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2 hours ago, Dr.D said:

pedo was in AA form when gawn went down last year 

 

2 hours ago, Dr.D said:

...hogan squibbed many contests saturday night... call it what you will but his form doesnt justify selection. And his attitude is culture sapping.

Mate, this is absolute rubbish. Not one thing in the above quotes is correct. 

It is very rich for an anonymous internet poster to claim Hogan squib contests 

He is 2nd in the Coleman and his team mates are in awe of him.

Pedo in AA form! Now I've heard it all.

 

Anyone know when/If hogan has started talks on an extension yet? Surely we’d like that locked away before next year 

1 hour ago, Moonshadow said:

 

Mate, this is absolute rubbish. Not one thing in the above quotes is correct. 

It is very rich for an anonymous internet poster to claim Hogan squib contests 

He is 2nd in the Coleman and his team mates are in awe of him.

Pedo in AA form! Now I've heard it all.

Pedo played his best football when Gawn went down without a doubt. AA form well...... some poetic licence there I am sure....

 

I think people tend to forget the importance of Hogan's presence. Even when he's not playing well he still demands the oppositions best key back or even two. This allows Mcdonald the freedom to lead into other open spaces and gives small forwards the opportunity to be proactive knowing Jess is more likely to try to bring the ball to ground when he has two opponents. I don't mind if Jesse is having an off day not marking or finding the football as long as he makes a strong contest in the air and applies pressure around the ball in forward half thats all you can ask of him when he's not at his best.

I know Jess has been down on form the past two weeks but if fit I think its key to keep improving our forward structures and keep the team playing together with that predictability and trust as well as continuity in our game. I think that's really important at this time of the season.

Edited by Yung Blood

Yep, Down on form, and probably sore.......but - he draws a key defender each week, can have a run in the midfiield, and I thought his sublime hanging over the top handball to Tracc with 30 seconds to go was pretty handy!!


2 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

 

Mate, this is absolute rubbish. Not one thing in the above quotes is correct. 

It is very rich for an anonymous internet poster to claim Hogan squib contests 

He is 2nd in the Coleman and his team mates are in awe of him.

Pedo in AA form! Now I've heard it all.

6th in the Coleman

4 hours ago, ProDee said:

Why Lie ?

He started on fire against Freo and ended up with 19 disposals, 7 marks and 2 goals.  He had 5 scoring shots and should have kicked more.

The next week against Footscray he had 18 disposals, 9 marks, and 4 goals.  He was very good.

He's been poor the last 2 weeks.  But he's structurally important for the team.  If he's injured or sore he should be rested.

He has not been "very poor for at least a month" as you assert.

What about against Port? He plays well against weaker opposition and struggles and against better opposition, it’s been the case for a while.

20 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

What about against Port? He plays well against weaker opposition and struggles and against better opposition, it’s been the case for a while.

He is not alone BA.

 

Hoges did ok in that last contest against the cows which resulted in the last goal for us.


3 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

What about against Port? He plays well against weaker opposition and struggles and against better opposition, it’s been the case for a while.

The better teams are often the ones with better structures and ability to stick a plan. If we could deliver it better into the forward line our forwards wouldnt be standing under it getting smashed by 2, 3 or even 4 defenders (geelong games)

I see Hogan as a better mobile forward than full forward playing deep.

He does not jump at the ball when flatfooted and he is not a great 1 grab mark both of which limit his effectiveness as a target man for long kicks inside 50.

Skill set more suited using his endurance as a mobile high half forward.

1 hour ago, demoniac said:

I see Hogan as a better mobile forward than full forward playing deep.

He does not jump at the ball when flatfooted and he is not a great 1 grab mark both of which limit his effectiveness as a target man for long kicks inside 50.

Skill set more suited using his endurance as a mobile high half forward.

So we still need a full forward ?

4 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

What about against Port? He plays well against weaker opposition and struggles and against better opposition, it’s been the case for a while.

