MFC - Where are we honestly at

[Josh 1,420]

Considering our start to the year i think things are gonna get worse around here before they get better. But what is a pass mark for us this year? As far as im concerned because we are on the up anything better than last year is a pass, ill be happy if we miss finals by a game or 2, and over the moon if we make finals.

[Hannibal 5,814]

"MFC - Where are we honestly at ?"

Our senior players are arguably the worst in the competition. There's not an A grader in this batch: Green, Sylvia, Moloney, Bartram, Dunn, Bate, Davey, Rivers. They don't lead the way and they don't regularly influence games. How does our top 6 players compare to the better sides in the competition ? You become a top 6 player when you regularly influence games. We have a dearth of top end talent.

Top 20 draft picks from the last 5 years that were going to be the cornerstone of our rise up the ladder that didn't play last night ... Watts, Grimes, Morton, Gysberts, Tapscott, Strauss, Cook, plus you know who. That's a third of the side. Our best player last night was a top 20 pick from another club.

What do you get when you cross arguably the worst group of senior players in the league with a crop of first choice draft picks that are sitting on the sidelines ? Demonland in meltdown.

I like Mark Neeld. His style doesn't suit everyone, but I believe in him and his game-plan. I'm confident that he'll sort the wheat from the chaff. Neeld's game-plan isn't complex, but it does require getting your hands dirty. My very late Great Grand Father apparently often said, "an ounce of action is worth a tonne of theory". But with respect to my Great Grand Father, I say "you can't make chicken salad from chicken sh*t". Sweat will only get you so far. We need talented footballers. Talent plus action = success.

We'll know soon enough who's up for the challenge. I've been a critic, but Nathan Jones is leading the way. Blease and Trengove will be better for the minutes. I still have faith in this coaching panel to develop many of the other young players that didn't suit up last night. And something tells me that James Magner won't die wondering.

The future rests with the club's ability to develop Watts, Trengove, Grimes, Gysberts, Tapscott, Blease, and Strauss. I'm still confident we'll make tangible in-roads in the year ahead.

[rjay 25,307]

"MFC - Where are we honestly at ?"

Our senior players are arguably the worst in the competition. There's not an A grader in this batch: Green, Sylvia, Moloney, Bartram, Dunn, Bate, Davey, Rivers. They don't lead the way and they don't regularly influence games. How does our top 6 players compare to the better sides in the competition ? You become a top 6 player when you regularly influence games. We have a dearth of top end talent.

Top 20 draft picks from the last 5 years that were going to be the cornerstone of our rise up the ladder that didn't play last night ... Watts, Grimes, Morton, Gysberts, Tapscott, Strauss, Cook, plus you know who. That's a third of the side. Our best player last night was a top 20 pick from another club.

What do you get when you cross arguably the worst group of senior players in the league with a crop of first choice draft picks that are sitting on the sidelines ? Demonland in meltdown.

I like Mark Neeld. His style doesn't suit everyone, but I believe in him and his game-plan. I'm confident that he'll sort the wheat from the chaff. Neeld's game-plan isn't complex, but it does require getting your hands dirty. My very late Great Grand Father apparently often said, "an ounce of action is worth a tonne of theory". But with respect to my Great Grand Father, I say "you can't make chicken salad from chicken sh*t". Sweat will only get you so far. We need talented footballers. Talent plus action = success.

We'll know soon enough who's up for the challenge. I've been a critic, but Nathan Jones is leading the way. Blease and Trengove will be better for the minutes. I still have faith in this coaching panel to develop many of the other young players that didn't suit up last night. And something tells me that James Magner won't die wondering.

The future rests with the club's ability to develop Watts, Trengove, Grimes, Gysberts, Tapscott, Blease, and Strauss. I'm still confident we'll make tangible in-roads in the year ahead.

Agreed the senior players have a lot to answer for. I can still visualise times when Watts in his first couple of seasons was in good position being ignored by a senior teammate who burned him, was it incompetance, ingnorance, jealousy, playing for themselves. It certainly wasn't the action of senior players who had the interests of the team and the development of younger players at heart. If a player keeps presenting and gets burned often enough then it's no wonder he may start to think it's not a worthwhile endevour and after a while his work ratewill be questioned.

[Guest Dr Who]

We clearly have a proportion of our supported base that fails to understand the reality of modern day football. (They clearly are stuck in another era)

AFL football has moved forward very, very quickly in the last 4-5 years and many just dont understand how far back we are coming from. Such is life.

