The Rising Star Thread - Congratulations Jesse Hogan!

[Earl Hood 6,101]

Quick question. If Hogan wins the Rising Star, will this be the first silverwear (meaning any award/prize/flag/trophy) won by Melbourne for anything since Jared Rivers won the Rising Star back before the Dark Ages?

(Excluding meaningless match day trophies and the meaningful women's competition).

A couple of marks of the year (Jurrah and Howe) is all I think

[Gator 17,479]

There's a poll on AFL.com.au

Cripps is winning 46% to 44.

[pitmaster 3,580]

Would be great for Jesse or Cripps, for about five minutes, then they'd forget about it.

Who cares that a recently retired Cat once won the Rising Star in the red and blue? Really, who does care?

I regard any individual award as of little importance compared to a premiership...don't rate the Brownlow either: look at the chumps who vote for that.

[KingDingAling 3,758]

Roos give Hogan a big push last night on 360, it was good to see.

Then Robbo points out that Cripps had 14 clearances against Freo - which is also massive.

Both players would be deserving winners, but I think Hogan gets the nod due to playing a tougher position.

[Bang Bang Bang 5,839]

As Darcy and Richo said If Hogan doesn't win it a key position fwd will never win it again

They are both on the voting panel so I'm expecting Jesse to win it.

I don't really care if he wins it or not tbh. Cripps is awesome and it's not going to make him any less of a superstar if Cripps does win it.

Edited September 8, 2015 by Sylvia Saint

[praha 11,240]

This should put what Hogan has done in perspective:

2015: Hogan: 20 games- 44 goals 19 behinds

Other forwards in their 2nd season:

Wayne Carey: 21 games- 38 goals 23 behinds

Jonathan Brown: 25 games- 38 goals 22 behinds

Nick Riewoldt: 22 games- 21 goals 18 behinds

Lance Franklin: 14 games- 31 goals 9 behinds

Travis Cloke: 15 games - 6 goals 12 behinds

The best I have found in recent times is Jeremy Cameron with 62 goals 27 behinds in his 2nd season! Though they are very different players with Hogan a much better contested mark than Cameron.

You also forgot the part where Cameron gets gifted cheap goals by umpires and his teammates. I hate him so.

[Redleg 41,490]

Hogan should have received at least 3 frees close to goal on Sunday and got none. Would have put him in 47.

[rpfc 28,780]

I put $5 on him at $9 odds.

I should have shown more faith.

(sigh)

[Chris 2,892]

Hogan should have received at least 3 frees close to goal on Sunday and got none. Would have put him in 47.

Happens every week, he is either held of blocked constantly. Umps just ignore it. If it was Cloke Eddie would be going off his nana (oh wait, he did that earlier in the year didn't he)

[Gator 17,479]

Would be great for Jesse or Cripps, for about five minutes, then they'd forget about it.

Who cares that a recently retired Cat once won the Rising Star in the red and blue? Really, who does care?

I regard any individual award as of little importance compared to a premiership...don't rate the Brownlow either: look at the chumps who vote for that.

People remember the great players who win it.

They may also remember Taylor or Palmer, but the truly great players receive the appropriate accolades.

[H_T 3,049]

Tipped a tie on an earlier Rising Star thread.

Sticking with my initial hunch. Interestingly the AFL has come out twice in the space of a month and said their could be a tie for the Rising Star.

Would like to see either win it. Both deserved winners IMO.

Kingy won't be able to get on thi$ year..haha

[Forest Demon 4,681]

Everytime I watched Cripps he was absolutely dominant, definitely not "dime a dozen". His stats compared to the other great midfielders of the last 10-15 years are very flattering.

But I also get the Hogan love, and what he has done is pretty remarkable. I loved his consistency, there was only one game this year where he really had an off day, and that was against the wooden spooners.

I wouldn't mind which way it went to be honest.

[wattsup 470]

I put a sneaky $50 on hogan in February at $12 I hope he wins

[Pates 9,660]

Is it possible it could be a tie? I reckon this would be the perfect year for it, two very different players, both taking on massive responsibility for their teams.

It won't be a lowing of either players colours if the other won it.

Edited September 8, 2015 by Pates

[Davos 923]

I will be genuinely baffled if Hogan doesn't win it. Maybe it's bias, but as Roosy said last night, no one has ever done what he did this year. Couple this with our inside 50 count for the year, and the delivery he was receiving as a whole and I don't really think there's a legitimate argument for Cripps over Hogan.

I understand how good Cripps has been this year and I do not deny he'd deserve the award in any other season, but give me a spell, it's Hogan every day of the week.

[Nascent 9,283]

OP updated.

The-nab-afl-rising-star-contenders

Nab-rising-star-cripps-or-hogan

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Believe tomorrow is when the winner is announced.

[DubDee 26,124]

When is it on? On Foxtel?

[Nascent 9,283]

Not sure if it has any live media coverage unfortunately, just that its on tomorrow afternoon

[Gator 17,479]

When is it on? On Foxtel?

SEN from midday tomorrow - Harford and Wallace live from Crown.

Replay on Foxfooty (504) tomorrow night at 9.30 pm.

Edited September 8, 2015 by ProDee

[DubDee 26,124]

SEN from midday tomorrow - Harford and Wallace live from Crown.

Replay on Foxfooty (504) tomorrow night at 9.30 pm.

Thanks for that.

Weird that it's replayed at night but not live.

[Samael 560]

After last years BS I am afraid that the Rising Star is completely compromised. Bontempelli should have won it by as much as Hogan should win it this year. My bet this year is a tie between Hulk and Crisp Cripps. Must admit I have no idea about Cripps but as Roos said last night Hogan has done things in his short career that NO OTHER PLAYER has ever done in their first year. Runnaway winner but not politic to give it to him so they will bow to the powers that be and give it to the two. Hope I am wrong but I can smell a compromise coming.

I always call him Crisp for some reason

Edited September 8, 2015 by Samael

[sue 9,145]

After last years BS I am afraid that the Rising Star is completely compromised. Bontempelli should have won it by as much as Hogan should win it this year. My bet this year is a tie between Hulk and Crisp. Must admit I have no idea about Crisp but as Roos said last night Hogan has done things in his short career that NO OTHER PLAYER has ever done in their first year. Runnaway winner but not politic to give it to him so they will bow to the powers that be and give it to the two. Hope I am wrong but I can smell a compromise comming.

Do the gambling firms pay out if it is a draw or do they keep the lot?

I bet the AFL are politically balancing giving some joy to the many supporters of the big bottom team vs the natural choice.

[McQueen 17,867]

For the hard core analysts amongst us who understand what real key variables are:

Hogan plays for Melbourne

Cripps plays for Carlton

Hogan by a mile.

[Lucifers Hero 40,365]

9 judges each issuing 5, 4, 3, 2, 1 across 23 players.

I don't know the probability of a tie but would think it very low.

If its a tie then I would wonder if McLachlan and Evans have been pulling strings.

[Dr. Mubutu 866]

Everytime I watched Cripps he was absolutely dominant, definitely not "dime a dozen". His stats compared to the other great midfielders of the last 10-15 years are very flattering.

But I also get the Hogan love, and what he has done is pretty remarkable. I loved his consistency, there was only one game this year where he really had an off day, and that was against the wooden spooners.

I wouldn't mind which way it went to be honest.

My thoughts exactly. Having said that, I'd still prefer to have Hogan, and I'm glad he's playing for the MFC.