Injury List: Round 4

[alpha33 322]

This from the AFL website:-

MELBOURNE

TBC

RICHMOND

Nil.

[Jaded No More 68,967]

TBC = We're not telling you, so [censored] off

[southparkboy 0]

MELBOURNE*

Daniel Bell (shoulder) - 3 weeks

Max Gawn (knee) - indefinite

Neville Jetta (groin) - 1-2 weeks

Liam Jurrah (shoulder) - 12 weeks

John Meesen (ankle) - indefinite

Cale Morton (knee) - 5 weeks

Jared Rivers (knee) - test

Colin Sylvia (jaw) - test

Luke Tapscott (hip) - indefinite

Austin Wonaeamirri (hamstring) - 2 weeks

Ah i forgot about the star woops....* Please note that Melbourne's list is from last week. It will be updated when available.

Edited April 13, 2010 by melbourneboy

[Whispering_Jack 30,246]

MELBOURNE*

Daniel Bell (shoulder) - 3 weeks

Max Gawn (knee) - indefinite

Neville Jetta (groin) - 1-2 weeks

Liam Jurrah (shoulder) - 12 weeks

John Meesen (ankle) - indefinite

Cale Morton (knee) - 5 weeks

Jared Rivers (knee) - test

Colin Sylvia (jaw) - test

Luke Tapscott (hip) - indefinite

Austin Wonaeamirri (hamstring) - 2 weeks

Ah i forgot about the star woops....* Please note that Melbourne's list is from last week. It will be updated when available.

On a brighter note, Liam Jurrah said at the Women of Melbourne Long Journey function last night that he expects to be back in 8 - 9 weeks so he's a couple of weeks ahead of schedule (compared to last week's injury list). On that basis, if all goes well he could be playing at Casey in mid season, possibly around QB weekend.

[Jastone 2]

Do we know how far away Max Gawn is? A poster on here mentioned he was kicking goals from 50m at the junction recently. If he's doing that his knee can't be that bad!

[Curry & Beer 5,444]

Has Tapscott got OP or what

[Redleg 40,979]

Has Tapscott got OP or what

He had hip surgery.

[Jastone 2]

Btw, saw all the injured players walking around on gameday last week and they all looked pretty good No one limping around at least haha

[pringle 42]

Has Tapscott got OP or what

My guess would be (without confirmation) that Luke Tapscott had surgery for one of two reasons: Either,

a) He suffered an acute injury that required repair - most likely a tear in the labrum of the hip joint (a rim of fibrous cartilage type tissue that deepens the hip socket and provides added stability)...

OR

B) Surgery for FAI (femoro-acetabular impingement), which is a structural abnormality that causes problems in athletes (and active individuals) because of too much friction between the ball and socket of the hip joint (head of the femur and acetabulum for those anatomically versed). I won't bore you with the specifics of the structural abnormalities that are possible, but in essence, such a condition can not only cause pain during activity (especially the intense cross-body activity and rapid directional changes demanded of AFL football), but also, over time, lead to degenerative hip changes and early arthritis. It may very well be that Luke reported some hip (or groin or knee soreness) which was investgated and found to be attributable to this condition. Whilst he may have been able to continue to train and play on with some discomfort for years with this condition, it is a sensible course of action to delay Luke's induction into AFL football for a while so as to correct this abnormality and allow him to play pain-free and unrestricted for the rest of his career. In other words, this may have been a long-term decision by the medical staff to prolong Luke's career and prevent future problems.

I think scenario B) is the more likely considering I never heard of any acute injury suffered by Luke and hip injuries such as the one mentioned above in scenario a) don't occur so commonly during pre-season training drills.

Hope that sheds some light, even though I have no inside info and am only guessing (but based on a pretty sound knowledge of what hip operations could possibly have been on the cards in a young player such as Luke who has not appeared to have suffered any major training or match mishap).

The recovery and rehab from the second operation (for FAI) is approximately around the 3 months plus mark for an AFL player with access to intensive rehab... A small investment in a long future hopefully. And it's not likely to be OP if he really did have a 'hip' operation.

[pringle 42]

Interesting. Seems as though typing B) gives you a smoking demon. It's meant to be scenario 'b' as in the letter, not scenario 'smoking demon' B)

[satyricon 267]

Do we know how far away Max Gawn is? A poster on here mentioned he was kicking goals from 50m at the junction recently. If he's doing that his knee can't be that bad!