They monotonously continually address the symptoms and display a ignorance of the real cause. Their negativity will "eat" them - but it does provide enjoyable light reading.

[DemonDing 56]

Enjoy Barry Prendergast Carlton you too might be lucky enough to have ur very own watts and Morton...

[Redleg 41,952]

Add to that the fact that we are one of the worst teams at kicking in the AFL. We simply do not have enough players that

can kick to a level that allows us to keep the ball and damage sides with it.

2 - Footskills. Whether we need to draft guys who know how to hit a feggin' moving target, or trade for some elite kickers from other clubs,

I dont care. Just get them in. If Neeld wants us to be the strongest team at the contest and to win the footy, we need guys who can use the thing.

It's absolutely disgusting watching us kick. Garland, Rivers, Bartram, Frawley at times. It's comedy back there at times. Absolute comedy.

Ah, disposal, my hobby horse.

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

I hope the MFC hit rock bottom tonight. Yes it was a practise match, thankfully.

Port Adelaide are rubbish & so are we.

$cully used us as a stepping stone.

We say nothing. Eddie manipulates us last week. We say nothing.

This week we gave out Blazers & felt good.

But on the park we are a joke.

I am glad Neeld & Neil Craig have no connection to this club. They work here. For that they can say whatever they like.

The MFC deserves every word it gets right now.

I don't want to hear about history ANYMORE.

I want the future.

Our history has retarded us. The Red Fox has died. Read the book.

Rip this joint apart Neeld & Craig. You will be revered.

Now that's a cracking post. Probably the best I have read on here in my short time. Couldn't agree more.

[Lordweaver 235]

pretty ordinary, Jamar wins in the ruck and we still get smashed. Sylvia injured is not a bad thing, suggest we slot Magner in there. Yes we got jumped early but we still couldn't get back in the game with Port leading 4 goals in the first, 4g3 in the second, 5g5 in the third and 8 g 4 in the 4th. Did we run out og legs or the will to fight the game out?

[whatwhat say what 23,451]

before the preseason started, i thought melbourne would be in the mix for positions 10-14 come close of the year.

i now struggle to see how we'll be higher than 14, more likely 16 or so.

but i'm okay with that - the players have to learn a new game plan, and ultimately i think they will be better for another tough year followed by a solid period of quality play in 2 years time (ah, that old chestnut again!).

if we activate the two compo picks - as I expect we will - then we're looking at having access to more high quality players at the end of the year, which is exactly what we require. one thing i've been banging on about for a while now is that our best players all seem to come from the rookie list - you cannot expect to compete with the best teams in the competition if your high draft picks prove to be not up to it, either through their own application or - i think more likely - inadequate development.

bailey was an awful coach - he has taken us backwards over the course of the last four years. the skills of the players are abysmal, and with neeld's gameplan they require excellent execution, which is just not going to happen overnight.

[Hells Gates 505]

As somebody mentioned, Adelaide have no problems with their game plan. I'm sick of people making up the same excuses. And if we were trialling things, then it still doesn't excuse our rubbish and always pathetic disposal and lack of desire for the footy and contest. Winning is an instinct, but not at this club. Winning form is good form and winning gets you more members and profitable sponsors. This team has no ambition or desire no matter which was you try to twist it. Stop frigging making excuses.

[daisycutter 29,892]

H O P E (take your pick, a choice for all tastes)

Where hope would otherwise become hopelessness, it becomes faith. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Hope, deceitful as it is, serves at least to lead us to the end of our lives by an agreeable route. ~François Duc de La Rochefoucauld

Once you choose hope, anything's possible. ~Christopher Reeve

Hope is the only universal liar who never loses his reputation for veracity. ~Robert G. Ingersoll

Things which you do not hope happen more frequently than things which you do hope. ~Titus Maccius Plautus

Hope is some extraordinary spiritual grace that God gives us to control our fears, not to oust them. ~Vincent McNabb

In reality, hope is the worst of all evils, because it prolongs man's torments. ~Friedrich Nietzsche,Human, All Too Human, 1878

When the world says, "Give up," Hope whispers, "Try it one more time." ~Author Unknown

There is nothing so well known as that we should not expect something for nothing - but we all do and call it Hope. ~Edgar Howe

