? Like genuine question, are we talking a lock for first round this stage? Fair bit of water to pass under the bridge yet Made last year's U16 All-Australian team. Described as a tall defender who showed he can also go forward and really excite with his athleticism and outstanding overhead marking. Has a supernatural leap and the size to win the contest or bring the ball to ground to the benefit of his team. Rarely beaten one-on-one, averaging 7.3 disposals and 2.3 marks playing predominately in deep defence. 3 3 Quote
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