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+1.

We all witnessed how he played vs Sydney... :)

I thought he was the 22nd best Melbourne player on the ground that day, that's why he was dropped. He wasn't bad, but didn't do much.

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Maric is a talented player no doubt and I for one am a fan. However if a deal arises I say go for it, with Tambling that is! He'll stay a Demon.

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There's reports that all of Adelaide, Hawthorn & Western Bulldogs are going to use their compensation picks (at end of first round) during this years draft/trade period which would push our 2nd round pick down to 35.

Maybe Maric & Pick 35 to St. Kilda for pick 24?

Maric while he wouldn't get a wlk up start at St. Kilda would be on the cusp there as they don't have a lot of depth. With Gardiner, Blake, King, Milne, Baker & Hayes all over 30 he wouldn't have to wait long to be in their best 22.

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Maybe Maric & Pick 35 to St. Kilda for pick 24?

:/ I'd prefer to give North pick 35 in exchange for Hale over that!!!

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There's reports that all of Adelaide, Hawthorn & Western Bulldogs are going to use their compensation picks (at end of first round) during this years draft/trade period which would push our 2nd round pick down to 35.

Maybe Maric & Pick 35 to St. Kilda for pick 24?

Maric while he wouldn't get a wlk up start at St. Kilda would be on the cusp there as they don't have a lot of depth. With Gardiner, Blake, King, Milne, Baker & Hayes all over 30 he wouldn't have to wait long to be in their best 22.

That would be nice, but I can't see the saints doing that as they need fresh blood in their list for the same reasons you've stated. Replacing Milne Baker & Hayes within 2 years.

But, I'd take a straight trade with the Tiges for Pick 29.

I can see us doing a deal with either of Carlton or Hawthorn, for Matthew Warnock, for Pick 18 or 19.

That would put us in a better position for 3 or 4 years time.

PS: Then we could trade for Hale, as Deezman suggests with Pick 35.

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That would be nice, but I can't see the saints doing that as they need fresh blood in their list for the same reasons you've stated. Replacing Milne Baker & Hayes within 2 years.

But, I'd take a straight trade with the Tiges for Pick 29.

I can see us doing a deal with either of Carlton or Hawthorn, for Matthew Warnock, for Pick 18 or 19.

That would put us in a better position for 3 or 4 years time.

PS: Then we could trade for Hale, as Deezman suggests with Pick 35.

Re Warnock? Why not to the Gold Coast? They have a gaping hole at full-back. Plus they have already displayed a propensity to recruit mature backmen. You would think if the pick was right we might even consider part of his salary. Then use that pick on recruiting a top backman ie Watson Plus the added bonus would be it might force the hand of a few teams in front of us. GC shape the top 10, we get a chance to shape the next 10.

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That would be nice, but I can't see the saints doing that as they need fresh blood in their list for the same reasons you've stated. Replacing Milne Baker & Hayes within 2 years.

But, I'd take a straight trade with the Tiges for Pick 29.

I can see us doing a deal with either of Carlton or Hawthorn, for Matthew Warnock, for Pick 18 or 19.

That would put us in a better position for 3 or 4 years time.

PS: Then we could trade for Hale, as Deezman suggests with Pick 35.

That's the epitome of the bias that is rampant on these boards - Warnock worth 18 or 19, Maric's worth 29 and Hale's worth 35 - youve got to be kidding.

Warnock and Hale are worth about the same and much more than Maric.

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That's the epitome of the bias that is rampant on these boards - Warnock worth 18 or 19, Maric's worth 29 and Hale's worth 35 - youve got to be kidding.

Warnock and Hale are worth about the same and much more than Maric.

Yes & No. Dont forget we can add value by adding in picks that we are not going to use anyway. (baring in mind we are probably only going to use 3 pick) So you are right on their own, but you could be wrong if we choose to "sweeten" the deal at no loss to us.

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Re Warnock? Why not to the Gold Coast? They have a gaping hole at full-back. Plus they have already displayed a propensity to recruit mature backmen. You would think if the pick was right we might even consider part of his salary. Then use that pick on recruiting a top backman ie Watson Plus the added bonus would be it might force the hand of a few teams in front of us. GC shape the top 10, we get a chance to shape the next 10.

Well I don't wish to help them (GC Suns) as their in our window. So I don't wish to help opposition hurt us later. And secondly for me it's too early to ascertain just how they will shape up, their just a team of potential atmo.

