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This from Wayne Carey this morning:

When Hogan was lining up for one of his three goals against the Doggies last week, rival skipper Robert Murphy was apparently doing his best to put him off by screaming "You can't miss this, you're Melbourne's great white hope".

Indeed, in his 16th season, Murphy probably had every reason to believe that sledging a first-year player might work. Which is why Hogan's response, after kicking the goal, is truly priceless. "And there's your great white hope," he retorted, pointing to Tom Boyd, who was sitting on the Dogs' bench at the time.

The greatest thing I have ever read LOL

Hogan is the MAN

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Gotta say, I find Careys journalism refreshing. Seems to rate a lot of our list highly and always defends them when due.

That said if something negative is deserving he also doesn't shy away from saying it as it is.

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Personally I'm not fussed if Hogan kicks a bag or not.

If he has 21 possession, 9 marks, 8 score involvements and 2-3 goal games every week I'll be ecstatic.

The ideal would be a triple-double - 20+ possessions, 10+ marks, 10+ score involvements.

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Gotta say, I find Careys journalism refreshing. Seems to rate a lot of our list highly and always defends them when due.

That said if something negative is deserving he also doesn't shy away from saying it as it is.

Carey is actually my favourite person in the media. He isn't influenced by everyone else like so many in the media but actually says what he believes rather than conforming to the norm. Not afraid to give anybody a bit of a serve but also gives credit when it's due. It's pretty encouraging when you hear his speak of Hogan, he is one of his biggest fans. For Hogan there is no better endorsement than from the greatest player to ever play the game (In saying that, another of the greatest in Leigh Matthews obviously was making comments without understanding Hogan's game).

Hogan is so damn impressive because he along with Jeffy are the ones that the opposition are trying to stop, and with the exception of the Fremantle game, he has still managed to have an influence every game. Just knows how and when to impose himself through work rate and sheer aggression. He doesn't have senior forwards to hide behind but rather than shy away I think he relished the opportunity. He wants to be the man.

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Carey very kindly neglected to mention that Boyd was wearing the red vest at the time, with only 1 disposal next to his name.

Will be ok, Boyd, but I stand by what I posted pre-draft, that he was massive and beating up on kids who couldn't compete with his reach, without doing anything particularly impressive.

He has some good attributes, but he doesn't have "it."

Jesse has "it."

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Agreed machsy, it's far more difficult to rate young key position players because often they have a huge physical advantage over the kids they're playing on,

Jesse did it against men at casey

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It's definitely imminent. I can feel it too.

Won't be too disappointed if it happens on the QB weekend when I'll be present. First time at the MCG since 2008. Can't wait.

I've got a feeling he'll relish the big stage.

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Carey very kindly neglected to mention that Boyd was wearing the red vest at the time, with only 1 disposal next to his name.

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Actually without making that clear, the impact of Hogan's remark is pretty much lost on those who were not aware.

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anyone else think that Hogan will feel queens birthday is a big stage for him and he will be pumped for it. No pressure on him and its totally the opposite for when Watts debuted, but Jesse has this presence about him and I just feel he'd love the big crowd and atmosphere and would want to perform. I cannot wait.

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1 goal. 9 disposals 5 marks

Obvioisly had a quiet game today, not through a lack of effort but just didnt bounce his way today, expecting a big game next week against lesser oponents.

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1 goal. 9 disposals 5 marks

Obvioisly had a quiet game today, not through a lack of effort but just didnt bounce his way today, expecting a big game next week against lesser oponents.

He would have scored more if he wasn't forced to play up the ground for so much of the match. The shot for goal from the 50 metre line unfortunately tested him, especially when (after his overly-long run up) he din't have enough energy left to roost it. Edited by CBDees

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It's funny, that was probably his worse game, I think Frost beat him one on one, and it was killing him. But he was far from our worst, still competed well, had a few score involvements, for such a young player, even when down he contributes.

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We struggled to bring him into the game. Amazing how this week, when we actually match the opposition through the midfield and with i50's, that we struggle to convert these to shots on goal.

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We struggled to bring him into the game. Amazing how this week, when we actually match the opposition through the midfield and with i50's, that we struggle to convert these to shots on goal.

He was outnumbered or in the wrong position in nearly every marking attempt. Couldn't decide how much of this was was due to Hogan, his opponent or the ball being delivered to the wrong spot.

Good chance it was a combination.

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Frost continually worked him under the ball and he wasn't able to counter. It wasn't helped by us continually bombing the ball on top of him instead of putting it out in front. He'll learn, he'll get better.

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I reckon he learns more from bad games than good games to be honest.

It's good experience for him to play in big games, and have a struggle with his opponent.

At this stage of his career every game is a good game. We put a lot of pressure on him, but realistically he is still traveling better than most KPFs his age have historically.

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All year he's been caught under the ball but has done a good job of making a contest and in many cases still taking the mark. Yesterday Frost read him very well and simply didn't let Hogan get a sniff in a marking contest. He needs to learn how to break off from an opponent into space because he's struggled with that all year. But his effort up until mid-way through the third was good. At that point he dropped off. Soundly beaten but still a competitor. All we can ask, really.

Frost worked really hard in that regard. Gotta hand it to him. He out muscled Hogan from the start.

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It's a credit to him that he has lifted the expectation in ten games to the point where being beaten is an aberration...

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Did he see it lace out at all yesterday.

Maybe once.

That said, Frost played him very well.

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