Training - Thursday 16th April, 2015

[monoccular 17,427]

Had heard he had a fracture but wanted to wait and see if he was out for sure. Apparently Cale Hooker has a similar injury but is playing on it.

maybe they found "something in the cupboard" that helped him miraculously heal

[Uncle Fester 2,848]

I'll take my chances.

[hardtack 10,537]

just watched frozen and wasted 90 minutes of my life

such is life

Why on earth did you do that?? I watched Box Trolls last night and have to say I was pleasantly surprised... very stylish and great artwork.

[whatwhat say what 22,749]

Let it go, daisy cutter, let it go.

[PaulRB 6,362]

just watched frozen and wasted 90 minutes of my life

such is life

What?!

Funniest song ever...

https://youtu.be/UFatVn1hP3o

[Red and Bluebeard 2,084]

Another training thread derailed.......

Yeah. but this is the way to derail it. More please!

[bing181 9,229]

What?!

Funniest song ever...

https://youtu.be/UFatVn1hP3o

Well, makes a change from the usual Youtube links ...

[ManDee 7,134]

I find it visually nauseating, even allowing for its age. My biggest problem with it is the pacing, its just far far too slow. Nothing interesting at all happens for massive swathes of the movie.

Now, Clockwork Orange on the other hand is also nauseating, but in a good way that I think was intentional.

Now Choke, It strikes me that you find art galleries boring, and that is fine but many of Kubricks scenes are like works of art, they fill the screen with messages creating a sensory overload that could take years to comprehend. Unlike much of modern culture Kubrick doesn't take the time to explain everything we a seeing, he allows the viewer to fill in the gaps. The first time I watched 2001 I thought the second half of the movie was boring and disconnected. Many great artworks take time to be appreciated and will never appeal to all tastes. As for training shame about Viney.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Now Choke, It strikes me that you find art galleries boring, and that is fine but many of Kubricks scenes are like works of art, they fill the screen with messages creating a sensory overload that could take years to comprehend. Unlike much of modern culture Kubrick doesn't take the time to explain everything we a seeing, he allows the viewer to fill in the gaps. The first time I watched 2001 I thought the second half of the movie was boring and disconnected. Many great artworks take time to be appreciated and will never appeal to all tastes. As for training shame about Viney.

Depends on the gallery ManDee

I guess if you're talking visually, I might agree with you. But narratively I find 2001 completely uninteresting. Plus it doesn't really explore the notion of AI evolving or becoming more. It just is. It doesn't really explore the concepts of rebirth and evolution, stuff just happens.

I'm not sure this is really requiring the viewer to fill in the gaps so much as splashing a few concepts on the screen and seeing what sticks.

A Clockwork Orange is a completely different beast. I think themes are actually explored in that movie, as opposed to 2001 which just feels like a disjointed set of partially formed ideas.

But I guess that's art, it makes people feel different things and encourages debate.

On Frozen - it's great enjoyable fluff. Love the music, love the story. It's not trying to say a whole lot. It's not trying to be more than it is.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,754]

Now Choke, It strikes me that you find art galleries boring, and that is fine but many of Kubricks scenes are like works of art, they fill the screen with messages creating a sensory overload that could take years to comprehend. Unlike much of modern culture Kubrick doesn't take the time to explain everything we a seeing, he allows the viewer to fill in the gaps. The first time I watched 2001 I thought the second half of the movie was boring and disconnected. Many great artworks take time to be appreciated and will never appeal to all tastes. As for training shame about Viney.

Not sure that the last six words of that post belong in this thread.

[hardtack 10,537]

Now Choke, It strikes me that you find art galleries boring, and that is fine but many of Kubricks scenes are like works of art, they fill the screen with messages creating a sensory overload that could take years to comprehend. Unlike much of modern culture Kubrick doesn't take the time to explain everything we a seeing, he allows the viewer to fill in the gaps. The first time I watched 2001 I thought the second half of the movie was boring and disconnected. Many great artworks take time to be appreciated and will never appeal to all tastes. As for training shame about Viney.

