Dawes in trouble ?

[Sir Why You Little 36,918]

Bugger. But it aint worth challenging.

Cop it and get ready for QB

Edited May 19, 2014 by why you little

[What 18,810]

1 week, phew

He will be ready, hungry and fresh for Queens Birthday

[Pennant St Dee 13,044]

I guess we just have to cop it, carry over points the issue but seriously the system is a joke when you get the same as a player gets for knocking somoene out

[Robbie57 2,020]

Bugger.

At least he now gets extra time to freshen up for the second half of the year.

He will be jumping out of his skin on QBW.

[Radar Detector 1,347]

I don't see any problem with this suspension. If Dawes had been on the receiving end I would've expected 1-2 weeks... it was a deliberate strike to the face. Softish, but that is a clear example of unneccesary contact to the head.

[DeeSpencer 25,383]

I don't see any problem with this suspension. If Dawes had been on the receiving end I would've expected 1-2 weeks... it was a deliberate strike to the face. Softish, but that is a clear example of unneccesary contact to the head.

It wasn't a deliberate strike. Deliberate strikes are made with elbows and fist and involve proper footwork. Dawes was up for the smother (yes a Melbourne player smothers) and then only Dawes would really know if he planned to go for the head/neck or if he was aiming to push with his forearm (a similar motion knocked Jaensch out of a game v Adel) in to the body.

Personally I think there was enough doubt to grade it negligent not reckless, but I can live with the reckless grading.

What confuses me is the 'medium impact'. Surely the impact has to take in to account the rest of the play not just that Rance was shook up a bit. You've already cited Dawes for striking to the head, if it was such low force it wouldn't have been a reportable offense to begin with. So now that you've got that covered you should expect Rance to have copped a bit of a hit and to take a while to get up. Which he does and then plays out the game with no ill effects.

It was a crude play. But it wasn't the kind of dirty play that needed a suspension to clean up the game or provide guidance to junior and local leagues. Not compared to Deledio and Chapman's elbows.

[DemonDan... 77]

WTF?

A couple of good wins and we get content and toothless?

Delideo punched a guy in the face, after a goal had been scored and got off.. and Dawes' forearm push was half that.

We have to appeal this, its only worth a reprimand..

[Nasher 33,607]

WTF?

A couple of good wins and we get content and toothless?

Delideo punched a guy in the face, after a goal had been scored and got off.. and Dawes' forearm push was half that.

We have to appeal this, its only worth a reprimand..

Which part of the classification do you disagree with? If you take it to the tribunal, you will have to challenge one or more of the aspects of the classification. We would just be asking for the 1 week to become 2. If we challenge and lose (and we will lose, if we challenge), that is when I'll be absolutely livid.

The fact that they got the Deledio one wrong doesn't make this one wrong. Intentional or not, it should not be okay for a player's arm to make contact with a player's face to the point where he is dazed. An action does not have to be malicious or "dirty" for it to also be wrong.

[Mega_Watts 70]

For the record - Dawes has ZERO carryover points. They expire after 12 months, which means his conveniently expired last round.

Personally, I think the "Medium impact" is outrageously excessive. He should have been offered 1 week down to zero with a guilty plea.

Unfortunately it is not worth the risk to challenge, so we'll just cop the week.

[deanox 9,894]

Best week to happen. We're not going to beat port anyway. But he'll be back for our next winnable game.

[Deestroy All 14,262]

While I don't think he should go for it, it was stupid, so I wouldn't take the risk challenging it unless no weeks can be added on.

The whole system is a continuous joke.

He did a similar thing to Jaensch only lower and broke his ribs and it wasn't even looked at. Would you rather be Jaensch or Rance?

[DemonDan... 77]

Nash/

i disagree with the medium impact bs..

it was a fairy tap.

chapman efforts last week were worthy of 3 matches, delideo 1 and dawes none.. imo.

[Wunders 397]

I'll look at this another way.. Dawes is injury prone (or has been to date), maybe it's a little blessing in that he gets two weeks off from game day loads (although i guess it could be argued the Bye does the same thing).

Medium impact is the interesting call - richmond must have put in a great medical report for it to be termed that..

[RalphiusMaximus 6,013]

There are grounds for challenging in that verdict. I would be looking at two aspects. Firstly, calling it a striking incident is clearly false. I don't know if it makes a difference or not to the end result, but what Deledio did is a strike. Dawes is at worst rough conduct.

Secondly, they have called it Medium impact. While the player played it up at the time, he was unaffected, played out the game and will not have any ongoing issues, so clearly it should be a low impact.

That being said, I don't think it is worth a challenge. The tribunal is notoriously reluctant to dismiss charges and if (when) they returned a guilty verdict it would lead to a two match suspension. I doubt they would accept a plea of "no case to answer" or "this charge is bloody stupid."

[Ron Burgundy 8,584]

Take the week. Expect Frawley will have recovered by the Port game.

Not ideal though - Dawes has genuinely transformed this team.

[Deestroy All 14,262]

If we do challenge this and lose, I'm boycotting the Hall of Fame dinner.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,129]

Is there any footage of the Vlastuin hit on Tyson?

Obviously not on the AFL website because that would be prejudicial.

Not that it really matters. The Deledio incident has set the precedent so elbow away Tiges.

Yeah it was captured at the time it happened (not sure if shown on a replay) during the Fox coverage. Not much in it, Tyson didn't do much more than grab his chin but still it was a deliberate elbow to the head of an opponent during a stop in play - surely that is worse than a careless forearm to the head during the play but noones said boo about it.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

Viney's brace was also considered "medium" impact which resulted in a broken jaw.

[Demon Disciple 12,014]

Everyone's up in arms here. I'm not happy about it, but not unhappy either. The head is sacrosanct, and what Dawes did, was just stupidity. The extra week off might make him realise that. Not the worst timing to get the extra week off either.

He'll miss the clash against Port, even with him, we wouldn't be much of a chance. He doesn't have to face the arduous task of recovery from playing the NT game, he gets extra hungry to face the filth and is cherry ripe to go.

[Vipercrunch 2,820]

They can't rank the impact of this one same as they ranked the Viney/Lynch one. It's just not possible. The whole system is just broken.

I hope they take it on.

Edited May 19, 2014 by S_T

[nutbean 8,838]

Best week to happen. We're not going to beat port anyway. But he'll be back for our next winnable game.

So pick and chose the games we can win ? Tell that to the players. That's the attitude.

[Ted Lasso 19,191]

Just take a week because it was a stupid thing to do, he will be fresh for queens birthday

[Blinkybill 276]

A fair penalty for a stupid act. For all the hysteria about bumping causing injury, this was always an accepted part of the game. What Dawes did never has been.

[What 18,810]

Best week to happen. We're not going to beat port anyway.

Paul Roos and the players will beg to differ

Cant wait to show Port up for the pretenders they are

[Gorgoroth 12,911]

Can any one say for certain if there are more loading a if we challenge?