Barry Prendergast on SEN @12.15

[simma02 53]

Barry Prendergast is currently being interviewd on SEN

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Barry Prendergast is currently being interviewd on SEN

Say anything?

[mdemonski2 403]

Bugger missed it. Ayone want to give an update?

[Brayshaw Self 847]

Just said that there are a few good prospects blah blah.

Said Neeld has some influence on the recruiting because he knows what he wants for his gameplan.

A few kids moved up the rankings with test results.

A few kids were moved down in his book after yesterday. (Don't know if it was due to interviews or results)

Said a few kids were at the front of their seats before the interview and finished up at the back of their seat feeling uncomfortable.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

Video of Barry at the draft combine on the MFC page

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/

Edited October 6, 2011 by Jordie_tackles

[Weedster 174]

Just said that there are a few good prospects blah blah.

Said Neeld has some influence on the recruiting because he knows what he wants for his gameplan.

A few kids moved up the rankings with test results.

A few kids were moved down in his book after yesterday. (Don't know if it was due to interviews or results)

Said a few kids were at the front of their seats before the interview and finished up at the back of their seat feeling uncomfortable.

What worries me most about this stuff is the apparent significance placed on the "interview process" which seems to cover off things like family, schooling etc as well as football skill, talent, aspirations ..

While character is no doubt important, successful groups are made up of a mixture of characters - leaders, followers, extroverts, introverts, inside players, rough diamonds etc etc - can't help but feel we focus overly on solid citizens and are a little quick to pass over thise who may create a challenge - the most obvious case being Juhn Butcher - just hope this new regime under MN has enough balls to back themselves to create an environment which caters to the best mix we can put together, not just the nicest.

[hardtack 10,547]

What worries me most about this stuff is the apparent significance placed on the "interview process" which seems to cover off things like family, schooling etc as well as football skill, talent, aspirations .

I don't mind it actually... it means they can identify individuals who may need a more personalised approach in order to bring out their best. It also doesn't hurt to have those with over-inflated views of themselves and their abilities, knocked down a few pegs. For some, it may be just the wake-up call they have been in need of.

[Jordie_tackles 354]

What worries me most about this stuff is the apparent significance placed on the "interview process" which seems to cover off things like family, schooling etc as well as football skill, talent, aspirations ..

While character is no doubt important, successful groups are made up of a mixture of characters - leaders, followers, extroverts, introverts, inside players, rough diamonds etc etc - can't help but feel we focus overly on solid citizens and are a little quick to pass over thise who may create a challenge - the most obvious case being Juhn Butcher - just hope this new regime under MN has enough balls to back themselves to create an environment which caters to the best mix we can put together, not just the nicest.

Jack Darling? surely you wouldnt rather Butcher than Trengove?

[H_T 3,047]

What worries me most about this stuff is the apparent significance placed on the "interview process" which seems to cover off things like family, schooling etc as well as football skill, talent, aspirations ..

While character is no doubt important, successful groups are made up of a mixture of characters - leaders, followers, extroverts, introverts, inside players, rough diamonds etc etc - can't help but feel we focus overly on solid citizens and are a little quick to pass over thise who may create a challenge - the most obvious case being Juhn Butcher - just hope this new regime under MN has enough balls to back themselves to create an environment which caters to the best mix we can put together, not just the nicest.

Barry emphasised that the interview process whilst significant, is just part of it. The most important part of the selection process is their football ability.

I think you'll agree with this.

[Weedster 174]

Jack Darling? surely you wouldnt rather Butcher than Trengove?

Correction - yes - Jack Darling - who slipped thru to mid 20's on the basis of reputation.

Barry emphasised that the interview process whilst significant, is just part of it. The most important part of the selection process is their football ability.

I think you'll agree with this.

I will agree to a point - I would suggest we have, historically, been risk averse in our assessment of character.

I just hope they have identified players who can make a difference

[Dee Fan 3,247]

I don't mind it actually... it means they can identify individuals who may need a more personalised approach in order to bring out their best. It also doesn't hurt to have those with over-inflated views of themselves and their abilities, knocked down a few pegs. For some, it may be just the wake-up call they have been in need of.

I'd rather have a kid on the list that had an opinion of himself, over inflated or otherwise, than one who was shy and retiring and lacked confidence.

Knocking the confidence out of a kid can had a detrimental effect on his football career.

[jumbo returns 6,741]

Barry emphasised that the interview process whilst significant, is just part of it. The most important part of the selection process is their football ability.

I think you'll agree with this.

Yes....but. There was a fairly seductive draft pick a couple of years ago who espoused strong family values, one - club player, blah, blah blah.

Methinks there was forked tongue there....