I have seen Max Gawn at JO a couple of times, he is starting to run laps and sprints, kicking drills as well, but he is a big unit, so they are probably being very cautious with him, seems to have added bulk to his frame as well, looks like a small mountain on the move, had a chat to him on one of his laps, just getting himself right and following instructions, does not want to go backwards

[Gooner 9]

Watts to come in this week? He's had a couple of matches in the reserves to get some match fitness. Richmond could be a good confidence boosting game for him to come back for.

[Felix 92]

Watts to come in this week? He's had a couple of matches in the reserves to get some match fitness. Richmond could be a good confidence boosting game for him to come back for.

I agree. It could bring in a few more members if he has a good game.

According to the hun today

MELBOURNE

Jared Rivers (knee) test

Colin Sylvia (jaw) test

Neville Jetta (groin) 1 week

Austin Wonaeamirri (hamstring) 1 week

Daniel Bell (shoulder) 2 weeks

Cale Morton (knee) 4 weeks

Liam Jurrah (shoulder) 11 weeks

John Meesen (ankle) indefinite

Max Gawn (knee) indefinite

Luke Tapscott (hip) indefinite

Edited April 13, 2010 by Sturmmann

[jayceebee31 761]

I have seen Max Gawn at JO a couple of times, he is starting to run laps and sprints, kicking drills as well, but he is a big unit, so they are probably being very cautious with him, seems to have added bulk to his frame as well, looks like a small mountain on the move, had a chat to him on one of his laps, just getting himself right and following instructions, does not want to go backwards

Extremely well explained- however he did his knee early June,I think-- therefore must be say 6/8 weeks away from 12 month stay.But as you state he is a big unit- so they may be extra careful with him.

[Dinosaur Rover 197]

My guess would be (without confirmation) that Luke Tapscott had surgery for one of two reasons: Either,

a) He suffered an acute injury that required repair - most likely a tear in the labrum of the hip joint (a rim of fibrous cartilage type tissue that deepens the hip socket and provides added stability)...

OR

B) Surgery for FAI (femoro-acetabular impingement), which is a structural abnormality that causes problems in athletes (and active individuals) because of too much friction between the ball and socket of the hip joint (head of the femur and acetabulum for those anatomically versed). I won't bore you with the specifics of the structural abnormalities that are possible, but in essence, such a condition can not only cause pain during activity (especially the intense cross-body activity and rapid directional changes demanded of AFL football), but also, over time, lead to degenerative hip changes and early arthritis. It may very well be that Luke reported some hip (or groin or knee soreness) which was investgated and found to be attributable to this condition. Whilst he may have been able to continue to train and play on with some discomfort for years with this condition, it is a sensible course of action to delay Luke's induction into AFL football for a while so as to correct this abnormality and allow him to play pain-free and unrestricted for the rest of his career. In other words, this may have been a long-term decision by the medical staff to prolong Luke's career and prevent future problems.

I think scenario B) is the more likely considering I never heard of any acute injury suffered by Luke and hip injuries such as the one mentioned above in scenario a) don't occur so commonly during pre-season training drills.

Hope that sheds some light, even though I have no inside info and am only guessing (but based on a pretty sound knowledge of what hip operations could possibly have been on the cards in a young player such as Luke who has not appeared to have suffered any major training or match mishap).

The recovery and rehab from the second operation (for FAI) is approximately around the 3 months plus mark for an AFL player with access to intensive rehab... A small investment in a long future hopefully. And it's not likely to be OP if he really did have a 'hip' operation.

A is a good guess...

Has had hip arthroscopic surgery to repair a torn labrum and will be ruled out until mid season

...acording to http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/afl.php which provides a bit more infromation from an uknkown source.

Can I suggest we ask for more infromation of the club in this field? A bit of lobbying from an influential group of passionate members never did any harm.

[satyricon 267]

A is a good guess...

Has had hip arthroscopic surgery to repair a torn labrum and will be ruled out until mid season

...acording to http://www.injuryupdate.com.au/afl.php which provides a bit more infromation from an uknkown source.

Can I suggest we ask for more infromation of the club in this field? A bit of lobbying from an influential group of passionate members never did any harm.

