Bombers scandal: charged, <redacted> and <infracted>

[PJ_12345 1,098]

If anyone wants some light entertainment, then i'd suggest visiting the 190+ page thread on Bomberblitz, some serious denial in there

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Lol, definately some funny stuff on there but did seem like a bit of deja vu.

[stradbroke 9]

As a matter of fairness, the AFL should be investigating supplement use at Essendon for a period in excess of the next 7 months. Let them play the season with a cloud hanging over them; just as the AFL has done to the MFC.

[Biffen 12,949]

Today's news is no coincidence with essendons announcement. They must have been given a heads up.

Also look at west coast eagles.....they won flags with unusual size bodies

They were balls of muscle and endurance-scarily big and stronger than any other team .

Given their recent past ,i have no doubt they were doped up.

[monoccular 17,607]

The old argument of Recruiting v Development springs to mind here, I reckon our recruiting has been abysmal over the last 10 years, but I'm beginning to believe that there are some clubs that have overcome their poor recruiting by some very astute development.

It really pisses me off that we have watched the so called power clubs win premierships that may be tainted and that we have fallen off the pace because we have refused to use the "cutting edge" training techniques they have adopted; I'm glad we didn't but it really grates that the ones that did have stuck it up us for so long. I hope the cheats are all hung out to dry and I don't care who it is, anyone that has used drugs should be given the ass from the competition.

I guess there will always be those questions, especially when a club has surprisingly bulked up over a short period and brushed aside all opposition.

Clearly, whatever faults and failings MFC may have had over the years, body building drugs was very clearly not systemic at the ub.

Yes, it pisses me off too, as it must do to any clubs that may have (if any) enjoyed legitimate success during the "drug era".

I once thought that Lance Armstrong was an amazing athlete to do what he did without drugs: how naïve I was.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

The mere fact that a bunch of their players have been into illicit drugs dating back to the 90's and Benny's best off-filed mates were crooks screams that there was something dodgy going on at WC. I'm not expecting any investigation.....just more "poor Benny" from time to time.

They had the opportunity to do something then, they could have investigated West Coast and would have been in their rights to do so, but they concentrated too much on Benny and not enough on the rotten culture of the club he was playing for. You would have to be a complete idiot to think West Coast had no knowledge of the goings on.

If they had come down hard then they might have nipped this in the bud but in trying to protect the name of the game they have gone a long way down the path of destroying it.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

I guess there will always be those questions, especially when a club has surprisingly bulked up over a short period and brushed aside all opposition.

Clearly, whatever faults and failings MFC may have had over the years, body building drugs was very clearly not systemic at the ub.

Yes, it pisses me off too, as it must do to any clubs that may have (if any) enjoyed legitimate success during the "drug era".

I once thought that Lance Armstrong was an amazing athlete to do what he did without drugs: how naïve I was.

I don't have any idols in sport or anything else for that matter but Armstrong was the one sportsman I admired the most and it really cut me up when he was found to have been on the juice.

[dee-eee 231]

They were balls of muscle and endurance-scarily big and stronger than any other team .

Given their recent past ,i have no doubt they were doped up.

I remember my astonishment ( but not the year) when the Weagles ran out at Waverley in an early round looking like toy Action Men !

[keep13alive 78]

Gee these Norf supporters are a smug, holier then thou mob.When did they grow the current chips on shoulder mentality.They are baying for blood at every other teams misfortunes as if they are the AFL moral police.Don't they remember brown paper bags in the 70's?

Has been fascinating to watch them stick the boots in RE:tanking and the current scandal.Can see myself seeding them higher in my pure derision rankings.Sincerely hope Norf and Carlscum implicated.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

Gee these Norf supporters are a smug, holier then thou mob.When did they grow the current chips on shoulder mentality.They are baying for blood at every other teams misfortunes as if they are the AFL moral police.Don't they remember brown paper bags in the 70's?

Has been fascinating to watch them stick the boots in RE:tanking and the current scandal.Can see myself seeding them higher in my pure derision rankings.Sincerely hope Norf and Carlscum implicated.

Perhaps they forget one of their best was on the white powder for most of his career, that's of course when he wasn't shaking hands with the captains wife.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

beautifully put.

Thanks, WYL. It did make me think --- are the scum the only team to have downed us in more than one Grand Final? (1946, 2000, not to mention the draw in 1948). Someone with better historical knowledge than I may be able to confirm or deny this ... (though I think I am nuts for wanting to know )

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

Whos to blame if we get done for Tanking?

