The Incredible Hulk - Jesse Hogan

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

If jesse doesn't win rising star its a joke.

Cripps is a talent no doubt but jesse has made a far bigger impact, scalps this year include a couple of all australian full backs.

It's also much harder for a key position player to make an impact early on, alot of mids are able too.

[Earl Hood 6,103]

Liam Jurrah is by far the biggest wasted talent I’ve seen in my time following footy. Such a sporting tragedy and an indictment on both him and Australia’s failure to support indigenous culture in a positive way.

Close but I will go with Jakovitch myself. Yes he did do his back but I think some hard work would have got him back on deck. He was a goal kicking freak with a poor work ethic.

[McQueen 17,867]

From today's set shots it appeared he's comfortable kicking from 45 - 50m. Outside of 50m his effort affects accuracy.

Still pretty bloody good for a 13 gamer.

[low flying Robbo 979]

Was interesting to see him lead up to Stretch (?) just before the 3 quarter time siren, and get angry when he didn't get the ball, but good to see him go and give him a high-five after he missed the shot after the siren. I think he's just a really competitive kid who wants to kick goals and win

[Skuit 10,031]

Did someone say Jurrah for a rookie spot next year?

[Adam The God 30,516]

From today's set shots it appeared he's comfortable kicking from 45 - 50m. Outside of 50m his effort affects accuracy.

Still pretty bloody good for a 13 gamer.

This, I believe, is all related to the confidence he has in his back and hamstrings. It's all linked. I have no concerns about Jesse's ability to lengthen his set shot kicking once his body is right. Until then, he's a beautiful set shot from 40-45m, on most angles.

Was interesting to see him lead up to Stretch (?) just before the 3 quarter time siren, and get angry when he didn't get the ball, but good to see him go and give him a high-five after he missed the shot after the siren. I think he's just a really competitive kid who wants to kick goals and win

ANB. I was surprised he missed it. He's been shown to be a lovely set shot.

[Gorgoroth 13,075]

How old was Jackovitch in his first 13 games?

[old dee 23,881]

Did someone say Jurrah for a rookie spot next year?

No one did

[ManDee 7,226]

How old was Jackovitch in his first 13 games?

Not sure if rhetorical but he was 23.

He kicked 11 goals in his 9th game.

[McQueen 17,867]

If jesse doesn't win rising star its a joke.

Cripps is a talent no doubt but jesse has made a far bigger impact, scalps this year include a couple of all australian full backs.

It's also much harder for a key position player to make an impact early on, alot of mids are able too.

I think the Hulk will need a few more games where he clearly dominates and kicks more than 2 or 3 goals. There's no doubting he's a rising star but I reckon the criteria will be heavily biased toward consistency. A few real eye-catching performances will help Jesse a lot.

And let's not forget about Gus, either.

[Jaded No More 68,974]

I think the Hulk will need a few more games where he clearly dominates and kicks more than 2 or 3 goals. There's no doubting he's a rising star but I reckon the criteria will be heavily biased toward consistency. A few real eye-catching performances will help Jesse a lot.

And let's not forget about Gus, either.

He consistently kicks 2 goals a game. That's as consistent as a key forward can be, let alone at his age!

He's now kicked 1 bag of 5 and 1 of 4, so he is definitely a chance.

If he has another 1 or 2 games where he kicks 4 or more, he will win the thing hands down, if the selectors know anything about footy!

[olisik 4,060]

Mitch who?

[McQueen 17,867]

He consistently kicks 2 goals a game. That's as consistent as a key forward can be, let alone at his age!

He's now kicked 1 bag of 5 and 1 of 4, so he is definitely a chance.

If he has another 1 or 2 games where he kicks 4 or more, he will win the thing hands down, if the selectors know anything about footy!

Agree with all of that however, my point was that if he remains consistent, as does Cripps, it will be the eye-catching games that get Jesse over the line.

[jnrmac 20,202]

No one did

x1000

[Dee Dee 1,127]

Not sure if rhetorical but he was 23.

He kicked 11 goals in his 9th game.

