Goodwin's Law?

[Vanilla Gorilla 204]

I know people - it's done.

Happy to never post again if I am wrong.

Has 12 posts, says he'll never post again if wrong.

Edited September 10, 2014 by Vanilla Gorilla

[PartyBoy 173]

i know people at the club but it's hard to say it's done when he is just the first name to come up that Melbourne are meeting . I can tell you he is not the only coach we will talk too so your people are just wrong.

You really think he is the only person Melbourne has met with till now? Please....

I know this page get's filled with a lot of rumour and BS and perhaps there is no reason to believe me, but I can categorically say he'll be our senior assistant next year.

We'll chat after the announcement.

[monoccular 16,129]

Ordinary by the Pies.

..what?

Oh...thought it may have been regarding allowing us to have Neeld.

On which point, and the general discussions about assistant coaches and how to asses them, Neeld did appear to have a reasonable pedigree when recruited, didn't he, as far as can be assessed?

[rjay 23,925]

You really think he is the only person Melbourne has met with till now? Please....

I know this page get's filled with a lot of rumour and BS and perhaps there is no reason to believe me, but I can categorically say he'll be our senior assistant next year.

We'll chat after the announcement.

Thanks Paul and welcome...good to know you are now posting on demonland.

[Ted Lasso 16,825]

You really think he is the only person Melbourne has met with till now? Please....

I know this page get's filled with a lot of rumour and BS and perhaps there is no reason to believe me, but I can categorically say he'll be our senior assistant next year.

We'll chat after the announcement.

When's that going to be? i'd assume give Essendons season is over there is nothing stopping them?

[DeeSpencer 23,189]

Oh...thought it may have been regarding allowing us to have Neeld.

On which point, and the general discussions about assistant coaches and how to asses them, Neeld did appear to have a reasonable pedigree when recruited, didn't he, as far as can be assessed?

Local footy success, TAC success, turned Coll backline in to a successful unit then took their midfield to the elite level. All sounded good at the time.

The flaws I guess were that his head coaching was limited to Ocean Grove taking over post Brendan McCartney and that his time at AFL level was actually pretty brief. He wasn't a long serving assistant as others.

Goodwin too doesn't have the longest of apprenticeships but he was presumably getting experience in leadership and coaching to an extent whilst captain at Adelaide and as a senior player there under Craig. Then he had however many years under Hird then the year under Bomber. So already that's 3 coaching styles he's been exposed to. Then he'll have 2 years under Roos.

The major difference is that instead of finding the very best assistant out there and throwing them in the deep end by giving them the reigns we just have to find someone who has the potential and they can be molded. Given so many decisions are made by the senior coach at a footy club it must be a daunting task to come to a place and start with limited knowledge. Would be like sailing in the dark. The whole point of the succession plan is you avoid that. Because I think that's where Neeld made all his biggest errors in coming in a flogging a dead horse playing group instead of realising he needed to earn the trust of a playing group that definitely was underperforming but was also pretty lost.

[Fork 'em 6,525]

Yes just like we got the good oil from Malthouse on Neeld.

Always thought Malthouse was happy to undermine the incoming Buckley by any means possible.

Including spruiking established Collingwood assistant coaches to other clubs.

[hoopla 418]

I know that Goodwin was an excellent player and on-field leader- probably underrated here in Victoria and he must have been an impressive new retiree to get the gig at Essendon in the first place. Clearly Bomber Thompson must have given Roos the thumbs up - and Craig must hold him in high regard . Not sure but might have been Bernie Vince's first AFL captain as well.

Unfortunately I struggle to see anyone associated with Essendon as the blue -eyed boy we are going to build our future on - but I'll put that behind me if Roos gives him the nod.

The name "Party Boy" fits a troll well - but I wouldn't be surprised if he's proved right.

[Cheap Seats 3,303]

I know that Goodwin was an excellent player and on-field leader- probably underrated here in Victoria and he must have been an impressive new retiree to get the gig at Essendon in the first place. Clearly Bomber Thompson must have given Roos the thumbs up - and Craig must hold him in high regard . Not sure but might have been Bernie Vince's first AFL captain as well.

Unfortunately I struggle to see anyone associated with Essendon as the blue -eyed boy we are going to build our future on - but I'll put that behind me if Roos gives him the nod.

The name "Party Boy" fits a troll well - but I wouldn't be surprised if he's proved right.

Sums up my thoughts on this pretty well as well hoopla

It sounds legit, but lacks any facts at this stage - it's all speculation.

