Differing opinions

[ManDee 7,091]

Time to move on. I am more interested in current and future postings about football.

Most of the time posts reflect a variety of opinions that are worth reading. The Essendon drug saga was a case in point. Sure it dragged on to saturation point, but there were many well informed and intelligent views expressed on this the matter.

However, material life is temporary and posters life on this site is temporary. People come and people go. However, I suspect that many lose patience and depart this site due to the ridicule and at times trivial criticisms of others. It's just a waste of time.

I have never met Saty nor do I wish too. Assuming he has left this site for greener pastures its time to forget him. He seems to me just an ordinary guy who had his faults but was trying to do the right thing by posting training reports. Some liked them some didn't. . But it really is a waste of time to spend time talking about the past and dredging up the same old stuff. This is of course part of the deal with social media. If you don't like it don't use it. However, with Saty or whatever name his goes under its time to forget the past and move on. Forgive and forget.

Ernie you have a fairly grim view of history.

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it". George Santayana or later Churchill's "Those who fail to learn from history are doomed to repeat it"

[stuie 7,374]

Stuie at it again hammering people for having a different opinion to Satyr or pointing out the fact that Satyr was actuaully full of nothing but hot air.

Yes he went to training and chatted (bothered) to all the players. But his observations of player skills was useless compared to others that post training reports. I mean really.

And when the [censored] was really flying inside the club back in 12-13 Satyr would attack anyone who questioned club stability. He was blinded

And as i said at the time These people can be dangerous when times are bad because they wear blinlers.

Wouldn't suprise me at all if Schwab gave him the odd bonus to talk up the place on here

The reality of which we are still to know the full extent...

Funny how you bag out someone else's contributions when you're nearly up to 26,000 posts of the same stuff over and over.

As I posted just 3 days ago:

WYL only ever has three answers he chooses from:

1) We suck/sucked

2) It's an AFL conspiracy

3) It is/was Schwab's fault

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/39395-94-vs-98-forward-lines-which-one-was-better/?p=1183763

I wasn't "hammering" anyone for not agreeing with Saty, I was just saying that compared to posters like yourself who post thousands and thousands (26,000) of the same comments over and over, at least Saty was contributing something constructive and about footy, whether you liked him or not.

Maybe you should go start a Schwab discussion board somewhere.

[Sir Why You Little 34,614]

Funny how you bag out someone else's contributions when you're nearly up to 26,000 posts of the same stuff over and over.

As I posted just 3 days ago:

WYL only ever has three answers he chooses from:

1) We suck/sucked

2) It's an AFL conspiracy

3) It is/was Schwab's fault

http://demonland.com/forums/index.php?/topic/39395-94-vs-98-forward-lines-which-one-was-better/?p=1183763

I wasn't "hammering" anyone for not agreeing with Saty, I was just saying that compared to posters like yourself who post thousands and thousands (26,000) of the same comments over and over, at least Saty was contributing something constructive and about footy, whether you liked him or not.

Maybe you should go start a Schwab discussion board somewhere.

BANG ON CUE

Like a little lap dog

Just because you posted something 3 weeks ago makes it the Gospel standard doesn't it Stuie...

I know you loved CS but seriously am i wrong?

Slip Satyr a couple of $50's he would have typed anything

I mean he was still defending Neeld as he was cleaning out the desk!

[P-man 13,224]

The sarcasm and blatant rudeness you see on here from some posters is completely unnecessary and is what leads to many threads devolving into sh!tfights.

You can't be a complete ar$ehole in the way you critique someone's else's opinion, and then turn around to claim that strictly speaking, you didn't insult them personally. Belittling someone's opinion in an overtly rude way is insulting. If they fire a personal insult back at you, you don't have any right to call foul. You shouldn't have been an ar$ehole in the first place.

Keep the humour, but a little diplomacy and class wouldn't go astray. Remember you are talking to another Melbourne supporter. They aren't the enemy.

Edited November 6, 2015 by P-man

[stuie 7,374]

BANG ON CUE

Like a little lap dog

Just because you posted something 3 weeks ago makes it the Gospel standard doesn't it Stuie...

I know you loved CS but seriously am i wrong?

Slip Satyr a couple of $50's he would have typed anything

I mean he was still defending Neeld as he was cleaning out the desk!

Haha do you even get it yet?

Yeah you're right, back when we sucked there was a conspiracy where our CEO Cameron Schwab probably paid random supporters to write positive things...

You're a broken record.

[Guest]

The sarcasm and blatant rudeness you see on here from some posters is completely unnecessary and is what leads to many threads devolving into sh!tfights.

You can't be a complete ar$ehole in the way you critique someone's else's opinion, and then turn around to claim that strictly speaking, you didn't insult them personally. Belittling someone's opinion in an overtly rude way is insulting. If they fire a personal insult back at you, you don't have any right to call foul. You shouldn't have been an ar$ehole in the first place.

Keep the humour, but a little diplomacy and class wouldn't go astray. Remember you are talking to another Melbourne supporter. They aren't the enemy.

I think the best role model to look at if you are a new poster on here, and I don't say this to be sycophantic, would be Macca. He and I have had disagreements about tanking. He felt that Hawthorn and Collingwood tanked and it resulted in premierships (I hope I haven't misrepresented him there). I obviously have a contrary opinion that I won't go into here as it will derail my point.

