We should propose to the Suns to give them whatever we get for Howe and pick 6 for 3 and steak knives. Or no steak knives. i am convinced we need Curnow.

Barrett says it's pretty bleak.

Of course he does. He hates Melbourne. Four eyed [censored].

The only thing I really agree with from Plough is our depth - it's a concern, but bringing in 3 players in that 21-24 bracket and drafting another quality player will help us greatly in that regard.

riveting stuff, plough (with great support from purple)......made my day

Plough a Melbourne supporter, go figure. Still love Grinters adjustments.

Is this the same [censored]. Wit that destroyed the tigers for a decade , Hogan Garlett Kent and Petrecca a pretty handy forward line pluse the young lad Harmes had a great last game60 from Hoges 40 from Jeff and 30 from Kent will do us ok next year

Warrior is already talking Hoges out of contract scenarios. Saying he shouldn't sign under any circumstances until he sees the coaching management structure from 2017 onwards. Jog on, Warrior.

I can't get excited by Kennedy of Bugg.

Kennedy is a small NQR midfielder and Bugg a strong bodied defender/tagger who'd be fringe best 22.

I understand we need better depth, but all I can conclude is that this draft must be an absolute stinker.

can you get excited by not having bail, mac, etc any longer? change is healthy, same old, same old, no change is un-healthy.

Warrior is already talking Hoges out of contract scenarios. Saying he shouldn't sign under any circumstances until he sees the coaching management structure from 2017 onwards. Jog on, Warrior.

Who is warrior?

Who is warrior?

Damien Barrett (Purple Headed Warrior)

Warrior is already talking Hoges out of contract scenarios. Saying he shouldn't sign under any circumstances until he sees the coaching management structure from 2017 onwards. Jog on, Warrior.

Geeeee you'd almost think he had an agenda.... Hogan back west...nahhh !!

FL0G

Hogan 44 goals

Garlett 40 goals

Daylight..

Nathan jones 12 goals..

While its not disaster i can see where he is coming from. If a garlett or hogan goes down with injury we are screwed. Need more firepower up forward.

What more can you expect from Dumb & Dumber?

Hogan 44 goals

Garlett 40 goals

Daylight..

Nathan jones 12 goals..

While its not disaster i can see where he is coming from. If a garlett or hogan goes down with injury we are screwed. Need more firepower up forward.

Getting the ball inside 50 ten to fifteen more times a game will help a lot also.

You can have all the fire power in the world in the forward line but if the opportunities aren't there....

The GC trade has got to happen.

I can't see any positives coming out of the filth.

They can't beat what we have on the table, Kennedy does not cut it.

If we can close the GC deal and end up with Pick 3, I'd be inclined then to grab Treloar f$&k those filthy.

I know you all think Curnow, but Treloar is for the now.

The GC trade has got to happen.

I can't see any positives coming out of the filth.

They can't beat what we have on the table, Kennedy does not cut it.

If we can close the GC deal and end up with Pick 3, I'd be inclined then to grab Treloar f$&k those filthy.

I know you all think Curnow, but Treloar is for the now.

love it

doubt it

Bub - sad

I agreed with what Plough said

Our list still has massive holes. We are paying for years of rubbish incompetent drafting....

i listened to wallace's thoughts and sadly can't fault anything that he said.. feeling pretty deflated right now. and anyone that disagrees with the general sentiment of what he said is surely looking through red and blue glasses. we are looking to merely maintain ladder position, treading water.. not sure what kind of draft pick the club will look at securing to attack our weaknesses..all quite depressing really :-/

Only two months ago Wallet said our list was ahead of the saints on tac future stars. Now he says this.

i listened to wallace's thoughts and sadly can't fault anything that he said.. feeling pretty deflated right now. and anyone that disagrees with the general sentiment of what he said is surely looking through red and blue glasses. we are looking to merely maintain ladder position, treading water.. not sure what kind of draft pick the club will look at securing to attack our weaknesses..all quite depressing really :-/

Have to agree 'Rocky'. Can't say there is much to disagree about what was said.

The only thing keeping my chin up is the hope that we do something significant next week.

Hoping, hoping...hoping it isn't forlorn...

We will improve next year thru the increased experience of our young players and hopefully fewer injured players.

But atmo I can't see it being much more than maintaining our position as others will also improve.

i listened to wallace's thoughts and sadly can't fault anything that he said.. feeling pretty deflated right now. and anyone that disagrees with the general sentiment of what he said is surely looking through red and blue glasses. we are looking to merely maintain ladder position, treading water.. not sure what kind of draft pick the club will look at securing to attack our weaknesses..all quite depressing really :-/

That is such a pessimistic view. We now have some up and coming players which we did not have before. We can all list their names compared to what went before. So to think we won't improve you have to assume that all the other clubs around us on the ladder also have the same potential for improvement. I see no reason to assume that so I will not wallow in pessimism thanks.

I didn't hear it, but I'm not sure why there's such angst.

Hard to argue that our forward line hasn't been hopeless in recent years - mostly on the back of poor delivery from an ordinary midfield and poor skills off the half backline.

Thought Harmes showed some promise as a half forward and Kent will be handy if he gets his body right. I believe Petracca likes a goal as well.

Not convinced about JKH as a forward, so another small quick forward would be handy.

Ask Bewick about Petracca - that will improve your confidence that 2016 will be better.

I didn't hear it, but I'm not sure why there's such angst.

Because some dont like hearing the truth.

Nothing wrong with what plough said.

Ask Bewick about Petracca - that will improve your confidence that 2016 will be better.

Thats good. But hasn't played a game. Dont expect a Hogan like year from Trac though. Its ridiculous the amount of expectations on this kids shoulders already.