Australia has lost its way with the Jack Viney decision

...he missed the point trying to blame the passives in our community. When the real reason all this is happening to our game, is because we are fiollowing Americas lead, 'of Litigation' wherever a $dollar is to be made from a court decision.

$ueing is ruining our game. the likelyhood of being $ued is why the AFL are running pirouette-ing scared.

The two most reasoned comments I've seen come from Bob Murphy and Jude Bolton, both tough, hard but fair players who have a combined 581 games between them (Bolton retired 2013), so you can hardly query their credentials.

Murphy says that the Tribunal ruling creates a horrible dilemma for players, because it makes them have to choose between avoiding collisions in order not to get suspended, while at the same time earning the wrath of their coach and risking getting dropped. No one likes a 'squib' and it's a black mark against a player's name.

Bolton in The Age continues this theme by saying the decision "goes against everything every recruiting staff looks at in potential draftees. Comments would be made in the stands or upon reviewing a player's shortcomings, such as 'he ducks out of the way', or 'goes with one hand'. Basically the judgment is swiftly passed and it inks a black line well and truly through the potential draftee".

Far better that Barrett's "that's just the way it is". For the information of Barrett, I don't want to go back to or yearn for 'the good old days' of blood and punch-ups. I just want the good recent ones where good players could go hard at the ball but the thugs still got caught.

Barrett should lose his acreditation over this issue....He is so far removed from reality that no word or printed form on AFL should ever be produced by him again.

apparently the AFL are in talks with Electronic Arts to switch the game completely across to a safer VR format !!

Bet your email to the AFL disappeared into the too hard basket inbox.

Nope they answered me and told me to be patient so I was happy that they responded

Someone has to present the facts, funnily enough this person is a Prosecutor

prosecutor or persecutor? (Reminds me of GWBush's early words in response to 9/11)

...he missed the point trying to blame the passives in our community. When the real reason all this is happening to our game, is because we are fiollowing Americas lead, 'of Litigation' wherever a $dollar is to be made from a court decision.

$ueing is ruining our game. the likelyhood of being $ued is why the AFL are running pirouette-ing scared.

Spot on. Having to sue someone in order to cover the expenses of becoming disabled in some way is just a $-fest for lawyers and a disaster if you can't take the risk of employing them. Society should move to a position where if you need extra $ to live reasonably, national insurance covers it. Try the New Zealand model.

The AFL is run by insurance companies, because sports stars are realising that they get a sore head after retirement and blame it on their code. You're being paid ridiculous amounts to use your body as a battering ram, surely the risk is clear?

The AFL is run by insurance companies, because sports stars are realising that they get a sore head after retirement and blame it on their code. You're being paid ridiculous amounts to use your body as a battering ram, surely the risk is clear?

Not a very enlightened attitude.

So what you're saying is that you're ok with paying to watch people receive brain injuries?

This isn't Ancient Rome.

And anyway, you're missing the point entirely. Nobody except you is saying it is fine that Lynch got injured. What they're saying is that it was accidental and unavoidable and therefore shouldn't get punished by suspension.

ANOTHER BLACK PINK DAY by Whispering Jack

THE TEAMS

MELBOURNE

B: Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald, Dean Terlich

HB: Colin Garland, Lynden Dunn, Jack Grimes

C: Daniel Cross, Dom Tyson, Bernie Vince

HF: Rohan Bail, James Frawley, Jack Watts

F: Jeremy Howe, Chris Dawes, Cam Pedersen

FOLL: Mark Jamar, Nathan Jones, Jack Viney

I/C: Christian Salem, Shannon Byrnes, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Matt Jones

EMG: Mitch Clisby, Max Gawn, Aidan Riley

IN: Colin Garland

OUT: Alex Georgiou

WESTERN BULLDOGS

B: Liam Picken, Tom Williams, Easton Wood.

HB: Shaun Higgins, Dale Morris, Robert Murphy.

C: Adam Cooney, Ryan Griffen, Jack Macrae.

HF: Jake Stringer, Stewart Crameri, Tory Dickson.

F: Luke Dahlhaus, Liam Jones, Daniel Giansiracusa.

FOLL: Will Minson, Matthew Boyd, Tom Liberatore.

I/C: Jason Tutt, Fletcher Roberts, Lachie Hunter, Jason Johannisen.

EMG: Marcus Bontempelli, Brett Goodes, Michael Talia

IN: Daniel Giansiracusa, Fletcher Roberts, Jason Tutt

OUT: Marcus Bontempelli, Koby Stevens, Michael Talia

Wondering who goes in if Frawley doesn't come up?

One of my favourite things about the selected side this week is that I'd be happy with any one of the emergencies running out on Saturday.

But nothing beats Jack being cleared to play.

