Well with the demonland crowd he needs to play about 4 times better than Hogan to get the same amount of credit

It's because too many on this site are obsessed with stats. Thankfully Roos isn't and he can see the contribution from players for what it is. We've had numerous players have a small impact on the stats sheet but then have a massive impact on so many other aspects of the game.

Just read the the game day threads - how many people pipe up with comments on who hasn't touched the ball enough? I know last game h_h, who probably wasn't even watching the game, kept rabbiting on about how Howe had no disposals to half time. Yet his ability to bring the ball to ground directly contributed to three goals we kicked in the first half. But because that's not on the stats sheet many think he is having a poor game and that he is 'already gone' at the end of the year.

Perspective isn't a word put into practice around here these days and it's a damn shame.

Who's that show off?

Neal.

Well with the demonland crowd he needs to play about 4 times better than Hogan to get the same amount of credit

Not for me, if we win and he contributes then he has played his role.

If we lose and WC run the ball easily out of defence then it will be that we didn't get our match ups right. Things would be a lot easier if Dawes could play a role in the ruck.

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Well with the demonland crowd he needs to play about 4 times better than Hogan to get the same amount of credit

A goal from him once in a blue moon would be handy.. Just saying

Well with the demonland crowd he needs to play about 4 times better than Hogan to get the same amount of credit

No, not at all. Dawes will receive credit when he is deserving, just as he did after the Adelaide game last year. But he hasn't produced anything near that level this year.

Neal.

But if he were doing that on dry autumn leaves he would be Russell.

A goal from him once in a blue moon would be handy.. Just saying

but we kicked 18 last week and he was part of the reason we did so

Big opportunity for Gawn. Can match Nic Nat in hit outs (or at least not get embarrassed). But the biggest criticism of Nic Nat is his ability, or lack there of, to take marks especially contested.

Get on your bike big Gawny and get those dukes out

Funnily enough, it's also one of the two main criticisms people have of Gawn too.

Great to see Stretch and ANB hold their places. Probably a bit ahead of time due to injuries, but it can only benefit their development.

Both worthy of it too. They contributed very nicely to the Geelong win.

but we kicked 18 last week and he was part of the reason we did so

And we can become an even better side if he started kicking goals. He was good in patches but is it too much to as from a premiership CHF that we have paid 500k a year to actually start hitting the scoreboard..?? What he does off the ball is great but when your a big forward target you are also expected to kick goals. 3 goals from 6 games is simply not good enough.

There are no excuses this week considering WC depleted backline.

gee what a surprise Dawes wasn't dropped was he haters

Should still be a late out,

We are way too tall and he cant do back up ruck duties.

I'm his harshest critic, but Dawes did contribute in Geelong and played his best game all year.

Not unhappy with the line up but we may well be regretting playing the talls come 10pm Saturday.

And we can become an even better side if he started kicking goals. He was good in patches but is it too much to as from a premiership CHF that we have paid 500k a year to actually start hitting the scoreboard..?? What he does off the ball is great but when your a big forward target you are also expected to kick goals. 3 goals from 6 games is simply not good enough.

There are no excuses this week considering WC depleted backline.

Not necessarily. Dawes is more dangerous by hand than by foot at the moment

2 weeks ago was the start of something great. Melbourne by 30 points.

Only thing working in our favour is the Eagles have never been to Darwin. Expecting us to play a really good 1-2 quarters, drop off and lose by 15-20 points. Who knows though. Interested to see if we really attack West Coast or go back to conservation mode. Can't wait to watch this with some other supporters, and I hope there's a fair few with the means to make the trip too.

We will miss Lumumba, ... another damn injury. ughhhh

We will miss Lumumba, ... another damn injury. ughhhh

People have criticised his usage, but we need the run and dare off half back. Garland is more of a marking, spoiling, conservative type.

Dont like Garland for Lumumba

Garland gives us no run and thinks like a sloth.

IMO

Bad choice i Igree with others on here Garlands' stop and prop and slow thinking is a huge part of the problem. We are better without him. Harry at least takes the game on and can defend

The ins/outs might show Garland replacing Lumumba.

But from the list it looks like Toumpas is the on-field replacement and will have the 'run and carry' role.

He runs well, is developing poise and in the St K game showed he has a good defensive game.

Expecting Jimmy's role to be like Salem's early in the year, when Lumumba was in the midfield.

Looks ok to me.

And we can become an even better side if he started kicking goals. He was good in patches but is it too much to as from a premiership CHF that we have paid 500k a year to actually start hitting the scoreboard..?? What he does off the ball is great but when your a big forward target you are also expected to kick goals. 3 goals from 6 games is simply not good enough.

There are no excuses this week considering WC depleted backline.

The reality is that Dawes' role is going to involve creating goals for others more and more. He is a competitor that you can kick it to and know he is not going to get beaten very often. Hogan owns that forward line now, Garlett is so effective and Howe is impossible to match up against - these are the blokes that are going to kick us a winning score.

I'm always happy when Dawes is in the side. Unfortunately a lot of what he does is unheralded....omg breaking news phil Walsh Adelaide,coach has been murdered

I'm always happy when Dawes is in the side. Unfortunately a lot of what he does is unheralded....omg breaking news phil Walsh Adelaide,coach has been murdered

Wow, just saw that. That's absolutely heartbreaking.

It's because too many on this site are obsessed with stats. Thankfully Roos isn't and he can see the contribution from players for what it is. We've had numerous players have a small impact on the stats sheet but then have a massive impact on so many other aspects of the game.

Just read the the game day threads - how many people pipe up with comments on who hasn't touched the ball enough? I know last game h_h, who probably wasn't even watching the game, kept rabbiting on about how Howe had no disposals to half time. Yet his ability to bring the ball to ground directly contributed to three goals we kicked in the first half. But because that's not on the stats sheet many think he is having a poor game and that he is 'already gone' at the end of the year.

Perspective isn't a word put into practice around here these days and it's a damn shame.

Can you please elaborate for the uneducated how he is impacting games? As I've said before the whole leadership/clubman line is wearing thin. Is it the fact he's a great public speaker like Grimes? Is it his forward pressure laying a massive 2 tackles against the Cats? Is it his decoy running? Let's not forget what he's costing us. As has already been mentioned, we can become better rather than remain content with mediocre performances from someone on top dollar.

I wonder how Bernie's headspace is at the moment?

I wonder how Bernie's headspace is at the moment?

If you're talking Phil Walsh, Bernie didn't play under him but he would still be feeling for his Adelaide mates.

I wonder how Bernie's headspace is at the moment?

While Walsh wasn't a coach of his, he'd probably be shattered for his former club and team mates.

I wonder how Bernie's headspace is at the moment?

I don't think he was at the Crows when bernie was there but he will no doubt feel for everyone there.....