End of year delistings

[Dockett 32 1,239]

Evans buys and sells Grimes?

[KingDingAling 3,758]

Evans buys and sells Grimes?

Evans is much better footballer than Grimes.

Although, that isn't a massive feat.

[beelzebub 23,392]

Evans buys and sells Grimes?

and neither are likely to be around in a truly competitive outfit

[Redleg 42,144]

and neither are likely to be around in a truly competitive outfit

That is a bit rough on Grimes. He is a good footballer who just buggers his kicks every now and then. If that part of his game can be improved he is a pretty decent player.

[beelzebub 23,392]

That is a bit rough on Grimes. He is a good footballer who just buggers his kicks every now and then. If that part of his game can be improved he is a pretty decent player.

I think youre too kind my friend. hes had how long to figure out how to kick....its set in.

Now and then??....yeah....between the start of a game and its finish...only then.

Whilst we accept mediocrity we wont go anywhere. its not about individuals...its about creating a better list.

[chook fowler 19,770]

Don't get the Evans being better than Grimes thing. Evans has shown glimpses but not for a long time and his last 2 games for us were putrid.

[P-man 13,367]

I'm not Grimes' biggest fan, but saying he's worse than Evans? On what possible basis? Evans can't even get a game.

[monoccular 17,760]

Pity about Jordie's lack of skills, as I have always admired his work rate and his courage. He is a limited talent who has worked hard to get everything he can out of himself - sadly the skill set just isn't there.

I have often thought that had the likes of Blease, Morton (and maybe even Watts)put in as much effort and G&D as has Jordie, they would be bloody good and consistent players.

[Macca 17,127]

Pity about Jordie's lack of skills, as I have always admired his work rate and his courage. He is a limited talent who has worked hard to get everything he can out of himself - sadly the skill set just isn't there.

I have often thought that had the likes of Blease, Morton (and maybe even Watts)put in as much effort and G&D as has Jordie, they would be bloody good and consistent players.

It's often the way isn't it?

Over the last 8 years we've had more than our fair share of either type of player and the frustration is for different reasons. If we had our time over again, you'd reckon the club would have imported a lot more ready to go talent.

However, I believe we've already started moving in the right direction after last year's trading and drafting. Tyson, Cross & Vince were all ready to go and we've become a much better team because we brought them in. Riley & Michie might have done better if not for injuries and both are 22 years old. All 5 are playing today.

As has been mentioned by others, imagine if Hogan and Clark had have played all season? No club ever expects to lose both of their 2 main key forwards for a whole season. You just can't plan for something like that and any plan B under those circumstances just isn't going to work.

If Hogan & Clark had have been available all season, we'd be on at least 8 wins right now in my opinion. Hogan will be back next season and might even make an appearance before the season ends. I reckon we'll make a play for another KPF if Frawley leaves. If he stays, James could play as the 3rd big forward whenever it's deemed appropriate.

[jumbo returns 6,744]

Jack Grimes is co - captain....a leader. Ffs, at least he tries and gives a [censored].

[Machsy 2,858]

Got a feeling that Tapscott may be kept. Possibly as a rookie, swapping senior list positions with Jetta.

His injury is the reason he has been dropped imo, without which he'd remain in the side, unlike others.

[picket fence 18,169]

Can you even do this. My understanding was contracts are locked in and it's just not possible to delist a guy or even move them to the rookie list.

I'd love to free up the spots but I don't think it's allowed.

I seem to remember something about this happening previously to Juice. I think he had a contract but was downgraded to rookie list ( still on senior payments) to allow another to take his spot on the Senior list. Can anyone else remember this or something like this happening. Pretty sure that precedent exists to down grade a Senior player to Rookie keep paying contract but enable another spot on main list?

[old dee 24,082]

Got a feeling that Tapscott may be kept. Possibly as a rookie, swapping senior list positions with Jetta.

His injury is the reason he has been dropped imo, without which he'd remain in the side, unlike others.

I have followed him from day one and if you watch him at training he looks a $million

But on match day he is average on his very best days.

Then add in he is injured on a regular basis.

I just struggle to see What he brings to the side.

What do you see that is worth keeping?

[P-man 13,367]

I have followed him from day one and if you watch him at training he looks a $million

But on match day he is average on his very best days.

Then add in he is injured on a regular basis.

I just struggle to see What he brings to the side.

What do you see that is worth keeping?

We all know the main issue with Tappy, namely his aerobic capacity. He has the skills and the toughness but he can't run which is restricting his ability to impact the game. If he can work on that and shed some kilos to look a bit less like a bouncer and more like a footballer, he'd be a decent player.

[stuie 7,374]

Don't want to stop the improvement and list changes will happen as they do each year as teams try to improve their lists

I just thinks it's funny that after last year, posters want 15 changes to the list. but just my opinion. Nothing more or less than that

That's just how bad our list is unfortunately.

[Redleg 42,144]

Pity about Jordie's lack of skills, as I have always admired his work rate and his courage. He is a limited talent who has worked hard to get everything he can out of himself - sadly the skill set just isn't there.

I have often thought that had the likes of Blease, Morton (and maybe even Watts)put in as much effort and G&D as has Jordie, they would be bloody good and consistent players.

And that is the problem. Too many of our players have one or two good qualities but are lacking in others, often the basic ones required for footballers.

[beelzebub 23,392]

Tappy ought to have developed his tank by now

. DNR2015 I suspect.

[olisik 4,060]

tappy cant stay on the park for more then 5 games straight

[Machsy 2,858]

I have followed him from day one and if you watch him at training he looks a $million

But on match day he is average on his very best days.

Then add in he is injured on a regular basis.

I just struggle to see What he brings to the side.

What do you see that is worth keeping?

I honestly don't know.

It's just a feeling I get about how the football dept see him.

Nothing beyond a vague feeling though.

[titan_uranus 25,252]

We'll see when I re-bump this thread in a couple of years.

Evans buys and sells Grimes as a footballer. I'd keep McKenzie because he is a good tagger/aggressive player.

Bail has shown improvements, enough to suggest he has gone past Grimes.

Jack Grimes simply isn't very good, he is a shocking kick and is slow to put ball to foot.

If Grimes has trade value, I'd off load him. He isn't getting a game on form.

Look, you're entitled to your opinion, but I fail to see any basis for suggesting Evans is better than Grimes.

I'm the first person to admit I think Grimes is mediocre atm, but mediocre right now has Evans well and truly covered.

[Adam The God 30,715]

Evans is much better footballer than Grimes.

Although, that isn't a massive feat.

Neither are good enough, but at least Grimes can occasionally read the play. Evans is a half decent runner. I don't see much else in him. I'd be moving them both on once their contracts are up.

[Dockett 32 1,239]

Would somebody mind having a go at unravelling the Roosey speak in his presser re playing players and the pre season bit?

About whom was he referring do you think?

[What 18,810]

Would somebody mind having a go at unravelling the Roosey speak in his presser re playing players and the pre season bit?

About whom was he referring do you think?

There is nothing to unravel it was very straight forward, shape up or ship out

Wouldn't matter too much anyay as the players that we all suspect will be delisted would have already had their papers stamped weeks ago

Roosy knows whos in and whos out

[P-man 13,367]

Would somebody mind having a go at unravelling the Roosey speak in his presser re playing players and the pre season bit?

About whom was he referring do you think?

Loved it. Strong message about what he is expecting from the remaining weeks. Nothing but 100% effort (like we got today).

[biggestred 5,310]

If grimes was in a good team he would be a solid player