Off season changes TBC

[spirit of norm smith 16,617]

New assistant coach and successor - Simon Goodwin (CONFIRMED)

Retired - Byrnes (confirmed)

Delisted- Nicholson (confirmed), Clisby (confirmed), Strauss (confirmed), Blease (confirmed), Tapscott (confirmed)

Traded - Clark (to Cats)

Downgrade - Trengove to rookie list

Delisted Rookie - Georgiou

Free agent - James Frawley (to Hawks - confirmed). 5 year deal @$500,000 per annum = $2,5M (Wow). HFC cap must be busted !!

Minus 9 off main list & 2 off rookie list with Jetta upgrade

Rookies retained: Harmes & King

Rookie upgrade - Nev Jetta

Trades - Blues trade Jeff Gartlett & pick 81 for pick 61 and 81

Trade - Pies trade Herritier Labumba for Clark/Varcoe triangle

Trade - GWS trade Sam Frost & 40 & 53 for MFC #23

Draft

#2 Angus Brayshaw (Sandringham) 18 highly skilled, tough, uses ball on left or right foot, smart player, midfield class required by Roos

#3 Jake Lever ( Cannons) 18yo missed 2014 but great skills, tough as nails, quarterback type or tall mid like Fyfe.

#42 Billy Stretch (Glenelg, father son) 18 ... fast outside wingman

#40 Oscar McDonald (Nth ballarat) 18 brother of Tom. Likes it hard and shows courage and competitiveness

Rookie draft:

#2 Alex Carr (Gippsland U18s) 19 midfielder. Morrish Medal winner in 2014. Contested and clearance ball winner.

# 20 Jack Trengove (MFC re-list as a rookie)

Tall Backs - Mcdonald, Garland, Dunn, Frost, O McDonald

Small/med backs: Jetta, Grimes, Labumba... Hunt, Terlich, Barry

11

Inside mids - Jones, Viney, , Brayshaw, Cross, Riley, McKenzie, (Harmes) (Carr)

Running mids - Tyson, Vince, Toumpas, Salem, Michie, Stretch, Drummond... M Jones, Bail (Evans)

17

Tall fwds - Dawes, Hogan, Pedersen , Fitzpatrick

Med fwds - Howe, Watts

Small fwds - Kent, JKH, gartlett

9

Rucks - Gawn ... Jamar, Spencer (King)

3

New assistant coach and successor - Simon Goodwin (CONFIRMED)

Retired - Byrnes (confirmed)

Delisted- Nicholson (confirmed), Clisby (confirmed), Strauss (confirmed), Evans (Likely), Blease (confirmed), Tapscott (Likely)

Traded - Clark (to Cats)

Delisted Rookie - Georgiou

Free agent - James Frawley (to Hawks - confirmed). 5 year deal @$500,000 per annum = $2,5M (Wow). HFC cap must be busted !!

Minus 9 off main list & 2 off rookie list with Jetta upgrade

Rookies retained: Harmes & King

Rookie upgrade - Nev Jetta

Trades - Blues trade Jeff Gartlett & pick 81 for pick 61 and 81

Trade - Pies trade Herritier Labumba for Clark/Varcoe triangle

Trade - GWS trade Sam Frost & 40 & 53 for MFC #23

National Draft

#2 Christian Petracca (Eastern) 18 star onballer, inside grunt and good pace, kick 50+ and loves a goal. Strong build.

#3 Angus Brayshaw (Sandringham) 18 highly skilled, tough, uses ball on left or right foot, smart player, midfield class required by Roos

#40 Nathan Drummond - (Murray) - 19yp developed from HBF to fast, ballwinning mid. Great athlete and ready to go round 1 2015.

#42 Billy Stretch (Glenelg, father son) 18 ... fast outside wingman

# 53 Oscar McDonald (Nth ballarat) 18 brother of Tom. Likes it hard and shows courage and competitiveness

Rookie draft:

#2 Alex Carr (Gippsland U18s) 19 midfielder. Morrish Medal winner in 2014. Contested and clearance ball winner.

# 20 Michael Evans (MFC re-list as a rookie)

Tall Backs - Mcdonald, Garland, Dunn, Frost, O McDonald

Small/med backs: Jetta, Grimes, Labumba... Hunt, Terlich, Barry

11

Inside mids - Jones, Viney, Trengove, Petracca, Brayshaw, Cross, Riley, McKenzie, (Harmes) (Carr)

Running mids - Tyson, Vince, Toumpas, Salem, Michie, Stretch, Drummond... M Jones, Bail (Evans)

17

Tall fwds - Dawes, Hogan, Pedersen , Fitzpatrick

Med fwds - Howe, Watts

Small fwds - Kent, JKH, gartlett

9

Rucks - Gawn ... Jamar, Spencer (King)

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Edited October 31, 2014 by spirit of norm smith

[Adam The God 30,614]

What about the coaching staff too? Does Rawlings have another year on his contract? I'd be going after someone else. The backline was much stronger under Wellman. Both had an ordinary midfield in front of them, but our defenders seem to be stagnating, apart from Jetta.

[Deetective Sgt. Taggert 389]

Why on earth would the Swans take Strauss?

[dazzledavey36 55,899]

Swans would absolutely laugh at ass and tell us to stick if we were offering that for Sam Reid.

[Deetective Sgt. Taggert 389]

Doesn't Sam Reid have family links to the Bulldogs?

edit - yep ​http://www.heraldsun.com.au/sport/afl/reid-em-and-weep-dogs/story-e6frf9jf-1226105327645

Edited August 22, 2014 by Ascobar

[Glenn Molloy 494]

How on earth would we be able to trade Strauss when he hasn't even got a game for us this year?! Blease is a slight possibility due to his pace but I can't see anyone taking Strauss or Tapscott for a pick, they'd take them as delisted free agents at best

[spirit of norm smith 16,617]

This was an optimistic view. Sam Reid is squeezed out by Franklin & Tippett and may be seen as surplus in Sydney.