Jack Watts of course

[BangkokDemon 96]

Must be some sort of record, but this is the first article Caro has written in a long long time which does not try to link either the club, or CS into yet another AFL scandal...amazing !!

War on sports scientists

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

I don't remember 1946, and '54 was a very unexpected GF appearance coming from the cellar the previous year (? similar scenario with a young remodeled team 2013?) - cannot hold a grudge against the Doggies for that one.

Yes, you can --- it depends on how hard you try ... I will say that better the Doggies get their one and so far only than the filth getting two in a row ...

[Gorgoroth 13,136]

Must be some sort of record, but this is the first article Caro has written in a long long time which does not try to link either the club, or CS into yet another AFL scandal...amazing !!

War on sports scientists

Must of been a typo, accidentally sent it off before copying and pasting in some dribble from her anti Melbourne folder.

[hardtack 10,704]

Just saw a tweet made by former Demonologist (and perhaps very occasional Demonlander) Graham Gaunt:

"Paul Gardner just got on @2GB873 and mentioned that@melbournefc and another club north of Sydney are rumoured on the issue. #sourgrapes ?"

Anyone else hear this?

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

I guess there will always be those questions, especially when a club has surprisingly bulked up over a short period and brushed aside all opposition.

Clearly, whatever faults and failings MFC may have had over the years, body building drugs was very clearly not systemic at the ub.

That's it! All that possum poop in the 'Vault' must have been hallucinogenic! That would explain a lot of things ... B)

[Guest José Mourinho]

I don't put our recent plight purely to the fact we haven't and they have, there's a certain amount of natural fitness we haven't been able to acheive due to lack of facilities and lack of money in the football department. It's the ones who have gone the extra yard and have resorted to cheating I hate, if anyone at our club is involved I hope they get rubbed out too.

As an aside I wonder if Beamer would like to offer an opinion on Geelong when he was there.

I can tell you I know nothing of Beamer being involved in performance enhancing drugs whilst at the Cats.

Draw inferences from that as you see fit.

[Dee Fan 3,247]

I can tell you I know nothing of Beamer being involved in performance enhancing drugs whilst at the Cats.

Draw inferences from that as you see fit.

My question was if he was aware of it not if he was part of it.

[Cards13 9,117]

Just saw a tweet made by former Demonologist (and perhaps very occasional Demonlander) Graham Gaunt:

"Paul Gardner just got on @2GB873 and mentioned that@melbournefc and another club north of Sydney are rumoured on the issue. #sourgrapes ?"

Anyone else hear this?

On the issue? What does that mean? Fark me I tell you if any of our players from the last era of total [censored] (sh !t) were "involved" I'll just about give it away.

And seriously [censored] off Gardner you pompous bell end.

Edited February 7, 2013 by Cards13

[PJ_12345 1,098]

Just saw a tweet made by former Demonologist (and perhaps very occasional Demonlander) Graham Gaunt:

"Paul Gardner just got on @2GB873 and mentioned that@melbournefc and another club north of Sydney are rumoured on the issue. #sourgrapes ?"

Anyone else hear this?

DAMN, I knew Morton and Cook put on too much muscle...

[Cards13 9,117]

My question was if he was aware of it not if he was part of it.

Take out the two words in italics RF.....

[DeeVoted 583]

This has made me wonder about the fall out with our long time medical staff when the new footy dept moved in...but I suspect I'm jumping at shadows...

Yesterday that same thought crossed my mind. At the time it was a concern that some highly rated Med staff walked out.

All these sports scientists and anyone else for that matter will be put under the microscope. Why it hadnt been done before now is a mystery.

[Red and Bluebeard 2,101]

Thanks, WYL. It did make me think --- are the scum the only team to have downed us in more than one Grand Final? (1946, 2000, not to mention the draw in 1948). Someone with better historical knowledge than I may be able to confirm or deny this ... (though I think I am nuts for wanting to know )

In case anyone wants to know, that list is a complete one of all our Grand Final losses (1946, 1954, 1958, 1988, 2000), so the scum are the only ones to do that to us more than once (and the 1948 draw). Make of that what you will (if anyone is still reading )

[monoccular 17,607]

I can tell you I know nothing of Beamer being involved in performance enhancing drugs whilst at the Cats.

Draw inferences from that as you see fit.

as I recall, Geelong weren't exactly performing in Beemer's time there.

[Biffen 12,949]

On the issue? What does that mean? Fark me I tell you if any of our players from the last era of total [censored] (sh !t) were "involved" I'll just about give it away.

And seriously [censored] off Gardner you pompous bell end.

Paul Gardner should move on.

He had five years to get the club paying its debts.

Does he have a job now?

Sad has been.