The Hidden Trade Target

[Craig Smoker 15]

So ...

You don't need to be Einstein to realise that Roos and his crew have an ace up their sleeve in regarding to the recent discussion about trading Jack Trengove.

It is clear that they will be looking to on trade one or two of picks 12, 3, or 2 should this trade eventuate, given that Roos has said he doesn't want too many kids and is in need of midfield talent.

I believe they have someone already sorted. Yes, trading JT for a kid goes against what he has said in recent discussions.

So who is that player that they have targeted? Who is that Bernie Vince/Dom Tyson type import? I don't know but if I was a betting man I'd be putting money on the following:

1. D. Sheil (GWS) - trade ignited by GWS wanting to get back into the draft after losing picks for Griffen;

2. R. Sloane (AFC) - following heavy discussions with Adelaide over Danger, AFS may have offered Sloan instead knowing he is a risk to go next year as well;

3. T.Walker (AFC) - following heavy discussions with Adelaide over Danger, AFC may have offered Walker instead knowing he is a risk to go next year as well.

4. T. Mitchell (SFC) - Roos relationship.

5. Solid 2nd tier player from Port. Port may be looking for pick 12 to get Ryder.

If I was to pick one, its Sloane.

Thoughts? Anyone else on the horizon?

Cheers,

Craig

P.S First time poster, long time obsessor.

[dazzledavey36 52,693]

Hi chilliboy

[Earl Hood 6,057]

So ...

You don't need to be Einstein to realise that Roos and his crew have an ace up their sleeve in regarding to the recent discussion about trading Jack Trengove.

It is clear that they will be looking to on trade one or two of picks 12, 3, or 2 should this trade eventuate, given that Roos has said he doesn't want too many kids and is in need of midfield talent.

I believe they have someone already sorted. Yes, trading JT for a kid goes against what he has said in recent discussions.

So who is that player that they have targeted? Who is that Bernie Vince/Dom Tyson type import? I don't know but if I was a betting man I'd be putting money on the following:

1. D. Sheil (GWS) - trade ignited by GWS wanting to get back into the draft after losing picks for Griffen;

2. R. Sloane (AFC) - following heavy discussions with Adelaide over Danger, AFS may have offered Sloan instead knowing he is a risk to go next year as well;

3. T.Walker (AFC) - following heavy discussions with Adelaide over Danger, AFC may have offered Walker instead knowing he is a risk to go next year as well.

4. T. Mitchell (SFC) - Roos relationship.

5. Solid 2nd tier player from Port. Port may be looking for pick 12 to get Ryder.

If I was to pick one, its Sloane.

Thoughts? Anyone else on the horizon?

Cheers,

Craig

P.S First time poster, long time obsessor.

I would take any of them for the right price, even pay a little overs.

[DemonOX 8,692]

Craig welcome to the nut house!

I think most of these ideas are already been floated in the Trengove thread and its doin my head in cause NONE of us actually know WTF going on!

[Craig Smoker 15]

Thanks DemonOX

Who would you being putting your money on if you were to take an educated gamble?

(I have a gut feeling on another Adelaide play not Danger)

P.S This place is a nut house. I have already been called chilliboy.

[Ethan Tremblay 29,968]

Shiel isn't going anywhere so we can cross that one off.

[Adam The God 29,293]

Welcome, Craig. Love the avatar. Is that Steve?

I think we're working on a number of angles. It sounds like we're fishing with Dangerfield and Beams. I'd say we've also spoken to GWS, who are more likely to give up one of their young stars, because they have so many of these kids, many of them Victorian and are/will be looking to get back home soon. If we offer large contracts at the player and a high pick at GWS, they may well say it's better than they'd get in a year or two when some of these guys leave for nothing. I think we're in a similarly strong position for Dangerfield. Adelaide know we can offer them the best compensation. I think they'll offer him up for trade if he doesn't commit to them. That doesn't mean he'll come to us, because he's still got to agree to the trade, but I can't imagine he'll stay at Adelaide once he's a FA.

But the hidden trade target is obviously...hidden. That's why this trade week is so fascinating. There are rarely leaks from the MFC anymore, so deals are done and then we find out who we were after and not before.

[pantaloons 2,019]

I don't consider Mitchell likely in this scenario. Pick 3 by itself would be sufficient and you wouldn't have to throw away Trengove to get him.

[Tyson_Viney_Toumpas 269]

One thing for sure, I would not give up pick 2. Pick 2 would be out of bounds, they can run away with pick 3 all they like.

[Thehardtackler 785]

I thought it was going to be Coniglio that was the hidden target!

[Tyson_Viney_Toumpas 269]

Isn't Shiel a part of the "pact"............

[Craig Smoker 15]

Welcome, Craig. Love the avatar. Is that Steve?

I think we're working on a number of angles. It sounds like we're fishing with Dangerfield and Beams. I'd say we've also spoken to GWS, who are more likely to give up one of their young stars, because they have so many of these kids, many of them Victorian and are/will be looking to get back home soon. If we offer large contracts at the player and a high pick at GWS, they may well say it's better than they'd get in a year or two when some of these guys leave for nothing. I think we're in a similarly strong position for Dangerfield. Adelaide know we can offer them the best compensation. I think they'll offer him up for trade if he doesn't commit to them. That doesn't mean he'll come to us, because he's still got to agree to the trade, but I can't imagine he'll stay at Adelaide once he's a FA.

