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Hogan,

while he still has value.

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    Hogan,

    while he still has value.

    And throw in this years first round pick before we know who it is while they still have their full value.

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    Never good to make life-changing decisions based on emotion. Whether Danger stays or goes I doubt it will be based on the events of the last month

    No harm in just signing a simple 1 or 2 year contract extension with Adelaide and delay his free agency. It gives him a chance to just put it out of his head, focus on footy and see where the chips fall for both clubs in 12 months time.

    If he waits, I think he'll find Geelong fall in a heap and Adelaide actually contend within a year or two.

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    When I was referring to the environment I meant the club. Collingwood spend millions in their football department and have invested heavily in Cloke most recently hiring a sports psychologist. We've all seen the results. You can either kick or you can't.

    Not exactly. Cloke can't, and he can once a season, sadly against us.

    Same with unco Joe Dahiher.

    Wouldn't it be all so much easier if we could get our hands on the all knowing file that grades all players A through to F, would make recruiting so much easier.

    especially if one knew it two years in advance

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    If Geelong don't get Danger, it leaves them cap space to go after another gun mid. Maybe Prestia and/or Treloar.

    We'll have better picks to trade for Prestia or Treloar than Geelong, plus Prestia will play for us or stay at gc.

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    Patty's manager Paul Connors flew into Adelaide today. He'll be meeting with Patrick either tonight or tomorrow.

    Make of that what you will but the timing is hard to ignore, to say the least.

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    Would be great but what odds are you giving?

    not much Al's, although I think I'd rather ollie to patrick. still cannot get the idea of danger in navy blue, out of my head... just the way they, the carpet cardboard baggers operate, they're MO is one of scooping from deep down & taking all buy surprise

    wats the chances danger at the blues, with aish at the crows & yarran in QLD, with some rounding out?

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    I can see where se dee luded is coming from regarding trading Gawn.

    He is out of contract and with his current form could hold us to ransom which could cripple our chances to secure more miss. We have Spencer Jamar and Pederson who can all ruck still on our list and I am sure they would al fill the void fine if Gawn is traded

    all clubs are desperate to improve, & the power clubs whom are down on knees, are more desperate than a cornered rat.

    they will pay handsomely to improve in chronic weal areas to show improvement, to themselves (the coaches), & their supporter base, before they turn ferral.

    Maxxy has some value now; as he's improving but his ability ceiling is as big a question mark, as his weight over his knees is. some clubs would willingly shellout to fill their weak ruck brigade.

    the Blues would have a few players we could use in our list, & some Roosy & Co get get into the heads of to get them playing top-line footy. we're no slouches in ruck just not in the best 4, or 5... but we do Ok.

    ..... our weakness is quality runners with speed, & skills, & ability, in equal measure. and also another Key Marking Forward... carlton have a few players that fill the player types.... & their rucks have been plaid.

    look to the Cats, they are after what we want. the Cats have a young Ruck I'd like us to talk to, Nathan Vardy, who we could turn into that follower type.

    the Lions & Giants have some who want to go home or to Melbourne? we could deal here; & the Suns as well, but I'd be wary of the suns if what we hear is rampant Prestia will know who is OK. We must get Prestia... & a chat in ollies shell like as well, to keep him in the Goody's books.

    to me, I just reckon that even if Maxy hits his straps big time, the candle will only burn for a short time. I reckon we may only get 4 good years.

    shop what you've got stock of. it'll take us 7 - 10 years to get into top 3... maybe 4 - 5 years to get near top 6. unless we take our chances & trade for needs.

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    What's going to happen with Grimes at the end of the season? One year left to run on his contract, but doesn't seem to be getting much of a look-in at the moment. Should we trade him or hang on to him, and if we trade him, what is he worth?

    I really hope that he succeeds regardless of where he's playing next year. He's done a lot for this club that has hurt him as a footballer and he is just another product of the poor development that has plagued Melbourne.

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    I can see where se dee luded is coming from regarding trading Gawn.

    He is out of contract and with his current form could hold us to ransom which could cripple our chances to secure more miss. We have Spencer Jamar and Pederson who can all ruck still on our list and I am sure they would al fill the void fine if Gawn is traded

    Yes we've secured a lot of "miss" in the past. We've picked Watts and missed Natanui, picked Toumpas and missed Wines, etc, etc.
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    If Geelong don't get Danger, it leaves them cap space to go after another gun mid. Maybe Prestia and/or Treloar.