Edit: stats look like shyt - removed

Jakovitch was as lazy as!

This kid in contrast works his arse off and even took a saving mark down back yesterday.

This kid's part of a team, Jacko wasn't.

[ickey_11 145]

If jesse doesn't win rising star its a joke.

Cripps is a talent no doubt but jesse has made a far bigger impact, scalps this year include a couple of all australian full backs.

It's also much harder for a key position player to make an impact early on, alot of mids are able too.

The rising star award is a joke.

First look at the judges:

Gillon McLachlan

Mark Evans

Danny Frawley

Warren Tredrea

Glen Jakovich

Cameron Ling

Luke Darcy

Matthew Richardson

Kevin Bartlett

Kevin Sheehan

Second, how on earth did they vote Lewis Taylor over Marcus Bontempeli?

Third, a lot of past winners careers have only been serviceable, Chris Scott (I know he won premierships, but a rising star and best player of his crop?), Michael Wilson, Justin Koschitzke, Rhys Plamer, Paul Halesby & Jared Rivers.

Fourth, there are a lot of misses over the years. Not many Brownlow medalists or Coleman medalists in the honour roll; only three have won a Brownlow so far (Buckley, Goodes, and Cousins)

Fifth, the eligibility criteria is all over the shop. Some guys have been nominated twice (Jordan Gysberts and Sam Blease stand up please). Although the list of dual nominees looks almost as good as the winners list.

So in my opinion, it will be OK if Jesse does not win the award.

Edited July 20, 2015 by ickey_11

[What 18,810]

Heres the number of AFL clubs that if given the choice would prefer Patrick Cripps in their side rather than Jesse Hogan

0

[Gator 17,509]

Hogan has received votes in the AFL Coaches Association award for the 4th time, which is almost a third of the games he's played. Extraordinary for a first year key forward. And each time he's received votes from the opposition coach, not just his own.

Against Brisbane it was the first time he's received the full 10 votes to be judged BOG.

[monoccular 17,599]

Jakovitch was as lazy as!

This kid in contrast works his arse off and even took a saving mark down back yesterday.

This kid's part of a team, Jacko wasn't.

Yes sure but when on song he was incredibly exciting and entertaining

[Pates 9,661]

Hopefully he starts to get more penetration on his kicks as he develops. It's pretty much the only thing lacking from his game.

That mark in the last quarter was simply a thing of beauty.

[highroller 112]

Does everything think the not being able to kick 50+ metres will sort itself out? Like he even looks uncomfortable at times from 40-45m. I am not trying to put him down etc he is awesome but is this something that can be fixed easily?

[Ethan Tremblay 31,114]

Does everything think the not being able to kick 50+ metres will sort itself out? Like he even looks uncomfortable at times from 40-45m. I am not trying to put him down etc he is awesome but is this something that can be fixed easily?

He kicked a goal from just outside the 50. Therefore the kick was at least 55m.

I think he's sorted it out.

He had tight hamstrings a few weeks ago hence the reason he struggled kicking long.

Edited July 20, 2015 by Ethan Tremblay

[ManDee 7,226]

Does everything think the not being able to kick 50+ metres will sort itself out? Like he even looks uncomfortable at times from 40-45m. I am not trying to put him down etc he is awesome but is this something that can be fixed easily?

Decipher mode engaged.

Disengaged, couldn't be bothered.

[Pates 9,661]

Does everything think the not being able to kick 50+ metres will sort itself out? Like he even looks uncomfortable at times from 40-45m. I am not trying to put him down etc he is awesome but is this something that can be fixed easily?

I think it can be developed, get the right people around him doing a technique that will work for longer distance. Perhaps Neita could give him a few tips, or get Jonno Brown or Carey (both who seem to have man crushes on him) down to help him develop. I don't know that he can necessarily sort it out himself, but that's why you employ coaches isn't it?

[SaberFang 7,151]

It's most likely due to confidence in his body, especially after the injury concerns with his back, etc. He'd be rightly concerned about penetrating kicks and the risk it poses to his back.

As long as he stays healthy the confidence will sort itself out.