What does Mitch Morton's improvement say?

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

don't compare home & away with weeks 3 & 4 of finals. Yes he played a role but he did it 2 weeks running under big pressure.

No, he got a game because McGlynn was injured and couldn't play.

[45HG 1,558]

don't compare home & away with weeks 3 & 4 of finals. Yes he played a role but he did it 2 weeks running under big pressure.

I'll compare whatever I like, thank you.

It's moronic to think that nothing of the regular season can be used as a marker for finals - but no doubt you'll claim it again.

[Sir Why You Little 37,054]

No, he got a game because McGlynn was injured and couldn't play.

yes but he took it and did well

[Sir Why You Little 37,054]

I'll compare whatever I like, thank you.

It's moronic to think that nothing of the regular season can be used as a marker for finals - but no doubt you'll claim it again.

never said nothing of the reguliar season can be counted.

But finals are a new season.

[45HG 1,558]

never said nothing of the reguliar season can be counted.

But finals are a new season.

The thread is saying that he improved.

I said that he hasn't done anything other than what he always has. You challenged me to say not to compare regular season with finals. I said it'd be foolish to ignore the regular season when considering finals. You're now saying you never said the regular season cannot be counted.

As usual, this does not compute.

I maintain he played the same way he has shown throughout his career. He played a role yesterday due to circumstances outside of his control.

[Sir Why You Little 37,054]

The thread is saying that he improved.

I said that he hasn't done anything other than what he always has. You challenged me to say not to compare regular season with finals. I said it'd be foolish to ignore the regular season when considering finals. You're now saying you never said the regular season cannot be counted.

As usual, this does not compute.

I maintain he played the same way he has shown throughout his career. He played a role yesterday due to circumstances outside of his control.

yes. And i am saying it is much harder to play that same role during Prelims & Grannies.

It is a different Game.

He may have been lucky to play the Prelim, but he earnt his spot to play the GF.

Played well yesterday as well.

I just reckon he deserves a little more respect.

That long goal to the city end was a cracker.

[dee-luded 2,959]

The thread is saying that he improved.

I said that he hasn't done anything other than what he always has. You challenged me to say not to compare regular season with finals. I said it'd be foolish to ignore the regular season when considering finals. You're now saying you never said the regular season cannot be counted.

As usual, this does not compute.

I maintain he played the same way he has shown throughout his career. He played a role yesterday due to circumstances outside of his control.

One of the Swans players said a couple of weeks ago that he had to do some work to show he could be counted on. He did & proved worthy of promotion.

He got called up in a recent game & they were happy with his work.

He was kept in the squad for the finals & Grand Final. Thats strong praise in a side like Sydney.

I don't understand the semantics?

[45HG 1,558]

I don't understand the semantics?

I don't understand why you follow WYL around like a puppy dog, but anyway.

It's not semantics at all. It's a disagreement about a fundamental aspect of the thread - that he has improved. I don't particularly think he has improved his footy. What I saw on the weekend I've seen from him before. Perhaps he's changed behind the scenes and 1%er aspects of his game that really only those at the club could state. But, really, his marking and goal-kicking are nothing new.

My disagreement also stems around the argument that often comes up about players who "will never be a premiership player." If a player is skilful enough to play AFL and can fill a role in a side, he can be a premiership player in the right side.

I don't think that if Mcglynn had have played, Morton would've. He didn't do the work and get given the spot ahead of Mcglynn, poor Ben got injured. This is not a knock on Morton, this is not showing him any disrespect. He was not Swans best 22 for most of the year and the footy I saw from him when he did come in wasn't much different to what I'd have expected him to do.

Not semantics at all.

[Nasher 33,616]

Everyone knew Morton had talent. He kicked 41 goals one year at Richmond on the back of 35 the previous year. He had to work hard on the defensive side of his game and finally got an opportunity late in the season.

There's nothing terribly eye-opening. He's finally started to do the things expected of an AFL player at his third club. To get a consistent game at Sydney you must adhere to their non-negotiables. It's been harder to get a game at Melbourne this year too.

Exactly. He said post-match that he got a wakeup call from his teammates mid year. This is his third club and in half way through his 8th season in the system he shows signs that he might finally get it.

Even then, my money is on the wheels falling off sooner or later. I don't have a lot of faith in guys who have shown traits of extreme laziness in the past. For every Steve Johnsons who turns it around permanently there's heaps of Adam Heuskes and Travis Johnstones and Nick Davises who just can't sustain the effort for any longer than a year or two.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I don't understand why you follow WYL around like a puppy dog, but anyway.

It's not semantics at all. It's a disagreement about a fundamental aspect of the thread - that he has improved. I don't particularly think he has improved his footy. What I saw on the weekend I've seen from him before. Perhaps he's changed behind the scenes and 1%er aspects of his game that really only those at the club could state. But, really, his marking and goal-kicking are nothing new.

My disagreement also stems around the argument that often comes up about players who "will never be a premiership player." If a player is skilful enough to play AFL and can fill a role in a side, he can be a premiership player in the right side.