If you knew that hope and despair were paths to the same destination, which would you choose? ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Hope itself is a species of happiness, and, perhaps, the chief happiness which this world affords; but, like all other pleasures immoderately enjoyed, the excesses of hope must be expiated by pain. ~Samuel Johnson

Hope is that thing with feathers that perches in the soul and sings the tune without the words and never stops... at all. ~Emily Dickinson

Hope begins in the dark, the stubborn hope that if you just show up and try to do the right thing, the dawn will come. ~Anne Lamott

The wings of hope carry us, soaring high above the driving winds of life. ~Ana Jacob

All it takes is one bloom of hope to make a spiritual garden. ~Terri Guillemets

The miserable have no other medicine But only hope. ~William Shakespeare, Measure for Measure

The road that is built in hope is more pleasant to the traveler than the road built in despair, even though they both lead to the same destination. ~Marian Zimmer Bradley

You've gotta have hope. Without hope life is meaningless. Without hope life is meaning less and less. ~Author Unknown

Hope is the feeling we have that the feeling we have is not permanent. ~Mignon McLaughlin, The Neurotic's Notebook, 1960

Lord save us all from... a hope tree that has lost the faculty of putting out blossoms. ~Mark Twain

Hope is faith holding out its hand in the dark. ~George Iles

When hope is hungry, everything feeds it. ~Mignon McLaughlin, The Neurotic's Notebook, 1960

Hope is putting faith to work when doubting would be easier. ~Author Unknown

If one truly has lost hope, one would not be on hand to say so. ~Eric Bentley

It is the first purpose of hope to make hopelessness bearable. ~Robert Brault,www.robertbrault.com

The sudden disappointment of a hope leaves a scar which the ultimate fulfillment of that hope never entirely removes. ~Thomas Hardy

Hope is independent of the apparatus of logic. ~Norman Cousins

Sanity may be madness but the maddest of all is to see life as it is and not as it should be. ~Don Quixote

Hope is necessary in every condition. The miseries of poverty, sickness, of captivity, would, without this comfort, be insupportable. ~Samuel Johnson

It's all one thing - both tend into one scope - To live upon Tobacco and on Hope, The one's but smoke, the other is but wind. ~Sir Robert Aytoun of Kincaldie, "Sonnet on Tobacco"

Hope is the physician of each misery. ~Irish Proverb

God sends the dawn that we might see the might-have-beens that still might be. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

God puts rainbows in the clouds so that each of us - in the dreariest and most dreaded moments - can see a possibility of hope. ~Maya Angelou

Hope deceives more men than cunning does. ~Vauvenargues, Reflections and Maxims, 1746

Take hope from the heart of man and you make him a beast of prey. ~Ouida

It is the around-the-corner brand of hope that prompts people to action, while the distant hope acts as an opiate. ~Eric Hoffer

To eat bread without hope is still slowly to starve to death. ~Pearl S. Buck

Hope is a walk through a flowering meadow. One does not require that it lead anywhere. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Hope is but the dream of those who wake. ~Matthew Prior

Hope is grief's best music. ~Author Unknown

There is no hope unmingled with fear, and no fear unmingled with hope. ~Baruch Spinoza

He that lives upon hope will die fasting. ~Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack

When you say a situation or a person is hopeless, you're slamming the door in the face of God. ~Charles L. Allen

Though you lose all hope, there is still hope, and it loves to surprise. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Never deprive someone of hope - it may be all they have. ~Author Unknown

Hope never abandons you, you abandon it. ~George Weinberg

Some see a hopeless end, while others see an endless hope. ~Author Unknown

Hope is patience with the lamp lit. ~Tertullian

Hope is like a road in the country; there was never a road, but when many people walk on it, the road comes into existence. ~Lin Yutang

Hope is the poor man's bread. ~Gary Herbert

Hope is the word which God has written on the brow of every man. ~Victor Hugo

Hope is the only bee that makes honey without flowers. ~Robert Ingersoll

[cowboy_from_hell 2,390]

H O P E (take your pick, a choice for all tastes)

Where hope would otherwise become hopelessness, it becomes faith. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Hope, deceitful as it is, serves at least to lead us to the end of our lives by an agreeable route. ~François Duc de La Rochefoucauld

Once you choose hope, anything's possible. ~Christopher Reeve

Hope is the only universal liar who never loses his reputation for veracity. ~Robert G. Ingersoll

Things which you do not hope happen more frequently than things which you do hope. ~Titus Maccius Plautus