He wasn't great against Port, but he contributed and he has been pretty good in some other big games.  Against Port if our mids had lowered their eyes going inside 50 Hogan could have had a day out.  He's our top 3 quickest according to AFL tracker and we don't hit him up on the lead enough.  Our mids seem more comfortable kicking long to a contest and so he stays back too much.

I recently responded to a claim in another thread that Hogan was a 'flat-track bully' by pointing out that he had already played well against some of the best. So I did some research. Hogan is on track to kick 50 goals this season. The last 23 y.o. Demon to kick more than 50 in a season was David Neitz in 1996 (56), so it has been 22 years. Before that...

Allan Jakovitch 1991 (59)

Gerard Healy 1982 (77)

Mark Jackson 1981 (76)

Fred Fanning 1943 (62)

Fred Fanning 1944 (87)


7 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

I recently responded to a claim in another thread that Hogan was a 'flat-track bully' by pointing out that he had already played well against some of the best. So I did some research. Hogan is on track to kick 50 goals this season. The last 23 y.o. Demon to kick more than 50 in a season was David Neitz in 1996 (56), so it has been 22 years. Before that...

Allan Jakovitch 1991 (59)

Gerard Healy 1982 (77)

Mark Jackson 1981 (76)

Fred Fanning 1943 (62)

Fred Fanning 1944 (87)

Which thread was that? 

For me it’s not just how many goals but who they come against and the times in games when they come. 

I'm pleased to report that they came against other AFL teams and they came in all four quarters of games played... you were saying!

5 hours ago, old dee said:

He is not alone BA.

No he’s not but he does comes with a big price tag. These final 4 games plus finals should we make it will tell us a lot. 

 

1 hour ago, old dee said:

So we still need a full forward ?

TMac surely fits that bill, we should get someone else to to ruck. He is our most dangerous fwd by a long way.

10 minutes ago, waynewussell said:

I'm pleased to report that they came against other AFL teams and they came in all four quarters of games played... you were saying!

Which teams that are likely to feature in September has he dominated recently?

22 minutes ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

Which teams that are likely to feature in September has he dominated recently?

They would not listen, they're not listening still...

Perhaps they never will.


2 hours ago, demoniac said:

I see Hogan as a better mobile forward than full forward playing deep.

He does not jump at the ball when flatfooted and he is not a great 1 grab mark both of which limit his effectiveness as a target man for long kicks inside 50.

Skill set more suited using his endurance as a mobile high half forward.

Agree with this, that’s why the idea of playing him deep against the Suns in a bid to get some cheap goals and get his confidence up is stupid. No he’s not going to get dropped, but he needs to work through this in the position that he is most dangerous to the opposition and valuable to the team.

11 hours ago, jnrmac said:

Pedo played his best football when Gawn went down without a doubt. AA form well...... some poetic licence there I am sure....

Poetic licence?

I think the Poets Association would revoke a licence for a grandiose leap like that.

14 hours ago, Moonshadow said:

 

Mate, this is absolute rubbish. Not one thing in the above quotes is correct. 

It is very rich for an anonymous internet poster to claim Hogan squib contests 

He is 2nd in the Coleman and his team mates are in awe of him.

Pedo in AA form! Now I've heard it all.

When gawn was down last year pedo played 7 games at an average of 18 possessions, 5.5 marks, 18.5 hitouts when he was rucking and kicked over a goal a game.

He also polled 4 brownlow votes in 2017.  

 

and Hogan is 6th, not 2nd.

 

 

 
13 hours ago, Bombay Airconditioning said:

What about against Port? He plays well against weaker opposition and struggles and against better opposition, it’s been the case for a while.

By that reckoning, he’s due to kick 12 this week. I’ll take that!

6 hours ago, Dr.D said:

When gawn was down last year pedo played 7 games at an average of 18 possessions, 5.5 marks, 18.5 hitouts when he was rucking and kicked over a goal a game.

He also polled 4 brownlow votes in 2017.  

 

and Hogan is 6th, not 2nd.

 

 

Not AA stats mate. Wrong.

And you'll see further I acknowledged Hogan is 6th 


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