When a defender is delisted from the Saints who have no defenders, it probably says something about the quality of the player I would have thought

Certainly hope not.....

He gets plenty of the ball , because opposition sides want him to have it over other defenders. They know he will turn it over more times than not.

As opposed to Turlich, TMac, Chip, Grimes, etc? Gwilt's disposal and decision making is better than their's IMO.

Whenever I am tempted to dismiss a running defender out of hand, I remind myself that Dean Terlich spent a considerable amount of time playing that role for us this year.

I mentioned Gwilt as an alternative to Lumumba in the Lumumba thread. They are the same age and have very similar stats from last year. While both have faults if you where going to pick one I'd much rather take Gwilt as a DFA than trade for HL.

Gwilt was only delisted to bring some youth into StK back 6. Richardson mentioned that with Fisher, Dempster Delaney Gilbert Geary all playing back he need make room for a younger player.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=5&pid1=1566&tid2=16&pid2=1541&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S

I mentioned Gwilt as an alternative to Lumumba in the Lumumba thread. They are the same age and have very similar stats from last year. While both have faults if you where going to pick one I'd much rather take Gwilt as a DFA than trade for HL.

Gwilt was only delisted to bring some youth into StK back 6. Richardson mentioned that with Fisher, Dempster Delaney Gilbert Geary all playing back he need make room for a younger player.

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/ft_player_compare?tid1=5&pid1=1566&tid2=16&pid2=1541&type=A&fid1=S&fid2=S

He just didn't want to explicitly say that Gwilt is complete garbage.

It seems to me that just as Roos has said any of our players are tradeable, he is prepared to talk to anyone who may be on the move. I like the idea that he is talking to anyone possibly on the move, simply because that means he is informed as can be when it comes to making actual decisions about trades and so forth.

I think folks have lost a little perspective as to how our progress will occur. It wont be one giant leap into a finals team , it will be a path via decent recycleds mixed with better drafting

i.e Not from A .....to D

but A >. B > C > D its a process not an instant cure

We are already a D bub

I think you mean we need to go from a D to an A

We are already a D bub

I think you mean we need to go from a D to an A

Perhaps from an F?

Lol these posters who say next or pass over each name as they come up. We are the laughing stock of the AFL with a terrible rebounding defence full of turn over merchants. Not saying I want Gwilt necessarily, don't know enough about him, but I fully back Roos and team to look at every possibility. If they go for Gwilt, there must be something in him that'll improve our list going forward.

Agreed. Almost ANYONE that we can get will basically improve us.

Having Gwilt and Lamumba running off the back flanks will improve us, which is what we all want. That is virtually a fact, so it would be a yes from me.

Is this the same James Gwilt who several media pundits have described as "the game has passed him by"?

Is this the same James Gwilt who several media pundits have described as "the game has passed him by"?

And are these the same media pundits who regularly get mocked on these very forums for their lack of knowledge?

Is this the same James Gwilt who several media pundits have described as "the game has passed him by"?

And that same term could be used on most of our backline, just change it to "the ball has passed them by".

Gwilt isn't so much a rebounding defender as an undersized KPB or 3rd up defender. He isn't quick and doesn't have great kicking skills. He is a decent mark and a long kick but I don't see him improving our rebound, which is what we really need.

Is this the same James Gwilt who several media pundits have described as "the game has passed him by"?

Or the same media pundits who said we'd made a collossal mistake passing up Kelly for Tyson and Salem?

We do not have the $$ and are not an attractive enough destination for A grade players, Roos at the Swans pulled together a premiership team from a lot of refuse and ordinary players. I expect him to continue to look for value in the players that are available and look for guys who play the part he wants them to play. I am sure he and the recruiting team will look at everyone, look at their stats, clips of their game style, etc to ensure they do not over look a diamond in the rough that may fit into our team. I have every confidence that they will be trying to bring in experienced players who will help lift Melbourne next year and the year after, etc....

Better then Gillies is a plus

When a defender is delisted from the Saints who have no defenders, it probably says something about the quality of the player I would have thought

we're talking St Kilda....they make very VERY odd decisions!!!

I cannot understand the fuss. I ve seen this guy play some very good footy. If it came down to it , I'd have him before Henrieeta! I wouldn't have both!!

Just pointing out that Gwilt is not gilt.

As I said in the original James Gwilt thread, I've liked him as a defender for quite a few years.

Would be very happy to acquire both of Gwilt & O'Brien to play on opposite HBFs.

From what I remember of him, took a long while to get cemented in the side but once he did was very good, especially in their best years.

Things seem to have gone backwards rapidly for him, why?

Edited September 12, 201411 yr by jabberwocky

Injuries at times, but I hear his body is ok.

I think he is being squeezed out by kids who play in his position.

Delaney, Roberton, Bruce, Shenton all play in defence.

I think it was a toss up between keeping Gwilt & Sam Fisher, with Gwilt losing.

I've watched a fair few st Kilda games as my uncle played for the saints back in the VFL back in the day. Whenever I venture down to Melbourne I usually head to a game with him, I've always liked this guy, he's just a good honest defender, can mark and makes smart decisions such as spoils, third man up. Let's be honest he's not a world better but he's better then a few getting a game now. My old man and uncle have always said, You need to not only build your senior team but also your reserves, it creates competition and keeps your good players honest at training. We'll pick him up for nothing, I'm all for it, if Roo's can turn Pedo around in one season lets hope he does that to a few more.

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Edited September 12, 201411 yr by BrisbaneDemon

Out Clisby in Gwilt via PSD. That's a win for mine if that occurs.