Hope is some extraordinary spiritual grace that God gives us to control our fears, not to oust them. ~Vincent McNabb

In reality, hope is the worst of all evils, because it prolongs man's torments. ~Friedrich Nietzsche,Human, All Too Human, 1878

When the world says, "Give up," Hope whispers, "Try it one more time." ~Author Unknown

There is nothing so well known as that we should not expect something for nothing - but we all do and call it Hope. ~Edgar Howe

If you knew that hope and despair were paths to the same destination, which would you choose? ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Hope itself is a species of happiness, and, perhaps, the chief happiness which this world affords; but, like all other pleasures immoderately enjoyed, the excesses of hope must be expiated by pain. ~Samuel Johnson

Hope is that thing with feathers that perches in the soul and sings the tune without the words and never stops... at all. ~Emily Dickinson

Hope begins in the dark, the stubborn hope that if you just show up and try to do the right thing, the dawn will come. ~Anne Lamott

The wings of hope carry us, soaring high above the driving winds of life. ~Ana Jacob

All it takes is one bloom of hope to make a spiritual garden. ~Terri Guillemets

The miserable have no other medicine But only hope. ~William Shakespeare, Measure for Measure

The road that is built in hope is more pleasant to the traveler than the road built in despair, even though they both lead to the same destination. ~Marian Zimmer Bradley

You've gotta have hope. Without hope life is meaningless. Without hope life is meaning less and less. ~Author Unknown

Hope is the feeling we have that the feeling we have is not permanent. ~Mignon McLaughlin, The Neurotic's Notebook, 1960

Lord save us all from... a hope tree that has lost the faculty of putting out blossoms. ~Mark Twain

Hope is faith holding out its hand in the dark. ~George Iles

When hope is hungry, everything feeds it. ~Mignon McLaughlin, The Neurotic's Notebook, 1960

Hope is putting faith to work when doubting would be easier. ~Author Unknown

If one truly has lost hope, one would not be on hand to say so. ~Eric Bentley

It is the first purpose of hope to make hopelessness bearable. ~Robert Brault,www.robertbrault.com

The sudden disappointment of a hope leaves a scar which the ultimate fulfillment of that hope never entirely removes. ~Thomas Hardy

Hope is independent of the apparatus of logic. ~Norman Cousins

Sanity may be madness but the maddest of all is to see life as it is and not as it should be. ~Don Quixote

Hope is necessary in every condition. The miseries of poverty, sickness, of captivity, would, without this comfort, be insupportable. ~Samuel Johnson

It's all one thing - both tend into one scope - To live upon Tobacco and on Hope, The one's but smoke, the other is but wind. ~Sir Robert Aytoun of Kincaldie, "Sonnet on Tobacco"

Hope is the physician of each misery. ~Irish Proverb

God sends the dawn that we might see the might-have-beens that still might be. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

God puts rainbows in the clouds so that each of us - in the dreariest and most dreaded moments - can see a possibility of hope. ~Maya Angelou

Hope deceives more men than cunning does. ~Vauvenargues, Reflections and Maxims, 1746

Take hope from the heart of man and you make him a beast of prey. ~Ouida

It is the around-the-corner brand of hope that prompts people to action, while the distant hope acts as an opiate. ~Eric Hoffer

To eat bread without hope is still slowly to starve to death. ~Pearl S. Buck

Hope is a walk through a flowering meadow. One does not require that it lead anywhere. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Hope is but the dream of those who wake. ~Matthew Prior

Hope is grief's best music. ~Author Unknown

There is no hope unmingled with fear, and no fear unmingled with hope. ~Baruch Spinoza

He that lives upon hope will die fasting. ~Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack

When you say a situation or a person is hopeless, you're slamming the door in the face of God. ~Charles L. Allen

Though you lose all hope, there is still hope, and it loves to surprise. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Never deprive someone of hope - it may be all they have. ~Author Unknown

Hope never abandons you, you abandon it. ~George Weinberg

Some see a hopeless end, while others see an endless hope. ~Author Unknown

Hope is patience with the lamp lit. ~Tertullian

Hope is like a road in the country; there was never a road, but when many people walk on it, the road comes into existence. ~Lin Yutang

Hope is the poor man's bread. ~Gary Herbert

Hope is the word which God has written on the brow of every man. ~Victor Hugo

Hope is the only bee that makes honey without flowers. ~Robert Ingersoll

"Evil will always triumph because good is dumb" - Dark Helmet, Spaceballs.

