I doubt roos has the level of sentimentality about father son picks to be forced to use a pick before the value of the player, as he said all players are on the table, so i doubt we would be paying overs for Stretch, we will either get him for something we think fair or we will pass on him and take another that Roos and co rate higher.

Calm down folks. No one is nominating Billy with their first round pick. He is worth a mid to late second rounder at best.

Again, no, they will also bid if they think we will take him with our second rounder if pushed to.

We are a sucker and the even breaks won't start anytime soon...

except Jack Viney...

0% 1st rounder

45% 2nd rounder

55% 3rd rounder

DC,

you appear to be Stretching things out a bit

probably something you learned at hydrotherapy.

My take on this is that the Saints will nominate him with their second round pick assuming Port don't offer up their first (which might be a bit of a stretch (pun intended)). I think we'll be paying our second round pick, which isn't really overs. It would be a real stroke of luck to get away with using our third round pick on him.

Does the Father/Son bidding occur on draft night now? And how does that work, does a rival club need to nominate a potential father/son pick at their pick then the club must respond?

DC,

you appear to be Stretching things out a bit

probably something you learned at hydrotherapy.

i always take the opportunity to flesh things out at hydrotherapy sessions, biffo

Does the Father/Son bidding occur on draft night now? And how does that work, does a rival club need to nominate a potential father/son pick at their pick then the club must respond?

Nope. FS bidding is the first thing that happens in the trade period. Whatever picks are nominated in FS bidding are out of play for trade and FA periods.

Does the Father/Son bidding occur on draft night now? And how does that work, does a rival club need to nominate a potential father/son pick at their pick then the club must respond?

i think its done just like the draft i.e. round by round. in descending ladder position excluding the nominating club (bottom to top) with a pass or bid

as soon as there is a bid, the nominating club can then claim the player by offering their next highest pick, otherwise he goes to that club who bid

all this happens before the trade period and draft

Is this where we talk up this kid up and put heigh expectation on him only to be disappointed and call for his head because his not a brownlow medalist in his second season.?

Edited September 15, 201410 yr by ILLDieADemon

why wait for the second season?

the good thing is the club is virtually saying nothing

demonland however.........

Don't bemoan the fact he is skinny and we should have drafted Ollie Wines instead of him.

Edited September 15, 201410 yr by Gorgoroth

Again, no, they will also bid if they think we will take him with our second rounder if pushed to.

We are a sucker and the even breaks won't start anytime soon...

Emma has an article in this mornings Age saying that Collingwood are no certainty to take Darcy Moore at pick 8.

I presume that those who think other clubs will nominate Billy so as to force us to take him would now be advocating we nominate Darcy so as to force Collingwood to take him.

I also suspect that prospect would be (rightly) rejected. Same goes for Billy. There isn't a club in the AFL that is worried about us getting Billy for a bit of a bargain and who would put themselves at risk by nominating him early.

Billy will go where he is rated by other clubs and "forcing" our hand won't come into it.

Emma has an article in this mornings Age saying that Collingwood are no certainty to take Darcy Moore at pick 8.

I presume that those who think other clubs will nominate Billy so as to force us to take him would now be advocating we nominate Darcy so as to force Collingwood to take him.

I also suspect that prospect would be (rightly) rejected. Same goes for Billy. There isn't a club in the AFL that is worried about us getting Billy for a bit of a bargain and who would put themselves at risk by nominating him early.

Billy will go where he is rated by other clubs and "forcing" our hand won't come into it.

We should get him one round later than he is rated unless StKilda nominate him, then it will be his true value.

Is it a problem that a soon to be AFL player cant kick 40 metres?

Is it a problem that a soon to be AFL player cant kick 40 metres?

It didn't hinder Luke Ball all that much.

Is it a problem that a soon to be AFL player cant kick 40 metres?

Didn't seem to bother Greg Williams. He had over 50 disposals against StKilda one day and they were real disposals not the give and gets today.

53 disps (25 kicks 28 hballs), 5 marks and 6 goals

Not bad for a 176cm player who was too slow for Sydney.

PS: He could handball as far as he could kick.

Emma has an article in this mornings Age saying that Collingwood are no certainty to take Darcy Moore at pick 8.

I presume that those who think other clubs will nominate Billy so as to force us to take him would now be advocating we nominate Darcy so as to force Collingwood to take him.

I also suspect that prospect would be (rightly) rejected. Same goes for Billy. There isn't a club in the AFL that is worried about us getting Billy for a bit of a bargain and who would put themselves at risk by nominating him early.

Billy will go where he is rated by other clubs and "forcing" our hand won't come into it.

There is a fair bit of subterfuge that goes into this stuff.

Collingwood don't want to spend Pick 8 and clubs with the picks just before are the ones they want to create some doubt with.

The competition doesn't end with the last siren on GF day - if a club is known to be taking a player no matter what, then other clubs will make you pay - one way or another...

Collingwood will take Moore, it's like us saying we were no certainty to take Viney at 3 if needed. He will cost them a 1st rounder.

Collingwood will take Moore, it's like us saying we were no certainty to take Viney at 3 if needed. He will cost them a 1st rounder.

Of course they will, they've been tracking him for years.

If there was no F/S where would Moore sit?

Don't bemoan the fact he is skinny and we should have drafted Ollie Wines instead of him.

I can see the April 2015 Demonland mega-sook thread now.

"I can't believe we paid overs for Stretch when [censored] was still available at pick 34."

As I understand it PP's and comp picks don't count when it comes to using the 'next pick' for father/son. Therefore if we trade our 2nd round pick then the next pick we have for Billy is our 3rd round pick. Assuming StK don't use their pick 1 for him or course. So it would be a safe bet that he will come with our 3rd round pick.