Barry Lyndon is one of the most well crafted films ever made... every scene has been carefully composed to resemble a work of art (as in painterly classical art). It is a stunning film. Dr Strangelove is one of the best anti-war films ever made - I saw both it and the original Fail Safe within months of each other when they first were released which really messed with my head at the time. And then we have A Clockwork Orange, Lolita (depressing) and The Shining... all brilliant films. In my opinion, the only films coming out of the UK or USA that came close to them at the time were both made by the same director Lindsay Anderson... "If" and "O Lucky Man".

Edited April 16, 2015 by hardtack

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

Barry Lyndon is one of the most well crafted films ever made... every scene has been carefully composed to resemble a work of art (as in painterly classical art). It is a stunning film. Dr Strangelove is one of the best anti-war films ever made - I saw both it and the original Fail Safe within months of each other when they first were released which really messed with my head at the time. And then we have A Clockwork Orange, Lolita (depressing) and The Shining... all brilliant films. In my opinion, the only films coming out of the UK or USA that came close to them at the time were both made by the same director Lindsay Anderson... "If" and "O Lucky Man".

I love this forum.

[ManDee 7,134]

As for A Clockwork Orange it is a veritable orgy for the senses.

[PaulRB 6,362]

Depends on the gallery ManDee

I guess if you're talking visually, I might agree with you. But narratively I find 2001 completely uninteresting. Plus it doesn't really explore the notion of AI evolving or becoming more. It just is. It doesn't really explore the concepts of rebirth and evolution, stuff just happens.

I'm not sure this is really requiring the viewer to fill in the gaps so much as splashing a few concepts on the screen and seeing what sticks.

A Clockwork Orange is a completely different beast. I think themes are actually explored in that movie, as opposed to 2001 which just feels like a disjointed set of partially formed ideas.

But I guess that's art, it makes people feel different things and encourages debate.

On Frozen - it's great enjoyable fluff. Love the music, love the story. It's not trying to say a whole lot. It's not trying to be more than it is.

2001 is amazing in the way it explores the shift from Animal consciousness to intellectual consciousness in the beginning (apes around the mysterious monolith being tamed by the music), then goes on to explore the next shift from intellectual consciousness to spiritual consciousness in the ship and posits ideas about the challenges of this if humans can take it or if AI is the way this next shift will occur. Way ahead of its time... great movie.

[Bluey's Dad 3,419]

2001 is amazing in the way it explores the shift from Animal consciousness to intellectual consciousness in the beginning (apes around the mysterious monolith being tamed by the music), then goes on to explore the next shift from intellectual consciousness to spiritual consciousness in the ship and posits ideas about the challenges of this if humans can take it or if AI is the way this next shift will occur. Way ahead of its time... great movie.

I don't think it explores that at all.

I think it TRIES to, but falls flat. As I said before, he didn't need to beat us over the head with the renaissance/rebirth metaphor. It wasn't subtle at all, it was a bludgeon. "Hey audience, check this out! Rebirth lolololol"

I guess I'm in the minority. It's possible my opinions are coloured by having watched it for the first time only recently. It didn't feel like being ahead of its time because I'd already seen those themes explored in other films and books.

I remember watching it, thinking, "Measure of a man" was a far far better exploration of AI than this. And that was a 45 minute Star Trek episode. The new Battlestar Galactica series also explored these themes in a much more fulfilling and interesting way, even if they did meander around for 2 seasons and close with a horrible ending.

The visuals again I struggle with. I find them more distracting than interesting. Again this may be because of my age and the other types of films and TV I had already been exposed to.

[daisycutter 29,613]

choke, viewing films out of their time reminded me.........

the movie that left the greatest impression on me (at the time) was the 1951 swashbuckler Horatio Hornblower. i thought it had everything.

i must have seen it in about 1953/4. I can still remember it and it became the yardstick i measured subsequent films against

i've never re-seen it as i didn't want to risk the possibility that it was a load of junk and ruin my memories

though i did read recently that it was well received by modern critics

maybe it's time to revisit it?