I don't think that if Mcglynn had have played, Morton would've. He didn't do the work and get given the spot ahead of Mcglynn, poor Ben got injured. This is not a knock on Morton, this is not showing him any disrespect. He was not Swans best 22 for most of the year and the footy I saw from him when he did come in wasn't much different to what I'd have expected him to do.

Not semantics at all.

Hahaha, a puppy dog. You've got a problem mate, & I think it stems from you not liking others having different views to your own.

I like WYL, he's honest & you always know how he thinks on an issue. He's heart & soul. Maybe not always right, but always honest & UpFront.

I like to support whoever I think is worth supporting. And so I do.

LoL, puppy dog, 'gherrr'.

[Sir Why You Little 37,054]

I don't understand why you follow WYL around like a puppy dog, but anyway.

It's not semantics at all. It's a disagreement about a fundamental aspect of the thread - that he has improved. I don't particularly think he has improved his footy. What I saw on the weekend I've seen from him before. Perhaps he's changed behind the scenes and 1%er aspects of his game that really only those at the club could state. But, really, his marking and goal-kicking are nothing new.

My disagreement also stems around the argument that often comes up about players who "will never be a premiership player." If a player is skilful enough to play AFL and can fill a role in a side, he can be a premiership player in the right side.

I don't think that if Mcglynn had have played, Morton would've. He didn't do the work and get given the spot ahead of Mcglynn, poor Ben got injured. This is not a knock on Morton, this is not showing him any disrespect. He was not Swans best 22 for most of the year and the footy I saw from him when he did come in wasn't much different to what I'd have expected him to do.

Not semantics at all.

your a tough marker 45. Real tough.

Can we agree that the intensity of Prelim Finals & GF Football is ramped up tenfold on the home & away footy?

[Demon trucker 1,800]

He played a average game if they lost then there would be no topic here

[Norm Smith's Curse 2,602]

Ok guys you got me - i was just looking for something to talk about

[45HG 1,558]

your a tough marker 45. Real tough.

Can we agree that the intensity of Prelim Finals & GF Football is ramped up tenfold on the home & away footy?

Obviously prelims and GFs are tougher than regular season games - but I think essentially all tougher games end up doing is put the magnifying glass on what players do regularly anyway. They just have to be able to it as a natural instinct under greater pressure.

Morton played 3 finals for a combined total of 33 kicks, 15 handballs and 9 marks. He had 15 tackles and kicked four goals. He was reasonably lively and pretty dangerous without being brilliant. Pretty much how I remember him as a W.C./Richmond player.

[Sir Why You Little 37,054]

They just have to be able to it as a natural instinct under greater pressure.

spot on mate..& loads of players in Mitch's position have gone to water.

Morton didn't. He stood up and should be proud of his work.

[DemonOX 8,791]

Sydney have what MFC dont unfortunately. Hopefully that will change SOON.

[John Crow Batty 8,871]

A rat who lives in the granery grows strong, fat and sleek. Brother rat who lives in the sewer is destined to be a miserable scrawny creature.

Edited September 30, 2012 by america de cali

[Dee Fan 3,247]

A rat who lives in the granery grows strong, fat and sleek. Brother rat who lives in the sewer is a

miserable scrawny creature.

The rat living in the granary gets fat and lazy, the rat that lives in the sewer gets tough because he has to fight for what he gets or he dies.

[Sir Why You Little 37,054]

The rat living in the granary gets fat and lazy, the rat that lives in the sewer gets tough because he has to fight for what he gets or he dies.

^^^ this.

[John Crow Batty 8,871]

The rat living in the granary gets fat and lazy, the rat that lives in the sewer gets tough because he has to fight for what he gets or he dies.

they usually die

[John Crow Batty 8,871]

Okay, Cale will be a premiership player for us.

[McQueen 17,865]

Like the way he made mention of forward defensive pressure was the only thing that was keeping him out of the firsts.

Funny how in today's game if you're a forward and only kick 1 behind but lay 7 tackles in a game the coach is happy enough to play you the following week.

Looking back on our season, I'm contented that Neeld drilled this into the players as a non-negotiable.

One percenters are still king.

[John Crow Batty 8,871]

Like the way he made mention of forward defensive pressure was the only thing that was keeping him out of the firsts.

Funny how in today's game if you're a forward and only kick 1 behind but lay 7 tackles in a game the coach is happy enough to play you the following week.

Looking back on our season, I'm contented that Neeld drilled this into the players as a non-negotiable.

One percenters are still king.

Sadly, 1%er's from our players have been very few this season. Perhaps he is drilling in the wrong places.

[McQueen 17,865]

Sadly, 1%er's from our players have been very few this season. Perhaps he is drilling in the wrong places.

There is work to do, no doubt.

[darkhorse72 1,920]

Mitch form int he 2nd was great from what i heard, kicking bags or 9 and 10 on more than one occasion. And to those that said he would not have played if player X was playing that is true. But he was chosen ahead of about 20 other blokes for that spot in the GF team. He earned it over the year and fought for a place in the side.

Some people forget grand final sides are not made full of stars. You look at most, have 2/3 great players and a great supporting cast of whom many would be average no different than the other 17 sides in the comp. But they play a role and sometimes have a day out. Its about the team and individual brilliance is the icing on the cake.