[Hells Gates 505]

"MFC - Where are we honestly at ?"

Our senior players are arguably the worst in the competition. There's not an A grader in this batch: Green, Sylvia, Moloney, Bartram, Dunn, Bate, Davey, Rivers. They don't lead the way and they don't regularly influence games. How does our top 6 players compare to the better sides in the competition ? You become a top 6 player when you regularly influence games. We have a dearth of top end talent.

Top 20 draft picks from the last 5 years that were going to be the cornerstone of our rise up the ladder that didn't play last night ... Watts, Grimes, Morton, Gysberts, Tapscott, Strauss, Cook, plus you know who. That's a third of the side. Our best player last night was a top 20 pick from another club.

What do you get when you cross arguably the worst group of senior players in the league with a crop of first choice draft picks that are sitting on the sidelines ? Demonland in meltdown.

I like Mark Neeld. His style doesn't suit everyone, but I believe in him and his game-plan. I'm confident that he'll sort the wheat from the chaff. Neeld's game-plan isn't complex, but it does require getting your hands dirty. My very late Great Grand Father apparently often said, "an ounce of action is worth a tonne of theory". But with respect to my Great Grand Father, I say "you can't make chicken salad from chicken sh*t". Sweat will only get you so far. We need talented footballers. Talent plus action = success.

We'll know soon enough who's up for the challenge. I've been a critic, but Nathan Jones is leading the way. Blease and Trengove will be better for the minutes. I still have faith in this coaching panel to develop many of the other young players that didn't suit up last night. And something tells me that James Magner won't die wondering.

The future rests with the club's ability to develop Watts, Trengove, Grimes, Gysberts, Tapscott, Blease, and Strauss. I'm still confident we'll make tangible in-roads in the year ahead.

Good post mate. Make some valid points. However how many of those top 20 draft picks are in our best 22?

How many were drafted with injury concerns or now have injury concerns?

And how many have poor disposal, especially by foot? Thats how they were recruited. Look at the Hawks, they drafted elite kickers of the footy. If our disposal hasnt improved by now then Im a bit worried.

I love what Neeld is doing but theres only so much he can do, Prendagest needs a jail term for this!!

[Arsene Wenger 72]

"MFC - Where are we honestly at ?"

Our senior players are arguably the worst in the competition. There's not an A grader in this batch: Green, Sylvia, Moloney, Bartram, Dunn, Bate, Davey, Rivers. They don't lead the way and they don't regularly influence games. How does our top 6 players compare to the better sides in the competition ? You become a top 6 player when you regularly influence games. We have a dearth of top end talent.

Top 20 draft picks from the last 5 years that were going to be the cornerstone of our rise up the ladder that didn't play last night ... Watts, Grimes, Morton, Gysberts, Tapscott, Strauss, Cook, plus you know who. That's a third of the side. Our best player last night was a top 20 pick from another club.

What do you get when you cross arguably the worst group of senior players in the league with a crop of first choice draft picks that are sitting on the sidelines ? Demonland in meltdown.

I like Mark Neeld. His style doesn't suit everyone, but I believe in him and his game-plan. I'm confident that he'll sort the wheat from the chaff. Neeld's game-plan isn't complex, but it does require getting your hands dirty. My very late Great Grand Father apparently often said, "an ounce of action is worth a tonne of theory". But with respect to my Great Grand Father, I say "you can't make chicken salad from chicken sh*t". Sweat will only get you so far. We need talented footballers. Talent plus action = success.

We'll know soon enough who's up for the challenge. I've been a critic, but Nathan Jones is leading the way. Blease and Trengove will be better for the minutes. I still have faith in this coaching panel to develop many of the other young players that didn't suit up last night. And something tells me that James Magner won't die wondering.

The future rests with the club's ability to develop Watts, Trengove, Grimes, Gysberts, Tapscott, Blease, and Strauss. I'm still confident we'll make tangible in-roads in the year ahead.

Good post.

It's for this reason I think Gysberts will be a top 10 AFL player one day.