WIll be interesting to see what happens, sadly the most exciting parts of a MFCs supporters life atm (off field movement)

[BIG JIM 508]

Wait for freo to finish then we will get our man.

[Dr evil 1,185]

Paul roos to name successor Monday.

[beelzebub 22,225]

Well golleeeee... its noobee week !!!

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,078]

What happened to that bloke from sydney

[Wildcard 0]

I would be happy with Goodwin to sit with Roos for 2 years then take over for 3. Under Bomber and then Roos pretty solid coaches to be learning from.

[old dee 22,927]

The MFC cannot afford another apprentice.

We had the system of Neeld with his experienced helper in Craig and look how that turned out.

Get the best Experienced senior coach available for 2017

[Machsy 2,858]

Alastair Clarkson was an apprentice once...

Craig has also said he regrets the way he acted as a senior mentor to Neeld, trying to not interfere too much and basically standing by as he almost killed the club.

Roos has experience in handovers, and will start off as head coach with Goodwin under him.

Very different scenarios.

[Chook in Perth 2,012]

Goodwin will be announced very soon. Possibly this week.

In keeping with our long and storied history of problem gamblers.

[old dee 22,927]

Alastair Clarkson was an apprentice once...

Craig has also said he regrets the way he acted as a senior mentor to Neeld, trying to not interfere too much and basically standing by as he almost killed the club.

Roos has experience in handovers, and will start off as head coach with Goodwin under him.

Very different scenarios.

We are not Hawthorn we cannot afford another disaster

IMO the MFC needs the best experienced coach in 2017 he has a contract at Hawthorn at present but will be free at the end of 2016.

Get Him

[Lucifers Hero 37,133]

I know that Goodwin was an excellent player and on-field leader- probably underrated here in Victoria and he must have been an impressive new retiree to get the gig at Essendon in the first place. Clearly Bomber Thompson must have given Roos the thumbs up - and Craig must hold him in high regard . Not sure but might have been Bernie Vince's first AFL captain as well.

Unfortunately I struggle to see anyone associated with Essendon as the blue -eyed boy we are going to build our future on - but I'll put that behind me if Roos gives him the nod.

The name "Party Boy" fits a troll well - but I wouldn't be surprised if he's proved right.

I'm with you hoopla. This worries me! The last time a very highly respected, successful coach gave the thumbs up was Malthouse to Neeld (and Scott Watters). Look where that got us.

Even acknowledging that PR and PJ are pretty smart, Goodwin looks more like 'the best we can get' rather than the best out there. Being at the bottom is not the best time to go shopping. Would rather wait till we have a bit more success and can attract the Best there is.

[ILLDieADemon 804]

Alastair Clarkson was an apprentice once...

Craig has also said he regrets the way he acted as a senior mentor to Neeld, trying to not interfere too much and basically standing by as he almost killed the club.

Roos has experience in handovers, and will start off as head coach with Goodwin under him.

Very different scenarios.

we basically payed Craig to do nothing?

[ILLDieADemon 804]

I'm with you hoopla. This worries me! The last time a very highly respected, successful coach gave the thumbs up was Malthouse to Neeld (and Scott Watters). Look where that got us.

Even acknowledging that PR and PJ are pretty smart, Goodwin looks more like 'the best we can get' rather than the best out there. Being at the bottom is not the best time to go shopping. Would rather wait till we have a bit more success and can attract the Best there is.

A number of Assistant coaches said NO to the Port job and look at where they are now

Carlton went for the most experienced coach in the game at the moment and look at them now

Maybe It was the MFC that was the problem not the coach

Edited September 10, 2014 by ILLDieADemon

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

I know people - it's done.

Happy to never post again if I am wrong.

If you're correct, and it's not just dumb-luck, keep posting!

[chook fowler 18,299]

As I understand it the senior assistant position won't guarantee succession but would put him in the box seat if impressions are good.

Would still leave the door ajar to have a crack at Clarkson when available - the dream scenario.

[The Backyard Charizard 1,178]

Close mates of Goodwin, Stephen Rowe and Chris McDermott have said its a done deal... Will be announced within the week.

Successor or not, a good appointment I think.

[The Song Formerly Known As 6,479]

Many have said things and if they don't happen or aren't true they will never post again. Never have stayed true to their word.
Range Rover (to his credit) did leave, he kinda even threw his own funeral/wake with nice (and many not so nice) comments from the rest of us.
Although i am suspect of his resurrection through some people on here...