But the hidden trade target is obviously...hidden. That's why this trade week is so fascinating. There are rarely leaks from the MFC anymore, so deals are done and then we find out who we were after and not before.

Certainly is Adam, he's the best! (Steve that is)

[DemonOX 8,692]

Thanks DemonOX

Who would you being putting your money on if you were to take an educated gamble?

(I have a gut feeling on another Adelaide play not Danger)

P.S This place is a nut house. I have already been called chilliboy.

If u don't like the name chilliboy how about KABANABOY????

IMO none of the above will come off maybe not through lack of trying though.

TBH I have not idea who we are targeting cause since the new admin and coaches took over the place is tighter than a .........

Edited October 12, 2014 by DemonOX

[KingDingAling 3,737]

I think we'll keep the draft picks and take them into the draft.

We'll ask the question in regards to Beams and throw up 3, 12, but I think Beams legitimately wants to move home.

It isn't Dangerfield, neither Adelaide or Dangerfield want any part in a trade - not that Demonland pays much notice of that.

Shiel wouldn't command 3 and 12. Treloar would - but I don't expect he'll want out.

I think Treloar would be our most likely target.

But I don't think we'll land him, and I think we'll take our picks to the draft.

[DTJ 95]

One thing for sure, I would not give up pick 2. Pick 2 would be out of bounds, they can run away with pick 3 all they like.

If McCartin is going at 1 and Petracca at 2 why would it matter as we want Brayshaw at 3?

I feel it is very unlikely we'll get Shiel or Mitchell. GWS wouldn't see Petracca as > Shiel - Shiel is a performing gun that they can build a team around. Mitchell would be difficult to pry away from Sydney - all I hear is they rate him very highly and he is a big party of their future.

Sloan I feel unlikely but not out of the realms of possibility if they're into Trenners.

Tex I'm not sure on.

For mine I think it's more likely we'll pick up Toby Greene with 12 if we trade Trenners to Richmond.

Dream world would be 2,3, 12 and 23 (no way I give up Trenners and 23 for 12) for a disillusioned Tex, Sloane and Danger. ( I can dream )

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,283]

I'm picking Treloar. He is worthy of pick 3 & 12.

[Dr. Gonzo 23,678]

I woudn't have a clue but it looks like my productivity will slip again this week.

[titan_uranus 24,558]

I woudn't have a clue but it looks like my productivity will slip again this week.

Thank God for the Jehovah's Witnesses (pun(?) intended).

They've forced trade week to end on Thursday. One fewer day.

[Deez 298]

id jizz if it was sloane.

Favourite player outside of melb.

[DistrACTION Jackson 8,283]

I woudn't have a clue but it looks like my productivity will slip again this week.

LOL. I have been struggling as well Gonzo.

[kurtneverdied 204]

Not sure if he has been mentioned in other threads but how about Dean Towers? Can't say a know a lot about him but im pretty sure he is a taller mid which Roos likes. Not a superstar I know but a thought.

Edited October 12, 2014 by kurtneverdied

[thevil1 421]

My hidden trade guess is Picks 3 & 10/12 (in essence Trengove & Pick 23) for Coniglio, Greene & Frost. Win/win...... Saints take McCartin 1 (big mistake imo), us Brayshaw Pick 2, Petracca Pick 3 to GWS and they get back into the draft after trading & paying a very heavy price Griffen.

I base this on absolutely nothing btw.

And fwiw, I rate this years draft as particularly weak, the talls all grossly overrated, Moore & Heeney clear top 5'ers who aren't available where they are worth & from his 1 minute highlights package as 17 yo Calder 3rd place b&f I reckon Lever looks like a bigger Hodge potentially, really like his potential.

Edited October 12, 2014 by thevil1

[The Backyard Charizard 1,202]

I believe we are entertaining a MAJOR bid for Dangerfield.... Somewhere in the area of close to $1m a year over possibly 5 or 6... Hence the thought about trading out JT to the Toigs....

The other thing that people need to take into account when mentioning the big Texan (although by all reports he is the heart and soul of Cow Land) is that he is BFF's with our man Bernie Vince!

The Goodwin and Bernie combination cannot and SHOULD not be underestimated when speaking of luring Cows to Demonland!

[kurtneverdied 204]

My hidden trade guess is Picks 3 & 10/12 (in essence Trengove & Pick 23) for Coniglio, Greene & Frost. Win/win...... Saints take McCartin 1 (big mistake imo), us Brayshaw Pick 2, Petracca Pick 3 to GWS and they get back into the draft after trading & paying a very heavy price Griffen.

Coniglio sounds gettable. Wouldn't mind him.

[Adam The God 29,293]

I believe we are entertaining a MAJOR bid for Dangerfield.... Somewhere in the area of close to $1m a year over possibly 5 or 6... Hence the thought about trading out JT to the Toigs....

The other thing that people need to take into account when mentioning the big Texan (although by all reports he is the heart and soul of Cow Land) is that he is BFF's with our man Bernie Vince!

The Goodwin and Bernie combination cannot and SHOULD not be underestimated when speaking of luring Cows to Demonland!

True. Brown and Neeld were a vital part of luring Dawes across at the time. I can imagine us going hard after Tex next year. Get the midfielders we need this off season and come back for Tex in FA next year.

Edited October 12, 2014 by AdamFarr