I remember the Northey era. We were tough, we scraped for every win. The club stood for something.

Who or what has done the damage?

Tanking in 2007 and the players part of that era. Its cooked us.

At least 7 goals against were from turnovers. Viv Michies having a crack, must be the only bloke with something to play for. The rest of them are collecting a pay cheque but have already clocked off according to Roos. Get some players in that actually give a [censored] about the club & have some pride in their performance. This is a disgrace.

Carlton's top players came out and set the tone and the whole team has come with them.

I can't help wondering, maybe that playing group just has some kind of rage response to former premiership coaches brought into clubs as overpaid consultants?

Hell, if Roos didn't have his reputation behind him, he'd be on the skids right now.

I started nothing. I'm just sick of seeing supporters willing to walk away from adversity. That's not how life or supporting a team works.

I think that after a decade we are in a position to walk away justifiably.

This is not adversity its rigor mortis

MFC make a serious statement

Put Jones up for a trade

This is the type of change needed.

Knowing us we would while offering to continue to pay his lucrative contract

Roosy needs to sit them down and tell every single player that they're playing for their career, we can still win, and we have to win.

put any pressure on carlton and they will cave but we just have to put that sort of effort in.

Well.

Just home from the country...phone was dead...just check scores..

What the....

How can we be this attrocious.

Fmd

Glad i wasnt able to attend this debacle

The whole fd and coaching panel....give your money back....you lot cant teach shlt !!

It looks like that is exactly what they can do B Bub!!

This will cost us at least 5000 members next year

5k, that's modest

I think that after a decade we are in a position to walk away justifiably.

I guess. You know where the door is. But we are better than this performance - something is not right at the moment but we've registered good wins this year - we need to bridge to gap between our best and our incredibly poor.

I guess. You know where the door is. But we are better than this performance - something is not right at the moment but we've registered good wins this year - we need to bridge to gap between our best and our incredibly poor.

Sorry you little punk nobody, haven't seen you here before, but who TF do you think you are trolling supporters like this

I'm not watching, but when you read through the comments, notice which type of players are the problem.

Senior players.

Garland, Howe, Grimes, N Jones, Cross, Lumumba, Dawes, Dunn, Garlett, Watts.

We have a deep-seated, cultural problem in this club, we all know it, and it comes from a bunch of insipid, awful, team-harming 'leaders' who do not lead.

We have more young talent than St Kilda, I will never back down from that argument, but their kids are able to be led by true leaders in Riewoldt, Montagna, Dempster, Fisher, Gilbert, Steven, Armitage - all aged over 25 and who never give up. Same with the Dogs - Murphy, Boyd and Morris are better leaders than the 10 MFC players I've named above, combined.

Roos' job, in part, is to motivate and lift the team, which includes identifying what is going wrong with these senior players and fixing it. He's failed to do that. Two years into his tenure and we have the same leadership and cultural problems. He didn't start the problem, a combination of Bailey and Neeld, back-to-back, did that, but he's not fixing it.

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Knowing us we would while offering to continue to pay his lucrative contract

i am serious

It has reached that point

Thrashed on the ground we used to represent

Clean slate otherwise Goodwin is a dead man walking before it starts

Sorry you little punk nobody, haven't seen you here before, but who TF do you think you are trolling supporters like this

Feck off mate I'm trying to provide a little perspective

I guess. You know where the door is. But we are better than this performance - something is not right at the moment but we've registered good wins this year - we need to bridge to gap between our best and our incredibly poor.

Ok dude i will hold out an olive branch and say sorry for going so hard at you.

I will not, however, say sorry for not assisting to pay for the junk product that is MFC. We are rubbish and deserve to die.

The only way this can get worse is if we turn things around in the second half.

It might make the scoreline look better, but it would also underline just how... something, I dunno, y'know what I mean? Whatever. F' it.

Can we make history and delist a player (howe) after the game please.

Why the hell did Jeremy howe do that?

Foxtels down, came on to get some updates all I'm reading is angry immature posters having digs at each other...

I guess. You know where the door is. But we are better than this performance - something is not right at the moment but we've registered good wins this year - we need to bridge to gap between our best and our incredibly poor.

Deelusional.

I turned off at half time, but holy crap could Grimes and Howe play any worse?

Pay the first free kick (Howe in the back) instead of giving them their 4th (?) from free kicks.

By the way, we are now down by 53 points...

Memberships cant fix what we have become.

Watts LOL!!

Watt was that Jack.