These blokes on SEN are making me feel sick. They are defending Essendon, and being so gentle on them, it is disgusting. If this was Melbourne, the drilling that Melbourne would be receiving in unfathomable.

Why does the media HATE Melbourne so much? I do not get it, what have Melbourne done that has hurt the media that much?

Maybe because a key host is the father of the captain?

Is anyone else going blue from holding their breath? I'm still worried we have some blokes who did the same crap. However does anyone remember when Hird came back after a year off and looked like the Incredible Hulk?

Anyway at least we get the 4pts back or are they just not awarded?

Not awarded, but we'd get our % back. If they are banned or whatever.

They'll wriggle out of it somehow, they won't roll over and cop it sweet.

These blokes on SEN are making me feel sick. They are defending Essendon, and being so gentle on them, it is disgusting. If this was Melbourne, the drilling that Melbourne would be receiving in unfathomable.

Why does the media HATE Melbourne so much? I do not get it, what have Melbourne done that has hurt the media that much?

Seems to me like the written media is more harsh than the audio/visual media. Whenever I hear it or see it on TV it's all poor Essendon this and that, I don't get it - is it because they're mostly ex players? What, they'd rather have Essendon in the comp than punish malpractice and cheating?

Yet we get every orifice torn apart no matter what we do.

I actually have little care about this stuff at the moment. We have a lot more to worry about with our own club.

These blokes on SEN are making me feel sick. They are defending Essendon, and being so gentle on them, it is disgusting. If this was Melbourne, the drilling that Melbourne would be receiving in unfathomable.

Why does the media HATE Melbourne so much? I do not get it, what have Melbourne done that has hurt the media that much?

It's because they fear Essendon. They're scared that their supporters will not listened or watch their shows. They're scared of legal action. They're scared of upsetting the apple cart. Unfortunately nobody is scared of the MFC .

Cant see how we could be awarded the 4 points.

As far as i could see, we didnt play

It's because they fear Essendon. They're scared that their supporters will not listened or watch their shows. They're scared of legal action. They're scared of upsetting the apple cart. Unfortunately nobody is scared of the MFC .

To Caro's credit, she's gone hard on Essendon and demanded coach, CEO and president be sacked.

Fatprick Smith has also gone hard IIRC.

So Caro slams Hird and Robbo & Ralphy quick to report their beloved Essendon champions denial.

Anti-obesity pills! Which coach rapidly lost weight before taking on a new appointment?

James Hird = Lance Armstrong

I guess they are just reporting that Stephen Dank said he injected him with this stuff. Dont shoot the messenger. Its no different to the age reporting comments from ex players and officials who said we set out to lose games. Its because its James Hird and he is the golden boy.

You know what I woke up today put the radio on and they were not talking about us. Caro has taken the focus off us. Thankyou.

I just wish this had come out last week!!

So Bambi may have shot himself. Haven't got any Essendon players in my supercoach team, but I am coming last.

Whoa there geddy Lee What are you saying? Mass exodus of who? Players? Sponsors?

You cant drop that bombshell without giving us something??

What exactly?

It begins. One of JH and MT to be shown the door.

I just wish this had come out last week!!

No you don't. Because then they would have had an excuse to whitewash the drug scandal or move it off the front page

No you don't. Because then they would have had an excuse to whitewash the drug scandal or move it off the front page

Our performance may have been better.

Losing by 148 points was not good for my health!!!

Hird wont go. He will deny it. As someone said on SEN we all thought Lance was clear. Plus everyone thinks the sunshine out of him. He is a protected species.

Caro didnt even write the story on the front page and its also in the herald sun. yet all I heard this morning is people bagging her. I guess she is an easy target.

But my thought is why would Dank say this. Yes he may be bitter but Hird could take further action on this so why risk it.

Maybe Hird didn't realise what he was being given.

Going to drop verrrrrry sooooonn... Hird to step down? Pitty bomber will do a better job anyway

This from Jake Niall's article in today's Age:

the AFL can no longer take any pride in the empirical fact that no AFL footballer since 1997 has recorded a positive test for WADA-banned substances (Richmond's Justin Charles being the last one).

http://www.theage.com.au/afl/afl-news/smorgasbord-of-drugs-on-offer--legal-and-otherwise-20130410-2hlvh.html

Niall also says:

In effect, the expert told and sold the officials on the possibilities - and there were a hell of a lot of them. Much of what was being offered couldn't be detected via drug testing. Other substances were not banned; still others weren't even on the radar of the World Anti-Doping Agency.

It was possible, the expert said, for the players to have specific amino acids tailored for their body.

Personally I think it is unlikely that the Chief Football Writer for The Age will find it possible to objectively investigate and cast her opinions on Richmond FC's involvement if any, and on the culture at Richmond in Justin Charles' time there.

Hence this thread, for as the stories develop.

If Essendon goes down for these charges, what will happen with their premiership points for this season? If they lose them, does that mean we gain 4 points from last week, or does the AFL look at our performance, laugh and give them to a losing side that actually made an effort?

lol, I love the softy "Go Bombers" in the background of the Essendon press conference.

If Essendon goes down for these charges, what will happen with their premiership points for this season? If they lose them, does that mean we gain 4 points from last week, or does the AFL look at our performance, laugh and give them to a losing side that actually made an effort?

If Essendon go down for this they will be finished as a club,they wont be able to retain there players, it will have massive affects for there sponsorship, you only have to look at Lance Armstrong, the AFL must be very worried about there situation.

Does look like Dank is prepared to do anything to save his own bacon. I would not be quick to judge James Hird. I do think you can say that employing Dank and weapon was an act of incredible stupidity regardless of final outcome.

If Essendon goes down for these charges, what will happen with their premiership points for this season? If they lose them, does that mean we gain 4 points from last week, or does the AFL look at our performance, laugh and give them to a losing side that actually made an effort?

If the bombers are removed from this season we won't get the points because then that's not fair on the teams that didn't get to play them. We'd have to get our percentage back though.

I can't see that happening though, it's just too huge.

I don't buy this [censored] that Hird was the only one to take the illegally listed drug. What, did he want to get down the steps quicker at quarter time? They all took it and he did to feel the benefits.

They won't go down, no doubt the AFL will have done a deal where Dank and the club cop the hit, not the players.

Vlad will pull out all stops to ensure the players are not suspended.

But even if WADA let them off, the AFL must strip them of all their premiership points for last year, cos it will achieve nothing and be ridiculous which means that's exactly what they will do