    Neither of which are FAs.

    And why would they want to go to a team on the slide, that has to give up some of their precious few assets just to get you?

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    Yes we've secured a lot of "miss" in the past. We've picked Watts and missed Natanui, picked Toumpas and missed Wines, etc, etc.

    What do you mean picked Watts and missed Natanui. Watts is starting to understand what he can do. Natanui is a show pony. Watts will be match more damaging.

    Also to this date, they both have showed their potential and also have showed how bad they can be equally.

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    is Nathan Foley worth adding some depth, at the expense of a bail & a mckenzie?

    No...He's been lucky to get on the park. Spent a lot of his career injured.

    What do you mean picked Watts and missed Natanui. Watts is starting to understand what he can do. Natanui is a show pony. Watts will be match more damaging.

    Also to this date, they both have showed their potential and also have showed how bad they can be equally.

    Whilst I think Watts is playing good footy now I don't think you can just write of NicNat as a show pony. He's a critical part of WC improvement this year.

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    If geelong dont get danger i think they will get scott selwood and leuenberger

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    I've been really amazed by Nic Nat's improvement this year.

    I've been a naysayer for a long time - doesn't take marks, doesn't influence play - but he's really starting to show a lot more than that.

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    If geelong dont get danger i think they will get scott selwood and leuenberger

    They expect to get both Danger & Selwood.

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    IMO none of that list FT

    We have been the Super Top Up spot too often in the past.

    I think picking up a player like Kelly would give us an extra win (and a little less whinge from you old dee).

    Honestly, for all that I have a lot of respect for that group of players, I don't think any of them are suited to the 'end-of-career consulting contract' we'd be taking them for.

    Cross clearly had time left in the game and the Dogs made a bad mistake dumping him, almost as bad as our own club's decision to toss James McDonald. We got lucky, got him cheap, and he has been everything we hoped for.

    We should be looking to add players at the free agency age or approaching it, who match our deficiencies. My own thinking is that players like Isaac Smith, Stephen Hill, even the currently out of form but 100% [unknown substance] free Zaharakis, are all at the right age and would each be a valuable addition of speed and 'threat' to our midfield.

    The thing is these players would all command a first round pick plus 6% of the salary cap.

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    I've been really amazed by Nic Nat's improvement this year.

    I've been a naysayer for a long time - doesn't take marks, doesn't influence play - but he's really starting to show a lot more than that.

    Nik Nat destroyed us. He's not just a show pony.

    Have to agree with this sentiment. He really ravaged us at times when we played them.

    I used to be of the same opinion, that he was all flash and no substance in the way he plays. But now I'm convinced he has become a good ruckman.

    Ironically, the furore has died down now that he has become more consistent.

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    What's going to happen with Grimes at the end of the season? One year left to run on his contract, but doesn't seem to be getting much of a look-in at the moment. Should we trade him or hang on to him, and if we trade him, what is he worth?

    I really hope that he succeeds regardless of where he's playing next year. He's done a lot for this club that has hurt him as a footballer and he is just another product of the poor development that has plagued Melbourne.

    whilst my loyalty side doesn't want him to leave, & his family, he may need fresh pastures, to reignite & freshen his mind, to get out of ruts established way back.

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    Have to agree with this sentiment. He really ravaged us at times when we played them.

    I used to be of the same opinion, that he was all flash and no substance in the way he plays. But now I'm convinced he has become a good ruckman.

    Ironically, the furore has died down now that he has become more consistent.

    He still takes very few marks, not many kicks or handballs. Averaging just over one mark per game and 12 disp this year. Good tap ruck though, good pressure work.

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    He still takes very few marks, not many kicks or handballs. Averaging just over one mark per game and 12 disp this year. Good tap ruck though, good pressure work.

    What would you know Moonie?

    You are still reeling from the capsicum spray on Saturday as you tried to stop true patriots from having their say.

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    Nik Nat destroyed us. He's not just a show pony.

    Nik Nat destroyed us with 5 kicks and 4 handballs! Wow, they must have been classy possessions.

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