Frankston v Casey Scorpions

[KC from Casey 6,559]

This week the Scorpions have a must win battle ahead of them against the much improved Dolphins at the picturesque Frankston Oval by the bay.

There's no Jesse Hogan (planned rest week) but James Magner retains his place in the side although it was thought he might be promoted to play for Melbourne after being uplifted from the rookie list.

Frankston v Casey Scorpions

Sunday 11th August

Frankston Oval at 2:00PM

Frankston

Backs Newman J Irving Dermott

Half backs Purcell Clark Jennings

Centreline Cass Hockey Miller

Half forwards Buchan Simpson Pongracic

Forwards C Irving Lourey Lloyd

Followers Gabriel Kitchin Potts

Interchange (from) Alwan Boland Bosward Delahunty Edwards Gardiner* Haretuku Matheson Williams

Casey Scorpions

Backs J Tynan Panozza Sellar

Half backs L Tynan Macdonald Jetta

Centreline Bail Blease Nicholson

Half forwards Best Smith Page

Forwards Taggert Lang Rodan

Followers Gawn Magner Toumpas

Interchange (from) Barry Boland Corry Hill Hughes Matthews Muir* Nicholls Riseley

* 23rd player

Frankston v Casey Scorpions

Sunday 11th August

Frankston Oval at 11:00AM

Frankston

Backs Tuddenham Beech Sykes

Half backs Edwards Cunningham Newman

Centreline Rolfe Hill Delahunty

Half forwards Gardiner Calvert Giobbi

Forwards Clements Farmer Cooper

Followers Haretuku Bosward Williams

Interchange (from) Bailey Bateman Capiron Fox Kennedy Maynard Morrow Sutton

Casey Scorpions

Backs Riseley Waters Clay

Half backs Corry Gillies Rutherford

Centreline Troutman Pollard Drew

Half forwards Matthews Boland Lang

Forwards Hughes Fowler Petropoulos

Followers Hill Plummer Lindsay

Interchange (from) Anderson Corrigan Fusinato Irwin Jackson Neville Roberts P Rosier Westrupp

[Return to Glory 7,730]

Very tempted to head down the road for that one.

[titan_uranus 22,436]

Ignorance question ahead:

Why is Gillies in the twos? Coming back from injury? Form?

[DeeSpencer 23,179]

Ignorance question ahead:

Why is Gillies in the twos? Coming back from injury? Form?

Form, the fact he (hopefully) has about 4 more games left in his AFL career.

[Whispering_Jack 27,999]

This looms as a danger game for the Casey Scorpions especially with the absence of leading goalkicker Jesse Hogan (rested). With a game next week against the winless Bendigo Gold, Casey would wrap up a top four spot with victory in this match but Frankston will not be easy to beat. The Dolphins are still an outside chance of making the finals and have given some quality sides a run for their money this year. They have wins over Port Melbourne and Collingwood under their belt. They also lost a game to North Ballarat a few weeks ago after losing their score when a count found they had 19 men on the ground.

There are a few Demons who must be very close to breaking back into the team. Strong displays from Magner, Strauss and Tynan this week might force the selectors' hands given our current poor standing in the AFL.

[Jack7 463]

My Godson/Nephew Nick Boland plays for Frankston,brother of Scott who plays for the Bushrangers and I was hoping he'd get first crack at Jesse Hogan,are you sure he's being rested?

Damn!!!

[Nasher 33,068]

I like that Hogan as being rested for finals, just for the clear indication that it means they intend on playing him. Obviously in the past we've seen key players get pulled.

Which other players are eligible for the finals? It would be good to see Fitzpatrick, Clisby et al get the opportunity to play finals since they were strong contributors to Casey's early season form.

[hardtack 10,127]

Form, the fact he (hopefully) has about 4 more games left in his AFL career.

Unnecessarily nasty.

[dee-luded 2,958]

I like that Hogan as being rested for finals, just for the clear indication that it means they intend on playing him. Obviously in the past we've seen key players get pulled.

Which other players are eligible for the finals? It would be good to see Fitzpatrick, Clisby et al get the opportunity to play finals since they were strong contributors to Casey's early season form.

I agree; it sort of sounds lie a shift maybe taking place Re playing our kids in the VFL Finals... I also hope 'the Toump' going back is possibly part of this plan, if correct?

I don't know if he qualifies games wise.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,443]

Tuddenham playing for Frankston. There's a name that brings back memories.

