Delistings/trades at end of the season

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,510]

Dawes is not on $700k, please show me where they got that figure from if you are going to throw it out there.

He is rumoured to be on around $500k.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dawes-now-a-2-million-demon-20121016-27pmn.html

I did say speculative. 500k is still too much.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,510]

Dawes is not on $700k, please show me where they got that figure from if you are going to throw it out there.

He is rumoured to be on around $500k.

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/dawes-now-a-2-million-demon-20121016-27pmn.html

Where the hell is all the money going then? Considering we have the same cap as the Hawks.

[olisik 4,060]

How much is Frawley on? If we can get Garland to demand that price we could score Band 1 compo.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

Where the hell is all the money going then? Considering we have the same cap as the Hawks.

We have probably front loaded many of the contracts to fill the cap. Then over the next few years when we are paying them less we have more cap room.

If Dawes was on 2 million over 4 years what we need to remember is that he isn't necessarily paid 500k every year - it might be 800k one year, 300k in the next and so forth. It just needs to add up to 2 million at the end of it.

[rpfc 29,044]

I did say speculative. 500k is still too much.

Where the hell is all the money going then? Considering we have the same cap as the Hawks.

Gotta pay somebody.

Literally, we HAVE to pay 95% of the ~$9.3m cap. That is how it is set up so that there are no more Fitzroys that just survive year to year paying two-thirds of what other teams pay.

And as others have said - we frontloaded contracts under Schwab and that would be the only way we could do reach near 100% in 2015. So I assume we are doing that.

None of this means that we have no cap to use in 2016 - only that we are paying near 100% in 2016.

[Machsy 2,858]

$500k in afl terms ain't that much these days

[whatwhat say what 23,895]

no, it really isn't.

when hogan comes out of contract, the new cba will have been arranged - the aflpa is trying to get it tied to revenue in the game, around the 25% mark.

hogan could easily pull in $1m a season in his third contract, and wouldn't even be that extravagant.

i wonder what the tipping point is going to be for the afl to really become a different sort of business.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Remember all the conjecture last year and then we get Frost out of nowhere?

The year before that, we get our compo pick and no one had any idea who we'll get, and then in comes Vince?

I have absolutely no doubt that this'll happen again. Someone who's not on any other club's radar but Roos has it all sussed out. He's a crafty one.

I'll brace myself for the pleasant surprise :D

[Adam The God 30,768]

I'd be throwing $750k at Dixon and offering Jesse $1m at the start of 2016, but that's just me.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Remember all the conjecture last year and then we get Frost out of nowhere?

The year before that, we get our compo pick and no one had any idea who we'll get, and then in comes Vince?

I have absolutely no doubt that this'll happen again. Someone who's not on any other club's radar but Roos has it all sussed out. He's a crafty one.

I'll brace myself for the pleasant surprise :D

Yup, this post nails it for me. good job you.

[spirit of norm smith 16,681]

Josh Kelly and pick 46 (3rd round pick) to Demons

Pick 5 to GWS

any backers !!!

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Josh Kelly and pick 46 (3rd round pick) to Demons

Pick 5 to GWS

any backers !!!

no thanks.

[Bombay Airconditioning 6,510]

Gotta pay somebody.

Literally, we HAVE to pay 95% of the ~$9.3m cap. That is how it is set up so that there are no more Fitzroys that just survive year to year paying two-thirds of what other teams pay.

And as others have said - we frontloaded contracts under Schwab and that would be the only way we could do reach near 100% in 2015. So I assume we are doing that.

None of this means that we have no cap to use in 2016 - only that we are paying near 100% in 2016.

Well it is what it is. The last two trade/draft periods have been favourable for us for obvious reasons. We can assume that realistic contracts have matched those list management decisions.

[demoniac 1,337]

I continually say it but I already think WBD have absolutely shafted themselves with the Boyd deal.

But can they win a granny without a genuine key forward?

There are risks involved so it was a gutsy deal for the Bullies but if he lives up to his potential then it will have been worth it. One variable will be the next media rights deal. If there is a substantial increase as per new overseas tv rights then the back end years of the deal may take up a smaller % of the cap than currently anticipated.

