Sponsors - has the tanking investigation hit?

[hoopla 418]

A couple of posts on the tanking thread suggest that Betezy, Drake and Metro Energy have just withdrawn their financial support ....presumably because our integrity has been called into question.

I note that none of these names appear on the homepage of our website any more - and that there is a conspicuous empty space in the sponsors box in the bottom right corner.At the AGM we were told that we were budgeting for an operating profit for the coming year.I wonder if these sponsors were factored into that result ( and if operating profit is before or after legal fees)

Does anyone know the status of our discussions with current and future sponsors?

[Dr. Gonzo 24,457]

They've resorted to sending out emails to Foundation Heroes in the hope some supporters may be able to bail them out with sponsors as they have previously so I'm not too confident of their abilities to attract even lower level sponsors let alone retain them. If that is the case this year and we make a loss Schwab has to go regardless of the external factors which may have made his job difficult.

[Little Goffy 14,791]

lol... took one post before a 'Schwab has to go' comment.

Man with maybe the second toughest business-side job in AFL (after Port CEO), gets trolled all day, can't say I envy him.

[7-UP 107]

Hope we are not the the team ACC investigating for match fixing ?

[Whispering_Jack 31,267]

Hope we are not the the team ACC investigating for match fixing ?

Hardly think so.

Most of our results in recent years have been fairly predictable and even the games the media seems to focus on in the context of the tanking allegations were games we were expected to lose anyway.

[Grimes is Great 183]

People are entitled to their opinion on Schwab.

When and if we get back on track on field then he may start to receive praise on these boards.

Until then.....

[CBDees 3,167]

I don't mind Schwab at all. I think that he cannot be soley blamed if sponsors choose to leave. As he said at the AGM, the Board has a formula for sponsor levels and what/where they are acknowledged and we would be foolish to lower the bar. I am sure that it is the same at other Clubs. The drop-off in sponsors is directly related to the number of games we (fail to) win. You only have to look at the successful clubs vs bottom-dwellers to see who the sponsors gravitate towards. This is even more so in Victoria where we have nine Melbourne-based Clubs all clambering for a piece of the same pie! Start winning games and the sponsors will be back!

[Moonshadow 17,678]

People are entitled to their opinion on Schwab.

When and if we get back on track on field then he may start to receive praise on these boards.

Until then.....

What a dumb comment. How is CS responsible for for our on field performance? Is he playing on the wing now?

[Pates 9,686]

What a dumb comment. How is CS responsible for for our on field performance? Is he playing on the wing now?

No but his job is to make us financially successful, and the very simple fact is his job is made a lot tougher when the team isn't performing well and winning games. And on the topic of discussion, yes I have no doubt this tanking saga has hurt our sponsorship. Don essentially said that in his speech.

If we are to be obsolved of any wrong doing whether down the track through court, or next week we should certainly be looking for compensation.

[Tyson4Brownlow 154]

Amazes me how little people on this forum know about the business of sport. Sponsorships are sought after by a Sponsorship Manager, and the CEO does not attend any of the meetings until its pen to paper time. Also, most deals are not renewed due to the sponsor companies budget constraints, or if the premise of the deal had been, such as brand recognition in a new market. Deals are signed for one or two years with both parties knowing their will be no renewal at contract end.

Enough with the sensationalism sack CS bs, people around her bag Caroline Wilson for being a drama queen and then follow in her very footsteps

[beelzebub 23,390]

Wheels on the bus go round and round..

[mjt 640]

Wheels on the bus go round and round..

Yeah and the sponsors keep getting off at every stop.

[Pink Freud 378]

Yeah and the sponsors keep getting off at every stop.

And based on the information from the AGM they get replaced by sponsors who will pay more.

Do you have a problem with that little man?

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

And based on the information from the AGM they get replaced by sponsors who will pay more.

Do you have a problem with that little man?

Yes he has problems.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,457]

The fact is this has been a theme of the current admins tenure though. I think it's fair to hold the CEO to account for that. I'm not a Schwab "hater" by any means but there has to be some accountability for the role. Whether he is directly involved in sourcing sponsors is irrelevant as the buck stops with him as the CEO. It's not about just wanting to see him gone for the sake of it but how long does he get when we continue to face the same issues year in, year out.

Our on-field situation doesn't help of course but you can't keep using that as a cop-out.

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

I know nothing of sponsorships for sporting teams. At a guess I would say years of losing, low crowd numbers and not a huge membership base make it as hard or harder to find sponsorships then one investigation into something that happened didn't happen years ago. In these financial times it would be a damn hard job to acquire long terms sponsors. We found sponsors last year after losing Energy Watch so let's have some faith if possible.

[farmerwiz 60]

i think schwab has done an admirable job and the facts back that up

the sponsors and tanking is a huge worry tho, its a couple of mill of dollars / sponsors we are short atm

[mjt 640]

And based on the information from the AGM they get replaced by sponsors who will pay more.

Do you have a problem with that little man?

Lets wait to round 1 .

[Striker475 696]

Hrm...maybe it's time to start to nudge Dad along the path...he thought about it a couple of years ago...

[dee-luded 2,959]

A couple of posts on the tanking thread suggest that Betezy, Drake and Metro Energy have just withdrawn their financial support ....presumably because our integrity has been called into question.

I note that none of these names appear on the homepage of our website any more - and that there is a conspicuous empty space in the sponsors box in the bottom right corner.At the AGM we were told that we were budgeting for an operating profit for the coming year.I wonder if these sponsors were factored into that result ( and if operating profit is before or after legal fees)

Does anyone know the status of our discussions with current and future sponsors?

your political faction is being seen & recognised for making trouble and trying to unsettle the support from supporters.

When our club, requieres being settled & all pulling the weight together.

[GM11 787]

A couple of posts on the tanking thread suggest that Betezy, Drake and Metro Energy have just withdrawn their financial support ....presumably because our integrity has been called into question.

I note that none of these names appear on the homepage of our website any more - and that there is a conspicuous empty space in the sponsors box in the bottom right corner.At the AGM we were told that we were budgeting for an operating profit for the coming year.I wonder if these sponsors were factored into that result ( and if operating profit is before or after legal fees)

Does anyone know the status of our discussions with current and future sponsors?

Withdrawn or not renewed? Big difference.

[Cards13 9,117]

Hrm...maybe it's time to start to nudge Dad along the path...he thought about it a couple of years ago...

Please provide a detailed run down of all interactions so we can be judge jury and executioner on Schwab and the club in the sponsorship space!!!

[CBDees 3,167]

As Schwab said at the AGM, the Club has some feelers out for Chinese organisations seeking to expand into OZ, similar to the LG sponsorship some years back! These things take time, especially when dealing with the inscrutable Chinese.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,457]

As Schwab said at the AGM, the Club has some feelers out for Chinese organisations seeking to expand into OZ, similar to the LG sponsorship some years back! These things take time, especially when dealing with the inscrutable Chinese.

Not saying it's not true, but I'll believe it when I see it.

[Six6Six 1,507]

A couple of posts on the tanking thread suggest that Betezy, Drake and Metro Energy have just withdrawn their financial support ....presumably because our integrity has been called into question.

These 3 sponsors are no longer on the web site but Metro Solar is still on the training shorts. It must be an expense to the club to replace gear to remove the sponsors logo. Given we are only a week away from NAB cup will the club have to remove Metro from the match day strip or will Metro get some lag publicity.

Sponsors on the strip => http://www.smugmug.com/gallery/27976940_WDtpsP