[Harrisonrules 273]

For me all this emphasis on hard bodies, defensive game plans and head over the ball. Is far too simplistic. To reduce our game to a few components is futile. It is a dynamic game with hundreds of components. Our midfield has hard bodies, but lacks speed. The defensive game plan is not adequate. Defense is one thing, a defensive game plan is another. We have a defensive game plan which robs us of potent attack. Defence is merely a mind set that prepares for a potent attack. Attack develops momentum way beyond even leg speed for it is a collective magnification of the individuals. The opposite of all out attack without defence similarly comes unstuck. Hard bodies with inadequate skills is both boring and ineffective. Our demonland mantra has become far too narrow. It is a multiplex dynamic activity and we have not respected many of the other components necessary.

[dee-luded 2,959]

classic. The worst part about that is my neighbour is a crows fan. Cannot shut him up.

What, can't stop him,,,,, Crow'ing? sorry' I had to...

[dee-luded 2,959]

As somebody mentioned, Adelaide have no problems with their game plan. I'm sick of people making up the same excuses. And if we were trialling things, then it still doesn't excuse our rubbish and always pathetic disposal and lack of desire for the footy and contest. Winning is an instinct, but not at this club. Winning form is good form and winning gets you more members and profitable sponsors. This team has no ambition or desire no matter which was you try to twist it. Stop frigging making excuses.

Who said Adelaide have changed they're game Plan?

[dee-luded 2,959]

H O P E (take your pick, a choice for all tastes)

Where hope would otherwise become hopelessness, it becomes faith. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Hope, deceitful as it is, serves at least to lead us to the end of our lives by an agreeable route. ~François Duc de La Rochefoucauld

Once you choose hope, anything's possible. ~Christopher Reeve

Hope is the only universal liar who never loses his reputation for veracity. ~Robert G. Ingersoll

Things which you do not hope happen more frequently than things which you do hope. ~Titus Maccius Plautus

Hope is some extraordinary spiritual grace that God gives us to control our fears, not to oust them. ~Vincent McNabb

In reality, hope is the worst of all evils, because it prolongs man's torments. ~Friedrich Nietzsche,Human, All Too Human, 1878

When the world says, "Give up," Hope whispers, "Try it one more time." ~Author Unknown

There is nothing so well known as that we should not expect something for nothing - but we all do and call it Hope. ~Edgar Howe

If you knew that hope and despair were paths to the same destination, which would you choose? ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Hope itself is a species of happiness, and, perhaps, the chief happiness which this world affords; but, like all other pleasures immoderately enjoyed, the excesses of hope must be expiated by pain. ~Samuel Johnson

Hope is that thing with feathers that perches in the soul and sings the tune without the words and never stops... at all. ~Emily Dickinson

Hope begins in the dark, the stubborn hope that if you just show up and try to do the right thing, the dawn will come. ~Anne Lamott

The wings of hope carry us, soaring high above the driving winds of life. ~Ana Jacob

All it takes is one bloom of hope to make a spiritual garden. ~Terri Guillemets

The miserable have no other medicine But only hope. ~William Shakespeare, Measure for Measure

The road that is built in hope is more pleasant to the traveler than the road built in despair, even though they both lead to the same destination. ~Marian Zimmer Bradley

You've gotta have hope. Without hope life is meaningless. Without hope life is meaning less and less. ~Author Unknown

Hope is the feeling we have that the feeling we have is not permanent. ~Mignon McLaughlin, The Neurotic's Notebook, 1960

Lord save us all from... a hope tree that has lost the faculty of putting out blossoms. ~Mark Twain

Hope is faith holding out its hand in the dark. ~George Iles

When hope is hungry, everything feeds it. ~Mignon McLaughlin, The Neurotic's Notebook, 1960

Hope is putting faith to work when doubting would be easier. ~Author Unknown

If one truly has lost hope, one would not be on hand to say so. ~Eric Bentley

It is the first purpose of hope to make hopelessness bearable. ~Robert Brault,www.robertbrault.com

The sudden disappointment of a hope leaves a scar which the ultimate fulfillment of that hope never entirely removes. ~Thomas Hardy

Hope is independent of the apparatus of logic. ~Norman Cousins

Sanity may be madness but the maddest of all is to see life as it is and not as it should be. ~Don Quixote

Hope is necessary in every condition. The miseries of poverty, sickness, of captivity, would, without this comfort, be insupportable. ~Samuel Johnson

It's all one thing - both tend into one scope - To live upon Tobacco and on Hope, The one's but smoke, the other is but wind. ~Sir Robert Aytoun of Kincaldie, "Sonnet on Tobacco"

Hope is the physician of each misery. ~Irish Proverb

God sends the dawn that we might see the might-have-beens that still might be. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