[deanox 8,630]

I did a quick search of the requirements for VFL finals eligibility and found this:

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-118-0-0-0&sID=277333

It seems to say that if you played in the AFL after July 1, you need to have played at least 6 VFL games in the season to be eligible for VFL finals.

Rule 20.7 refers to not played more than 12 AFL matches, but that appears (to me) to refer only to a VFL club that does not field a development league team, which Casey does.

Can anyone confirm this is correct? If it is it appears that any player who has played 6 VFL games will qualify for the VFL fianls regardless of how many AFL games they've played.

If the "no more than 12 games" requirement does apply, it is interesting to note that Jimmy Toumpas and Max Gawn have both played 12 games before being dropped this week (both would have 6 VFL games for the season if they play the year out at Casey, making them eligible for finals), Jack Viney has played 9 games for the MFC (not sure how many VFL games he has or if he could get to 6 to qualify), and Jack Fitzpatrick has 9 MFC games (so could drop back in coming weeks to qualify?). I wouldn't be unhappy if these four played the finals series for Casey, would anyone else?

[CBDees 3,162]

I did a quick search of the requirements for VFL finals eligibility and found this:

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-118-0-0-0&sID=277333

It seems to say that if you played in the AFL after July 1, you need to have played at least 6 VFL games in the season to be eligible for VFL finals.

Rule 20.7 refers to not played more than 12 AFL matches, but that appears (to me) to refer only to a VFL club that does not field a development league team, which Casey does.

Can anyone confirm this is correct? If it is it appears that any player who has played 6 VFL games will qualify for the VFL fianls regardless of how many AFL games they've played.

If the "no more than 12 games" requirement does apply, it is interesting to note that Jimmy Toumpas and Max Gawn have both played 12 games before being dropped this week (both would have 6 VFL games for the season if they play the year out at Casey, making them eligible for finals), Jack Viney has played 9 games for the MFC (not sure how many VFL games he has or if he could get to 6 to qualify), and Jack Fitzpatrick has 9 MFC games (so could drop back in coming weeks to qualify?). I wouldn't be unhappy if these four played the finals series for Casey, would anyone else?

Not problems with me!

[Deespicable 2,548]

I did a quick search of the requirements for VFL finals eligibility and found this:

http://www.sportingpulse.com/assoc_page.cgi?c=1-118-0-0-0&sID=277333

It seems to say that if you played in the AFL after July 1, you need to have played at least 6 VFL games in the season to be eligible for VFL finals.

Rule 20.7 refers to not played more than 12 AFL matches, but that appears (to me) to refer only to a VFL club that does not field a development league team, which Casey does.

Can anyone confirm this is correct? If it is it appears that any player who has played 6 VFL games will qualify for the VFL fianls regardless of how many AFL games they've played.

If the "no more than 12 games" requirement does apply, it is interesting to note that Jimmy Toumpas and Max Gawn have both played 12 games before being dropped this week (both would have 6 VFL games for the season if they play the year out at Casey, making them eligible for finals), Jack Viney has played 9 games for the MFC (not sure how many VFL games he has or if he could get to 6 to qualify), and Jack Fitzpatrick has 9 MFC games (so could drop back in coming weeks to qualify?). I wouldn't be unhappy if these four played the finals series for Casey, would anyone else?

Yes, your interpretation of this seems to be correct. Any player that plays AFL after July 1 must have played six VFL games and no more than 12 AFL games to qualify.

Players who haven't played after July 1 seem to be eligible, provided they have played at least one VFL game and less than 12 AFL games.

All players are eligible to play the first VFL final - provided they are not required in AFL that weekend.

Can someone else confirm whether Casey has a limit of only 12 Melbourne-listed players per game?

Jimmy T has played three VFL games to date - Rds 4, 5 and 8 - primarily because that numbskull Neeld rushed him into the seniors in Rd 1 and then dropped him for the GWS game. He will have to play the next three round in VFL to qualify and I doubt Craigy will keep him out that long.

Jack Viney cannot qualify for VFL and is too good for it anyway.

But Dean Kent, Fitzy, Jake Spencer, Mitch Clisby, Cam Pedersen, Daniel Nicholson and Jordie McKenzie can all still qualify for VFL finals.

The other problem is that in the past we've sent any player with a semblance of an injury off for surgery or an early holiday so they can be back doing pre-season training by early October.

The club hasn't given a stuff about Casey - it would be nice if that changed and we encouraged a winning culture - even if it is only at VFL level.

[La Dee-vina Comedia 16,443]

Yes, your interpretation of this seems to be correct. Any player that plays AFL after July 1 must have played six VFL games and no more than 12 AFL games to qualify.