And back to my first point. A quality key forward helps you win the Granny. Players want to win the Premiership. The Bullies having Boyd gives them a much better story to sell their own players and potential recruits. Loot at the NBA where the destination clubs are now the ones offering players a realistic chance at a title.

[Matt Demon 1,597]

Josh Kelly and pick 46 (3rd round pick) to Demons

Pick 5 to GWS

any backers !!!

I'd love Josh Kelly! Maybe try work Jeremy Howe into a deal.

[CBDees 3,167]

I'd love Josh Kelly! Maybe try work Jeremy Howe into a deal.

That would make 5 players from Brighton Grammar (Kelly, Watts, Dawes, Salem and Hunt)! Maybe we might win a Premiership in the Old Boys?

[Ron Burgundy 8,588]

Josh Kelly and pick 46 (3rd round pick) to Demons

Pick 5 to GWS

any backers !!!

Won't happen.

[Machsy 2,858]

I heard Mark Robinson saying that Prestia might be angling for a move away from GC, and that with a year on his contract he may even use the "unsafe workplace" argument in relation to the club drug culture.

No destinations were specified, but I bet his family would be angling pretty hard to get him to MFC.

My biggest worry is list balance. We simply can't have too many small mids.

Hopefully Tyson, Vanders, Petracca & Brayshaw provide enough size.

[whatwhat say what 23,895]

we need players who can see ball, get ball, use ball.

if if he can get over his knee injury without any major concerns - and it's a big IF at this stage, as apparently it was a pretty nasty one - then we'd be mad not to chase prestia.

in terms of targetting players from the northern clubs, prestia and treloar would be top tier, dixon, bennell and josh kelly next, and then the likes of plowman (richmond want him), tomlinson, leuenberger (again, tigers into him in a big way apparently), lonergan, et al.

[rjay 25,434]

I heard Mark Robinson saying that Prestia might be angling for a move away from GC, and that with a year on his contract he may even use the "unsafe workplace" argument in relation to the club drug culture.

No destinations were specified, but I bet his family would be angling pretty hard to get him to MFC.

My biggest worry is list balance. We simply can't have too many small mids.

Hopefully Tyson, Vanders, Petracca & Brayshaw provide enough size.

Mine too 'Machsy'.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,468]

In addition to Gold Coast, I reckon Essendon players may be ripe for the picking and they will probably want draft picks while going through a rebuild.

Obviously some of them you wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole due to impending WADA sanctions but I reckon we should have a crack at Zaharakis.

Is quick, can win the ball and can kick goals. If someone like Prestia/Treloar is out of the question I wouldn't mind going after Zaharakis - surely someone like him would want out of that place.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

In addition to Gold Coast, I reckon Essendon players may be ripe for the picking and they will probably want draft picks while going through a rebuild.

Obviously some of them you wouldn't touch with a 10-foot pole due to impending WADA sanctions but I reckon we should have a crack at Zaharakis.

Is quick, can win the ball and can kick goals. If someone like Prestia/Treloar is out of the question I wouldn't mind going after Zaharakis - surely someone like him would want out of that place.

Until WADA is out of the picture, a big NO THANKS to any Bombers. Can't carry them if a two year ban is brought down.

[whatwhat say what 23,895]

zaharakis doesn't have any such threat over his head, as he's not one of the 34. from memory, neither is zach merrett, but there's no way the bombers will give him up.

zaka would be a fine addition to our side, but bombers, as is their wont, would demand hogan, brayshaw and some magic beans for him, and then go off in a huff when we declared that price was a bit steep.

our second rounder (18-25ish) would be what you'd want to pay.

[Moonshadow 17,678]

zaharakis doesn't have any such threat over his head, as he's not one of the 34. from memory, neither is zach merrett, but there's no way the bombers will give him up.

Good point. I'd forgotten about that

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

Dealing with Essendon is always like pulling teeth at the best of times.I say let them whither on the vine and see if we can get a good (non druggie) player in the aftermath.