Never once in our arguments have I ever felt insulted, spoken down to or belittled for having an opposing view. At the end of the day, he and I don't see eye to eye on that issue but it doesn't make me think any less of him (and I hope that he doesn't think any less of me).

[Sir Why You Little 34,614]

Haha do you even get it yet?

Yeah you're right, back when we sucked there was a conspiracy where our CEO Cameron Schwab probably paid random supporters to write positive things...

You're a broken record.

Yes i get it all very plainly

You are such a painful person

I get it.

[stuie 7,374]

I think the best role model to look at if you are a new poster on here, and I don't say this to be sycophantic, would be Macca. He and I have had disagreements about tanking. He felt that Hawthorn and Collingwood tanked and it resulted in premierships (I hope I haven't misrepresented him there). I obviously have a contrary opinion that I won't go into here as it will derail my point.

Never once in our arguments have I ever felt insulted, spoken down to or belittled for having an opposing view. At the end of the day, he and I don't see eye to eye on that issue but it doesn't make me think any less of him (and I hope that he doesn't think any less of me).

There's posters I've had respectful disagreements and discussions with here, there's posters who have PM'd me horrible insults about my family.

It's a mixed bag, and unfortunately the bad ones effect most of us more in what our reactions will generally be.

Edited November 6, 2015 by stuie

[stuie 7,374]

Yes i get it all very plainly

You are such a painful person

I get it.

Look, I'm glad Schwab's gone. His heart was in the right place, he tried his best, he just wasn't the right guy for the job.

But come on, suggesting he paid supporters for positive training reports? Bit silly.

[ManDee 7,091]

Hey mods, can we have a vote out a poster for a week button. Must get 10 separate posters to vote for a holiday. We could have a vote for, to get them back. It would give some posters an idea of how un/popular they really are. I think some are delusional. -That is probably me.

[Guest]

Hey mods, can we have a vote out a poster for a week button. Must get 10 separate posters to vote for a holiday. We could have a vote for, to get them back. It would give some posters an idea of how un/popular they really are. I think some are delusional. -That is probably me.

I don't mind the idea as there are a couple of people it would give us a well earned break from but I could see how it could be abused.

It may result also in group think (even more so) taking hold on here.

10 people may be a good number but it's probably not hard to find 10 irrational and/or petty people either.

[stuie 7,374]

Hey mods, can we have a vote out a poster for a week button. Must get 10 separate posters to vote for a holiday. We could have a vote for, to get them back. It would give some posters an idea of how un/popular they really are. I think some are delusional. -That is probably me.

But isn't it a discussion board? Why should "popularity" even matter?

[Trisul 640]

I'm just happy the king of peanuts Rhino Richards is gone.

I've been missing Rhino lately.

[daisycutter 28,607]

must say about saty that i could see both sides of the coin

i just preferred to take the good and ignore the bad. not that hard.

he certainly provided food for thought on training and went to a fair degree of effort both to attend and document

upto a point i also enjoyed his jousting with certain posters....very entertaining at times, with neither side exactly covering themselves in glory

what i don't understand is all the regurgitating especially about a fellow demonlander and dees supporter when he's not here to defend himself

move on "lemonsuckers" as saty would say

[Moonshadow 16,275]

I only liked Saty's training reports when he posted who was there and described what actual drills, etc were happening. The rest was rubbish.

But good on him for attending and flying the flag

Edited November 6, 2015 by Moonshadow

[H_T 2,941]

Hey mods, can we have a vote out a poster for a week button. Must get 10 separate posters to vote for a holiday. We could have a vote for, to get them back. It would give some posters an idea of how un/popular they really are. I think some are delusional. -That is probably me.

How about voting for them by putting them on ignore, ManDee? Would solve a lot of confrontation, bickering and moderating.

[nutbean 8,837]

How about voting for them by putting them on ignore, ManDee? Would solve a lot of confrontation, bickering and moderating.

What did Mandee post ? I couldn't see it as I have him on ignore.

(I jest)

Edited November 6, 2015 by nutbean

[beelzebub 22,230]

how about we just close this thread

[H_T 2,941]

I think someone posted before BB, after me, but I won't be able to read it unless quoted.

(kidding nutbean)

[beelzebub 22,230]

I think someone posted before BB, after me, but I won't be able to read it unless quoted.

(kidding nutbean)

why are you whispering ?

[daisycutter 28,607]

I think someone posted before BB, after me, but I won't be able to read it unless quoted.

(kidding nutbean)

is this the post?

[ManDee 7,091]

How about voting for them by putting them on ignore, ManDee? Would solve a lot of confrontation, bickering and moderating.

You still see quoted posts I believe.

So someone will have to quote me so that I can insult nutbean old chap.

[H_T 2,941]

You still see quoted posts I believe.

So someone will have to quote me so that I can insult nutbean old chap.

True, but only when they're quoted by others you read.

Sorry nb.

[John Crow Batty 8,266]

how about we just close this thread

Not yet, still a while before the draft. Let the group flagellation continue. Cleansing for the soul.

Edited November 6, 2015 by america de cali

[Lucifers Hero 37,174]

Not yet, still a while before the draft. Let the group flagellation continue. Cleansing for the soul.

A bit in jest there maybe adc!

Not sure of the purpose of the group flagellation when the target is blissfully unaware...Saty hasn't logged on since June!

Maybe it is easy for posters to pot someone who can't answer back. That's not very macho and can't say I care much for that type.

Methinks the comments say more about the posters than they say about Saty alias 'The Devil Inside'.