If Chip doesn't get up you'd think we'd have two options.

One, we go for a direct swap. Bring in Gawn, send him to the forward line as tall timbre and also gives Jamar relief ruck that can hold his own.

Two, a little left field. We send Garland to the forward line and bring in Clisby who's had consistent form at Casey.

I can't think of too many big targets in the dogs forward line so it might be a smaller defender could work. Col might enjoy being given the chance to kick some goals this week.

Riley will get his chance soon enough, but bloody tough to drop anyone after beating the crows in Adelaide.

If Chip doesn't get up you'd think we'd have two options.

One, we go for a direct swap. Bring in Gawn, send him to the forward line as tall timbre and also gives Jamar relief ruck that can hold his own.

Two, a little left field. We send Garland to the forward line and bring in Clisby who's had consistent form at Casey.

I can't think of too many big targets in the dogs forward line so it might be a smaller defender could work. Col might enjoy being given the chance to kick some goals this week.

Riley will get his chance soon enough, but bloody tough to drop anyone after beating the crows in Adelaide.

not so crazy actually, Garland won us the Essendon game as a forward under Neeld.

If Chip doesn't get up you'd think we'd have two options.

One, we go for a direct swap. Bring in Gawn, send him to the forward line as tall timbre and also gives Jamar relief ruck that can hold his own.

Two, a little left field. We send Garland to the forward line and bring in Clisby who's had consistent form at Casey.

I can't think of too many big targets in the dogs forward line so it might be a smaller defender could work. Col might enjoy being given the chance to kick some goals this week.

Riley will get his chance soon enough, but bloody tough to drop anyone after beating the crows in Adelaide.

The dogs will likely have Williams, Jones and Crameri as tall forwards. We will likely need 3 tall defenders. The best 3 obviously in McDonald, Garland and Dunn.

But the wildcard is playing Howe on Crameri and freeing up one of those key defenders to play forward. If that was the case I'd rather Dunn forward as a natural forward than Garland who I think should find form first.

The biggest likelihood I think is if Frawley doesn't come up we play small and go with Dawes, Pedersen (2nd ruck/forward) and Watts in the Frawley roll as another lead up target. Whilst Frawley took some decent grabs his main input was to just be another fast leading target to provide an option. There's no reason Watts can't do that as he'd done it before against the dogs.

not so crazy actually, Garland won us the Essendon game as a forward under Neeld.

I have a feeling (and this is not inside information) that Max Gawn will play. The fact that Frawley hasn't done the main sessions suggest he won't play. Gawn as the ruck releases Pedersen elsewhere.

Spot on. Having to sue someone in order to cover the expenses of becoming disabled in some way is just a $-fest for lawyers and a disaster if you can't take the risk of employing them. Society should move to a position where if you need extra $ to live reasonably, national insurance covers it. Try the New Zealand model.

I like your concept, where the community will look after you if/when you fall on hard times. everyone contributes to the team communal effort.

takes out the exploitation, & gives back to sharing & caring. the concept of team. no I in that team model.

This team is looking very versatile,

B: Neville Jetta, Tom McDonald, Dean Terlich
HB: Colin Garland, Lynden Dunn, Jack Grimes
C: Daniel Cross, Dom Tyson, Bernie Vince
HF: Rohan Bail, James Frawley, Jack Watts
F: Jeremy Howe, Chris Dawes, Cam Pedersen
FOLL: Mark Jamar, Nathan Jones, Jack Viney
I/C: Christian Salem, Shannon Byrnes, Jay Kennedy-Harris, Matt Jones
EMG: Mitch Clisby, Max Gawn, Aidan Riley

and settled.

its nice to feel comfortable as a supporter, with how selection is going these days.

If Frawley does get up to play it will be the first time the demonland banner have all played together...exciting!

Ok so I'm going to my first match as a member. What gate do I go through?

I have a feeling (and this is not inside information) that Max Gawn will play. The fact that Frawley hasn't done the main sessions suggest he won't play. Gawn as the ruck releases Pedersen elsewhere.

Or Jamar

Ok so I'm going to my first match as a member. What gate do I go through?

The members gate...

Ok so I'm going to my first match as a member. What gate do I go through?

It is Melbourne's home game, depends on what membership you have, but most Dees supporters will be down the Punt Rd end so Gate 5

I am buzzing for Saturday night. Although I won't be underrating the doggies, they have been close over recent weeks.

I have a very good feeling about this game!

i reckon we have new found confidence and an ability to strangle sides and the dogs style of play will play right into our hands ( long kicking forward and no really good targets )

Dees by 27

Dawes to be the difference, we saw that a big target can be the difference in these games against the Saints and Blues

Edited May 8, 201411 yr by Sassy

Viney as Sub?

Let him ease into the game.