[hemingway 7,627]

man this "training" thread just keeps getting better. sorry junior. love some of the comments...."animal consciousness to intellectual consciousness to spiritual consciousness", serious movie buffs on board at demonland and a welcome distraction to my impending feeling of doom. i stopped my medication after the first game but going back on from today. but there is a crack in everything that's how the light gets in. thanks leonard.

[chook fowler 19,458]

Horatio Hornblower - sounds like a porn star

[Elusive Tunbridge 795]

Hornblower rated 100% on Rotten Tomatoes - directed by Raoul Walsh, a great action director. Your memory is still intact, daisy.

[ManDee 7,134]

Enter our time capsule and look at the other good movies from 1968.

Barbarella - great movie - but has not aged well

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - enough said

Once upon a time in the West - ?

Planet of the Apes - looks old now.

Bullitt - looks really dated

The Party -?

Night of the Living dead - really dated

Funny Girl - still funny but very 60's

The Love Bug - 60's kids movie

Rosemary's Baby - must re watch this.

Then watch 2001 it is magnificent by comparison. A benchmark in cinema.

[hardtack 10,537]

Horatio Hornblower - sounds like a porn star

That just reminded me of something from my dim darl past. I used to do salaries for the repat hospital at Heidelberg back in the 70's and on the list there were the following three names: Hardstaff, Kink and Kong. (I guess you had to be there).

Sorry, I just thought I would provide a distraction from the training element in this thread.

[ManDee 7,134]

That just reminded me of something from my dim darl past. I used to do salaries for the repat hospital at Heidelberg back in the 70's and on the list there were the following three names: Hardstaff, Kink and Kong. (I guess you had to be there).

Sorry, I just thought I would provide a distraction from the training element in this thread.

I had a customer whose name was Cos Sita. i asked a workmate to ring and ask for the Cos's daughter Pina. Should have seen the look on his face when he said her name.

[hardtack 10,537]

Enter our time capsule and look at the other good movies from 1968.

Barbarella - great movie - but has not aged well

Chitty Chitty Bang Bang - enough said

Once upon a time in the West - ?

Planet of the Apes - looks old now.

Bullitt - looks really dated

The Party -?

Night of the Living dead - really dated

Funny Girl - still funny but very 60's

The Love Bug - 60's kids movie

Rosemary's Baby - must re watch this.

Then watch 2001 it is magnificent by comparison. A benchmark in cinema.

Among the films that left me with enduring impressions from the 60's and 70's were:

Wages of Fear

Juliet of the Spirits

8 1/2

La Grande Bouffe

Lawrence of Arabia

Mutiny on the Bounty (Marlon Brando)

How the West Was Won

A Hard Days Night

Forbidden Planet

Day the Earth Stood Still

Earth vs the Flying Saucers

The Wild Bunch

Images & Nashville (Altman)

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I was a regular at the Trak Cinema Friday night "Supper shows" back in the early 70's... pre Valhalla, they were showing the best of the non mainstream cinema available at the time.

[nutbean 8,838]

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I was a regular at the Trak Cinema Friday night "Supper shows" back in the early 70's... pre Valhalla, they were showing the best of the non mainstream cinema available at the time.

Spooky !

I had a conversation last night about the trak cinema friday night - midnight sessions - late 70's I think - they used to run the kit carson TV show as a precursor to the film - half an hour of really bad cowboy stuff before the main event.

[hardtack 10,537]

Spooky !

I had a conversation last night about the trak cinema friday night - midnight sessions - late 70's I think - they used to run the kit carson TV show as a precursor to the film - half an hour of really bad cowboy stuff before the main event.

Yes, when I was going (1972) they ran the Commander Cody and the Lost Planet Airmen as a series - showing one episode before the main feature each week. It was fantastic.