[jnrmac 20,276]

Gee another trade/delist thread. Just what we need.

[spirit of norm smith 16,617]

except this is constructive... looks at possibilities and team make up. Optimistic and practical. Not just a get Shiel and delist Nicholson thread.

[Wiseblood 24,637]

except this is constructive... looks at possibilities and team make up. Optimistic and practical. Not just a get Shiel and delist Nicholson thread.

I'll give you credit in that your trades do have some basis in reality, unlike others claiming the Dogs would cough up Pick 6 for Watts and a 2nd rounder.

If Strauss was to be traded anywhere it would be the Swans. Mitch Morton is a prime example here - useless at his former club but gave something up north. The other trades seem relatively close to value, although I'm not convinced guys like Schroder and Lyons necessarily add something super positive to our list, but they can't be any worse than what we have.

[rjay 25,307]

Rookie upgrade - Nev Jetta (pick 94)

Trades - Crows trade Jarryd Lyons for Luke Tapscott

Trade - Dogs give pick 63 for Jack Fitzpatrick

Trade - Suns give # 49 for Rohan Bail & pick 63

Trade - Cats trade Jordan Schroder for Sam Blease

Trade - Swans trade Sam Reid for pick 23 & James Strauss

Delisted free agent: Nick Malcevski

Personally would rather go for Smedts than Schroder. Hasn't been able to lock down a position but has a lot of class and is a good size.

[spirit of norm smith 16,617]

Yes I tried to consider who would be traded. Smedts is very highly regarded at Cattery. Trade of Schroder for Blease is a win win. I assume Blease may be delisted but a trade saves sime integrity.

[Deecisive 1,709]

I really not sure how many of the players you mentioned have ANY trade value, after all they cannot get a game in one of the worst performing sides in the AFL, why would someone show any interest in these Muppets.

[spirit of norm smith 16,617]

agree there is some optomism but Strauss , Blease and Tapscott were all 18-21 draft picks and many clubs see MFC environment as the issue. Like Petterd, Martin and Warnock, others see value in our discards.

[rjay 25,307]

Yes I tried to consider who would be traded. Smedts is very highly regarded at Cattery. Trade of Schroder for Blease is a win win. I assume Blease may be delisted but a trade saves sime integrity.

I think we should make a run at him anyway, Blease is unders but the kid is not getting a game and no matter how highly regarded some cash and game time would come into the equation..

[spirit of norm smith 16,617]

Is Smedts the son of a former cat as well. Does cash, losing culture and game time beat chance at a premiership, winning culture and family connection??

[rjay 25,307]

Is Smedts the son of a former cat as well. Does cash, losing culture and game time beat chance at a premiership, winning culture and family connection??

Gotta play to win a premiership & anyway I think Geelong are at the end of their run but worth a shot.

[Ted Lasso 19,549]

I reckon Roos should pick 10-15 players worth keeping and just turn the rest of this list over

Keep N.jones, Hogan, Vince, Cross, Viney, Tyson, Dunn, Mcdonald, JKH, Salem, Gawn, Garland and trade the rest

[spirit of norm smith 16,617]

BTW Saw Liam Duggan today out at Shepley Oval in Dandenong. Duggan , Laverde and Ellis all are A graders.

Duggan is worth pick 3.

[CBDees 3,167]

agree there is some optomism but Strauss , Blease and Tapscott were all 18-21 draft picks and many clubs see MFC environment as the issue. Like Petterd, Martin and Warnock, others see value in our discards.

and Bennell!

[KingDingAling 3,758]

BTW Saw Liam Duggan today out at Shepley Oval in Dandenong. Duggan , Laverde and Ellis all are A graders.

Duggan is worth pick 3.

Duggan isn't worth 3.

Be lucky to go inside the top 10.

[TRIGON 4,792]

This video pretty much sums up my off-season list management expectations:

[ILLDieADemon 804]

Tapscott, Strauss, Blease, Fitzpatrick

If these 4 players can't make it in the lost team of 2014 why would any other club pick them up?

No trade bait here.

[spirit of norm smith 16,617]

Tapscott, Blease and Strauss all were drafted 18-21 pick. Other clubs see them as having potential and flawed under MFC poor player development. Fitzpatrick has the height and goalsense to be considered. See Petterd & Martin as players now key players in their new clubs.

Some optimism in my post.

[Pates 9,679]

If Fitzy was being considered for the trade table, his game on the weekend did us no harm. I'd be up for holding on to him though, I think this year has been a being learning year for him in the ruck at Casey and that is a key reason why he hasn't played a lot of games, as a forward I think he still has potential. I would love for him to get more muscle on him though.

I've been a fan of his in the past but that set shot miss vs Lions told me it's time to try to move Jordie Mckenzie on, I reckon there might be a couple of clubs interested in him given some of the jobs he's done on the likes of Ablett and Goddard, and I would be comfortable seeing him go for a 3rd rounder or a young player (19-22).

Tapscott, Blease and Strauss will struggle to get us anything, we should have a go at trading them but if we can't get anything they should be delisted (jeez that was a terrible draft for us). Blease has the most potential to hurt us, his speed and livewire abilities could be seen as an upside but he he's only played a couple of games where he's actually had an impact.

Despite the calls for him to be traded, I think we'll keep Watts. My biggest thought on it is we won't get any value, and in the back of my mind I feel he would be a good player for us if we were a better side. I know he should be striving to make us better but he's the only player that can do the damaging release kick from half back.