[old55 23,603]

It's up on the SEN site

[old dee 23,792]

I'd rather have a kid on the list that had an opinion of himself, over inflated or otherwise, than one who was shy and retiring and lacked confidence.

Knocking the confidence out of a kid can had a detrimental effect on his football career.

I agree Robbie it is a lot easier to modify an over confident kid than it is to build one up when it is low.

I have said this often before but the MFC could use a couple of brash ready to go next year types.

You Know I do not care if their fathers is a member of "hells Angles" I just want someone who is tough and can play well.

Edited October 6, 2011 by old dee

[hardtack 10,547]

I'd rather have a kid on the list that had an opinion of himself, over inflated or otherwise, than one who was shy and retiring and lacked confidence.

Knocking the confidence out of a kid can had a detrimental effect on his football career.

Well, I guess it can work both ways. Do you want a kid who is convinced he has all it takes and doesn't want to learn? Sometimes, to quote Nick Lowe, you've got to be cruel to be kind. And I have no objection to kids with an opinion of themselves as long as they can walk the walk.

Edited October 6, 2011 by hardtack

[old dee 23,792]

Yes....but. There was a fairly seductive draft pick a couple of years ago who espoused strong family values, one - club player, blah, blah blah.

Methinks there was forked tongue there....

Yes and 31 is going to a bruise free guy who will hang about next time

[DemonDave 1,089]

Would James McDonald have been drafted/rookie'd under todays stringent analysing at draft camps? From all reports he was a shy and retiring country kid.

Football skills have to come before any personality traits when selecting a kid.

For every Steve Johnson there is a Rod Owen, players with freakish abilities that may or not apply themselves and succeed at league level. I gues sometimes

clubs have to take a punt as West Coast did with Darling. If he messes up this off-season and ends up in jail there will be a lot of people who say 'I knew this

would happen', or he could go on to have a trouble free, premiership playing, leading goalkicker award career. Risk vs Reward.

[old dee 23,792]

Would James McDonald have been drafted/rookie'd under todays stringent analysing at draft camps? From all reports he was a shy and retiring country kid.

Football skills have to come before any personality traits when selecting a kid.

For every Steve Johnson there is a Rod Owen, players with freakish abilities that may or not apply themselves and succeed at league level. I gues sometimes

clubs have to take a punt as West Coast did with Darling. If he messes up this off-season and ends up in jail there will be a lot of people who say 'I knew this

would happen', or he could go on to have a trouble free, premiership playing, leading goalkicker award career. Risk vs Reward.

I know it is far from an exact science.

I just want us to pick someone who is not a skinny choir boy for once.

Take a punt occasionly

[DemonDave 1,089]

I just want us to pick someone who is not a skinny choir boy for once.

Take a punt occasionly

Tapscott fits that bill doesnt he? We havent drafted a lot of players in the main draft under 192cm the last couple

of years, so purely through phyical developement stages all of those kids are going to be seen as 'skinny'.

Looking at Heppell theres still nothing of him but he handled himself superbly this year.

[Lutz 76]

What makes you assume they use the interviews to choose the nicest?

It's to determine who is the most DRIVEN

[old dee 23,792]

Tapscott fits that bill doesnt he? We havent drafted a lot of players in the main draft under 192cm the last couple

of years, so purely through phyical developement stages all of those kids are going to be seen as 'skinny'.

Looking at Heppell theres still nothing of him but he handled himself superbly this year.

That is one in the last four years.

Nothing to courageous there

[Slartibartfast 17,309]

Bail, McKenzie and Jetta are as hard as nails. Blease is brave, Tapscott stupidly so. Trengove has never taken a short step and while Howe, Davis and McDonald have not been fully tested I've seen nothing to worry about.

Picking players with character means they'll go when it's their turn and in footy that is gold. BP has done that very well I would have thought.

I think people are confusing issues here.

[Diablo Deemon 220]

Hopefully Barry has worked out how to pick the

wheat from the chaff especially when it comes to

money hungry mercenaries.

[Deestroy All 14,266]

I don't mind it actually... it means they can identify individuals who may need a more personalised approach in order to bring out their best. It also doesn't hurt to have those with over-inflated views of themselves and their abilities, knocked down a few pegs. For some, it may be just the wake-up call they have been in need of.

So we give them the wake up call by rejecting them because they have a mowhawk and threw eggs at a house one day. Awesome, I'm glad we've woken them up for the next team to take advantage of their talent and renewed outlook on life.

[old dee 23,792]

Hopefully Barry has worked out how to pick the

wheat from the chaff especially when it comes to

money hungry mercenaries.

Did you have someone in mind DD?