"Tanking"

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

The delay could also be in relation to seeking clarification from verious stakeholders such as gaming commission and sponsors as to how particular finding would impact the club to determin out willingness to accept them.

[Sir Why You Little 37,302]

You blokes need to take your blinkers off and realise that if that is the outcome 1) we would have negotiated for it and 2) we should take it and run. It might make you feel good short-term but it would be utterly irresponsible of the club to waste resources fighting that and if the current admin did (which I do not believe they will at all) they should be out on their arses. Realise you need to take a pragmatic approach and all the huffing and puffing about court action would have been for the sole purpose of getting this outcome (should it eventuate). Suspended sentences and a short time in the sin bin for DB & CC and a small fine for the club (we could knock it off in one night of fundraising) would be an outstanding outcome compared to what might have been (banishment from early rounds of multiple drafts). It's not ideal, of course we'd all like to get off completely, but given the circumstances I would mark that outcome down as a win and get on with moving the club forward and letting Neeld get on with the footy.

I know what you think Dr. G....If the club rolls over to these charges they have had their last membership from me.

We Fight as the President stated....

[dee-luded 2,959]

You blokes need to take your blinkers off and realise that if that is the outcome 1) we would have negotiated for it and 2) we should take it and run. It might make you feel good short-term but it would be utterly irresponsible of the club to waste resources fighting that and if the current admin did (which I do not believe they will at all) they should be out on their arses. Realise you need to take a pragmatic approach and all the huffing and puffing about court action would have been for the sole purpose of getting this outcome (should it eventuate). Suspended sentences and a short time in the sin bin for DB & CC and a small fine for the club (we could knock it off in one night of fundraising) would be an outstanding outcome compared to what might have been (banishment from early rounds of multiple drafts). It's not ideal, of course we'd all like to get off completely, but given the circumstances I would mark that outcome down as a win and get on with moving the club forward and letting Neeld get on with the footy.

I think the AFL have measured their finding & penalty to make it awkward for us to fight, as the fight would cost more than the penalty in money terms.

They are desperate for a club to carry the moral burden of their #()ck Up... The AFL Commission didn't instigate tanking in the game & then condone it.

Rubbish they didn't!

I want to find out what is to become of Connolls, from the club.

[Sir Why You Little 37,302]

It does nothing of the sort - you don't even know what the specifics of the findings might be but I can guarantee the club would not be found guilty of "tanking" or "match-fixing".

Kill the club is hyperbole to the extreme - what would kill the club is taking on city hall in a protracted court case when we would be trying to get off on technicalities. This outcome will have minimal to no effect on sponsorship but continued negative publicity due to a court case definitely would.

Do you think our President's words could have been chosen to have the effect of ensuring the penalties on the club and individuals would be minimal? It's bluster to scare the AFL into thinking we will do it - it's no use having nuclear bombs if no-one thinks you will use them but you'd be utterly insane to.

Pull Down those strides Dr. G....stand in the corner & await your punishment....Fumbling the ball....a legiimate charge hey.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I can't find anything official on the AFL site!

Is this nothing more than CWilson leading with another cheap shot?

[Dr. Gonzo 24,438]

I know what you think Dr. G....If the club rolls over to these charges they have had their last membership from me.

We Fight as the President stated....

We'll see. If those are the penalties I guarantee you we won't take it to court.

Ironic how you talk about fighting to the end and then say you won't buy another membership if they make a decision you disagree with...

Pull Down those strides Dr. G....stand in the corner & await your punishment....Fumbling the ball....a legiimate charge hey.

Have you seen/read the investigation report given to the club? If not I'd like to know how you know "fumbling the ball" made up a key, if any, component of the AFL's findings against us.

I'm not having a go at you WYL, you're a loyal Demon and we need plenty more like you. I'm just trying to show that, while not preferable, being pragmatic about the situation the club would do well to just put this behind us with minimal penalties and get on with focusing the entire club on winning games of footy.

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

I'm starting to get really frustrated from 7 months of a investigation and 7 months of garbage opinions of some in the media. Fair dinkum 7 months! It takes 9 months to create human life it should not take nearly just as long to investigate a allegation. I'll say it again FAIR DINKUM!

[pantaloons 2,019]

If while holidaying in Saudi Arabia I become embroiled in a case of mistaken identity and end up facing the death penalty for a murder I didn't commit, but manage to negotiate my way to paying a fine instead and having a bit of a stain on my criminal record, I take it and get the hell out of there.