Players who haven't played after July 1 seem to be eligible, provided they have played at least one VFL game and less than 12 AFL games.

All players are eligible to play the first VFL final - provided they are not required in AFL that weekend.

Can someone else confirm whether Casey has a limit of only 12 Melbourne-listed players per game?

Jimmy T has played three VFL games to date - Rds 4, 5 and 8 - primarily because that numbskull Neeld rushed him into the seniors in Rd 1 and then dropped him for the GWS game. He will have to play the next three round in VFL to qualify and I doubt Craigy will keep him out that long.

Jack Viney cannot qualify for VFL and is too good for it anyway.

But Dean Kent, Fitzy, Jake Spencer, Mitch Clisby, Cam Pedersen, Daniel Nicholson and Jordie McKenzie can all still qualify for VFL finals.

The other problem is that in the past we've sent any player with a semblance of an injury off for surgery or an early holiday so they can be back doing pre-season training by early October.

The club hasn't given a stuff about Casey - it would be nice if that changed and we encouraged a winning culture - even if it is only at VFL level.

I agree. But be prepared for an outpouring of anger if a Melbourne-listed player gets a serious injury while playing finals for Casey.

To pre-empt that I'll just say that injuries happen in pre-season training, too.

[Scipio 5,868]

I don't watch Casey often and when I do I don't pay a whole lot of attention to Davis but I was just interested in whether any of the regular viewers think he could have a run in the middle? Or is he a strictly tall back sort?

[Young Dee 1,303]

I don't watch Casey often and when I do I don't pay a whole lot of attention to Davis but I was just interested in whether any of the regular viewers think he could have a run in the middle? Or is he a strictly tall back sort?

Lets not even go there.

We have been developing him as a back (and sometimes forward) it would be stupid to play him somewhere else - we look stupid enough already.

I am sick of all the potential midfielders that we are playing forward and back etc. - We need mids so lets develop mids (Kent, Taggert, Tynan etc. should be getting full games in the midfield at Casey). If we are to ever improve we need to start finding some diamonds in the rough or should I say stop looking and start making (Sydney).

[Dockett 32 1,213]

I don't watch Casey often and when I do I don't pay a whole lot of attention to Davis but I was just interested in whether any of the regular viewers think he could have a run in the middle? Or is he a strictly tall back sort?

He may be over qualified.

[rjay 23,922]

I don't watch Casey often and when I do I don't pay a whole lot of attention to Davis but I was just interested in whether any of the regular viewers think he could have a run in the middle? Or is he a strictly tall back sort?

I wouldn't think so, he is more the tall back type of player. But nothing surprises 'Django', at least he's hard at the contest.

[Whispering_Jack 27,999]

The VFL RECORD usually publishes a list of players eligible about 2 - 3 weeks before the finals noting those who would become eligible if they were to play out the rest of the season with the VFL aligned club.

Expect that in this or next week's RECORD.

[KC from Casey 6,559]

Sunny with a swirly wind here at Frankston Oval. Frankston Development League team overran Casey Scorpions in the final term to win by 25 points.

2013 AFL Victoria Development League

Casey Scorpions 2.3.15 4.4.28 9.7.61 9.8.62

Frankston 2.214 5.6.36 6.7.43 12.15.87

Goals

Casey Scorpions Anderson Lindsay 2 Hughes Petropoulos Plummer P Rosier Troutman

Frankston Bosward Giobbi Morrow 2 Bailey Cooper Haretuku Kennedy Rolfe Sykes

Best

Casey Scorpions Lindsay Waters Roberts Fowler Petropoulos Rosier

Frankston Haretuku Bosward Cooper Cunningham Rolfe Sykes

[KC from Casey 6,559]

First blood to the home team after a ruck infringement against Max Gawn.

Frankston 1.0.6 Casey 0.0.0.

[KC from Casey 6,559]

Scorps level with a goal from a nice mark in front from James Magner.

[KC from Casey 6,559]

Goal to the Dolphins puts them in front 12 - 7 after 17 minutes. They're kicking with the wind.

[deanox 8,630]

Hoping for big games from Blease, Gawn, Magner and Toumpas to put some pressure on for spots.

Also, really hoping the Scorps can nail this one without a couple of key players (Hogan and Spencer et al) to set up a big finals campaign.

[KC from Casey 6,559]

Mark and goal to Kyle Matthews gives Casey the lead by a point moments before the siren.

Casey Scorpions 2.2.14 to Frankston 2.1.13.