I'd prefer Hawthorn as I see them the best option to stop Collingwood, thats gotta be a good thing! P19

Carlton I hate, but they could give us the best pick in what I think is the most likely scenario. P18.. I don't really want to help them!

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That's the epitome of the bias that is rampant on these boards - Warnock worth 18 or 19, Maric's worth 29 and Hale's worth 35 - youve got to be kidding.

Warnock and Hale are worth about the same and much more than Maric.

That maybe, but I haven't watched Hale, I only know what I've read and that he's been struggling in a battling side & is 4th in their talls.

Warnock is a KEY Plank to a couple of teams in their window to the top 3, to take on Collingwood. That really pushes his value. 2 or 3 teams, maybe 4, will compete for experienced defenders in a push for the GF. Thats what I'm basing it on.

I don't think there's the same push for Hale, from the top 5 teams. Thats my reasoning.

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That maybe, but I haven't watched Hale, I only know what I've read and that he's been struggling in a battling side & is 4th in their talls.

Warnock is a KEY Plank to a couple of teams in their window to the top 3, to take on Collingwood. That really pushes his value. 2 or 3 teams, maybe 4, will compete for experienced defenders in a push for the GF. Thats what I'm basing it on.

I don't think there's the same push for Hale, from the top 5 teams. Thats my reasoning.

Yep, Warnock's value is higher now than it has ever been and will ever be.

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That's the epitome of the bias that is rampant on these boards - Warnock worth 18 or 19, Maric's worth 29 and Hale's worth 35 - youve got to be kidding.

Warnock and Hale are worth about the same and much more than Maric.

Spot on old55, I have felt sorry for Maric for a long time as he has not ever been given a "go" IMO

However the powers that be at the MFC do not seem to rate him very highly or he would have been played more,

On the basis that he has played so few games and never put in one blinder at Casey I think you would struggle to get a fourth round pick for him.

I believe the MFC should let him go to wherever he wants ( If he wants to leave )and take whatever is offered.

The only alternative is to keep him and play him for 2- 3 games in a row during 2011 to see if he has any thing!

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Probably the problem in hindsight for Addam is that when drafted there wasnt a humungous amount of competition for spots.....and now there is.

Guest hangon007
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Well I don't wish to help them (GC Suns) as their in our window. So I don't wish to help opposition hurt us later. And secondly for me it's too early to ascertain just how they will shape up, their just a team of potential atmo.

But surely it would be a win-win trade. Look if it was just us and them in the competition I might agree with you. However, its not. IMHO this is a draft where we could easily "bookend" ourself with two top quality KP kids that could set us up for many years to come.

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That's the epitome of the bias that is rampant on these boards - Warnock worth 18 or 19, Maric's worth 29 and Hale's worth 35 - youve got to be kidding.

Warnock and Hale are worth about the same and much more than Maric.

If Maric isn't worth a second rounder then he stays.

Guest hangon007
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I'd prefer Hawthorn as I see them the best option to stop Collingwood, thats gotta be a good thing! P19

Carlton I hate, but they could give us the best pick in what I think is the most likely scenario. P18.. I don't really want to help them!

I wouldn't rule any of them out. I would just be chasing the "best" pick for us because its clear as day they all need the same thing.

Also interesting Why Blues are so keen not to lose Grigg to Richmond, because they know where they would get the "best" deal for them .. and its not Richmond. However, ultimately this is where the player holds the power ... he must agree.

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OP could be right: -

Off twitter : -

"Melbourne has baulked at several offers from Vic clubs for Adam Maric. Could be part of Hale trade" - deepthroat (SpyandSource)


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"Melbourne has baulked at several offers from Vic clubs for Adam Maric. Could be part of Hale trade" off twitter.

Nice one Sandra Sully.

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In 3 years time this will be your biggest gaffe and that's saying something.

You gooses don't read posts-I said-MAYBE......

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"Melbourne has baulked at several offers from Vic clubs for Adam Maric. Could be part of Hale trade" off twitter.

Hoping that's a tactic, keep the offers rolling in and take the best one come Friday. I'd be happy with a second round pick.

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You gooses don't read posts-I said-MAYBE......

Well, if you said 'maybe', no worries.

Another rule of forums wasn't aware of:

The inclusion of maybe in a post relieves said poster of any responsibility to the post in perpetuity.

Note: If the post turns out to be true, the 'maybe' then becomes irrelevant and the post & and relevant poster received credit that is due forthwith.

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