God puts rainbows in the clouds so that each of us - in the dreariest and most dreaded moments - can see a possibility of hope. ~Maya Angelou

Hope deceives more men than cunning does. ~Vauvenargues, Reflections and Maxims, 1746

Take hope from the heart of man and you make him a beast of prey. ~Ouida

It is the around-the-corner brand of hope that prompts people to action, while the distant hope acts as an opiate. ~Eric Hoffer

To eat bread without hope is still slowly to starve to death. ~Pearl S. Buck

Hope is a walk through a flowering meadow. One does not require that it lead anywhere. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Hope is but the dream of those who wake. ~Matthew Prior

Hope is grief's best music. ~Author Unknown

There is no hope unmingled with fear, and no fear unmingled with hope. ~Baruch Spinoza

He that lives upon hope will die fasting. ~Benjamin Franklin, Poor Richard's Almanack

When you say a situation or a person is hopeless, you're slamming the door in the face of God. ~Charles L. Allen

Though you lose all hope, there is still hope, and it loves to surprise. ~Robert Brault, www.robertbrault.com

Never deprive someone of hope - it may be all they have. ~Author Unknown

Hope never abandons you, you abandon it. ~George Weinberg

Some see a hopeless end, while others see an endless hope. ~Author Unknown

Hope is patience with the lamp lit. ~Tertullian

Hope is like a road in the country; there was never a road, but when many people walk on it, the road comes into existence. ~Lin Yutang

Hope is the poor man's bread. ~Gary Herbert

Hope is the word which God has written on the brow of every man. ~Victor Hugo

Hope is the only bee that makes honey without flowers. ~Robert Ingersoll

PESSIMISM v OPTIMISM

Blind Doom & Gloom or Rose Coloured Glasses!

Where do the Roses grow??? IF, you can't See them, Try sniffing.

[dee-luded 2,959]

For me all this emphasis on hard bodies, defensive game plans and head over the ball. Is far too simplistic. To reduce our game to a few components is futile. It is a dynamic game with hundreds of components. Our midfield has hard bodies, but lacks speed. The defensive game plan is not adequate. Defense is one thing, a defensive game plan is another. We have a defensive game plan which robs us of potent attack. Defence is merely a mind set that prepares for a potent attack. Attack develops momentum way beyond even leg speed for it is a collective magnification of the individuals. The opposite of all out attack without defence similarly comes unstuck. Hard bodies with inadequate skills is both boring and ineffective. Our demonland mantra has become far too narrow. It is a multiplex dynamic activity and we have not respected many of the other components necessary.

Hopefully we Will,,, after we set the Basic standards into place.

[Hells Gates 505]

Who said Adelaide have changed they're game Plan?

Its pretty obvious from what Ive seen of their games so far.

[Angelus BTVS 31]

1996 -Melbourne members vote in favour of merging with Hawthorn 4,679 to 4,229. Hawthorn members overwhelmingly vote it down led by Don Scott 5,241 to 2,841. Whats the point of this ? That Melbourne members voted thier own club out of existence. What type of club culture does that set......

The culture can change again but takes EVERYBODY to change it, Board, Administration, Coaches, Players and Supporters.

[Dr. Gonzo 24,448]

Considering our start to the year i think things are gonna get worse around here before they get better. But what is a pass mark for us this year? As far as im concerned because we are on the up anything better than last year is a pass, ill be happy if we miss finals by a game or 2, and over the moon if we make finals.

Have you seen our draw? Anything but finals is a failure.

[dee-luded 2,959]

1996 -Melbourne members vote in favour of merging with Hawthorn 4,679 to 4,229. Hawthorn members overwhelmingly vote it down led by Don Scott 5,241 to 2,841. Whats the point of this ? That Melbourne members voted thier own club out of existence. What type of club culture does that set......

The culture can change again but takes EVERYBODY to change it, Board, Administration, Coaches, Players and Supporters.

A demoralised one that doesn't know where to turn next. Looking for a Good Shepherd. A culture without Self Belief.

[Akum 2,660]

H O P E (take your pick, a choice for all tastes)

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I didn't realise we were in THIS much trouble!

[dee-luded 2,959]

Now, in the light of Day,,, have another Look at these stats, with a view of looking For the Defensive minded Stats as a Priority. = that we went to practice our defence as a priority.

Then check for tackles etc,,, If we get good Kicks & marks as well on top then thats good.

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