[Gorgoroth 13,184]

I say we embrace the "tankers" label and paint one red and blue and drive in the MCG and park it in that ramp area and shoot the cannon each time we kick a goal, razzle dazzle and all that stuff.

Could even shoot caro dolls out of the cannon

[Muvver Jones 64]

I know what you think Dr. G....If the club rolls over to these charges they have had their last membership from me.

We Fight as the President stated....

You can walk away forever or enjoy crow for lunch for a while. It may taste better if we start winning. As for DM he's just a [censored].

[Gorgoroth 13,184]

Breaking news, going to be announced at end of first nab cup game.....

[bush demon 2,162]

It's difficult to say who has come out ahead if we look at the big picture. GWS gave away $5m for TS who cost us $500,000 not to get. TS would be one of the winners on $25,000 a kick I would say. Essendon may have to negotiate right through the home and aways before the AFL judiciary eases up on the straight re their case.

[45HG 1,559]

If while holidaying in Saudi Arabia I become embroiled in a case of mistaken identity and end up facing the death penalty for a murder I didn't commit, but manage to negotiate my way to paying a fine instead and having a bit of a stain on my criminal record, I take it and get the hell out of there.

We should quit the AFL?!?

[pantaloons 2,019]

We should quit the AFL?!?

Ha! Let's just assume planet Earth is the AFL in this analogy. I didn't spend long thinking it up. Clearly.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I say we embrace the "tankers" label and paint one red and blue and drive in the MCG and park it in that ramp area and shoot the cannon each time we kick a goal, razzle dazzle and all that stuff.

Could even shoot caro dolls out of the cannon

Hmm, blow up caro dolls.

What would we do with them.

Could we bring darts with us?

Lety out all that hot air. Probably mostly methane, but nothings perfect?

[dee-luded 2,959]

Breaking news, going to be announced at end of first nab cup game.....

Get ready for a stoush!

[Gorgoroth 13,184]

Well Dunstall first said fines, then said sanctions then said findings...... S he slipped twice

[Sir Why You Little 37,302]

We'll see. If those are the penalties I guarantee you we won't take it to court.

Ironic how you talk about fighting to the end and then say you won't buy another membership if they make a decision you disagree with...

Have you seen/read the investigation report given to the club? If not I'd like to know how you know "fumbling the ball" made up a key, if any, component of the AFL's findings against us.

I'm not having a go at you WYL, you're a loyal Demon and we need plenty more like you. I'm just trying to show that, while not preferable, being pragmatic about the situation the club would do well to just put this behind us with minimal penalties and get on with focusing the entire club on winning games of footy.

Those charges deserve to be fought....that is all i can say...if we do not do it, then the club will remain fractured....now is the time to stand.

[Pates 9,667]

I know what you think Dr. G....If the club rolls over to these charges they have had their last membership from me.

We Fight as the President stated....

I get what you're saying mate, I really do. But I think the reality of the situation is that while fighting (something I will back the club 100% if it comes to it) will probably hurt the club with it being played out for so long and so publicly. If there is a way to come out of this with a fine that we can cop and no loss of draft picks then I believe we should accept it and move on. The best thing for the club is to get this done once and for all.

The massive key is that we don't get done for tanking or engaging in match fixing. Because the ramifications of that with the gaming commission would be disastrous.

Edited February 15, 2013 by Pates

[Dr. Gonzo 24,438]

Tune into Fox Footy if you're not already, apparently they're gonna discuss some "breaking news" after this game.

Though the media being what it is I wouldn't hold my breath it's more than what was in Caro's article.

[hardtack 10,851]

Yes, they just mentioned they will be having something about the "tanking affair" in the next few minutes.

[Robot Devil 1,895]

Tune into Fox Footy if you're not already, apparently they're gonna discuss some "breaking news" after this game.

Though the media being what it is I wouldn't hold my breath it's more than what was in Caro's article.

Could someone keep the poor people like myself (who don't have Fox Footy or even Foxtel for that matter) updated?

Cheers.

[Gorgoroth 13,184]

Could someone keep the poor people like myself (who don't have Fox Footy or even Foxtel for that matter) updated?

Cheers.

I think a few of us will post what is said.

[Jarka 767]

$500k fine apparently

[hardtack 10,851]

Paraphrasing very quickly what was said, but here it is:

Mentioned CW's latest article and her assumed penalties.

Robbo spoke to AD on phone a short while ago and claims to have no knowledge of any penalties.