We live locally so I can get to JO quite often, again I had a chat with Luke Tapscott as he was as he put it enthusiastically "walking my first lap", much to the horror of my lovely lady who was with me, we asked him what he did and obviously he listens to the doctors he launched into this very descriptive medical diagnosis, I know it involved the cartilage so A. is probably correct but he lost both of us.....I could only reply "well you damaged it properly then" he laughed and said yes, he again is being treated cautiously, but thanked us for our support and said he was looking forward to playing for himself ,the team and the supporters who are really supportive which he appreciated

[titan_uranus 25,020]

MELBOURNE

Neville Jetta (groin) 1 week

Austin Wonaeamirri (hamstring) 1 week

Cale Morton (knee) 4 weeks

Hey cool. That's better for each of them than I previously thought.

[dee-luded 2,959]

This from the AFL website:-

MELBOURNE

TBC

RICHMOND

Nil.

Melbourne Injury List

Colin Sylvia (jaw) - test

Jared Rivers (knee) - test

Austin Wonaeamirri (hamstring) - 1 week

Neville Jetta (groin) - 1- week

Daniel Bell (shoulder) - 2 weeks

Cale Morton (knee) - 4 weeks

Liam Jurrah (shoulder) - 11 weeks

John Meesen (ankle) - indefinite

Max Gawn (knee) - indefinite

Luke Tapscott (hip) - indefinite

http://sportal.com.au/afl-injury-list

[pringle 42]

We live locally so I can get to JO quite often, again I had a chat with Luke Tapscott as he was as he put it enthusiastically "walking my first lap", much to the horror of my lovely lady who was with me, we asked him what he did and obviously he listens to the doctors he launched into this very descriptive medical diagnosis, I know it involved the cartilage so A. is probably correct but he lost both of us.....I could only reply "well you damaged it properly then" he laughed and said yes, he again is being treated cautiously, but thanked us for our support and said he was looking forward to playing for himself ,the team and the supporters who are really supportive which he appreciated

Well there you go then. From the horses mouth. A it is. Rehab period should be around the 4 month plus mark. So my guess would be a return to VFL football around mid-season. All in all not the worst time in your career to sustain such an injury. Satyricon, just wondering if he mentioned how this labral tear occurred? Was it a degenerative tear (which could be due to FAI and therefore he may have actually had both operations I mentioned in one go), or was there a specific accident/incident?

Also, VERY much looking forward to the return of Cale Morton. 4 weeks doesn't seem so long anymore!!!

And as for Jetta, good to see he is close. I think he could add a bit to our team at some stage this year once he is up and running. Considering injuries occur throughout the course of a season, it is fantastic to know that the ones who have missed the start of the season are on the mend and just about ALL of them could potentially end up in our best 22 by the end of the year (except maybe Tapscott and Gawn, who are still young and have not yet completed a full AFL pre-season).

Edited April 14, 2010 by pringle

[satyricon 267]

Well there you go then. From the horses mouth. A it is. Rehab period should be around the 4 month plus mark. So my guess would be a return to VFL football around mid-season. All in all not the worst time in your career to sustain such an injury. Satyricon, just wondering if he mentioned how this labral tear occurred? Was it a degenerative tear (which could be due to FAI and therefore he may have actually had both operations I mentioned in one go), or was there a specific accident/incident?

Also, VERY much looking forward to the return of Cale Morton. 4 weeks doesn't seem so long anymore!!!

And as for Jetta, good to see he is close. I think he could add a bit to our team at some stage this year once he is up and running. Considering injuries occur throughout the course of a season, it is fantastic to know that the ones who have missed the start of the season are on the mend and just about ALL of them could potentially end up in our best 22 by the end of the year (except maybe Tapscott and Gawn, who are still young and have not yet completed a full AFL pre-season).

He didn't say anything specific about how it occurred, as I say it was very detailed and lost us both, but he mentioned cartilage. If you get a chance to go to JO or Casey or the new one at Gotschs Paddock......you can actually watch the rehab group in action, and the lap walkers will usually stop for a chat........I listened to one of the Fitness guys say this to Max Gawn.....probably paraphrased "some days you leg will feel fine, but you won't feel good in the head, other days you will feel ready to go and the leg will feel horrible, it happens, just stick with it, you are doing OK.....Max trotted away to do his rehab work

[Cards13 9,117]

Melbourne Injury List

Colin Sylvia (jaw) - test

Jared Rivers (knee) - test

Austin Wonaeamirri (hamstring) - 1 week

Neville Jetta (groin) - 1- week

Daniel Bell (shoulder) - 2 weeks

Cale Morton (knee) - 4 weeks

Liam Jurrah (shoulder) - 11 weeks

John Meesen (ankle) - indefinite

Max Gawn (knee) - indefinite

Luke Tapscott (hip) - indefinite

http://sportal.com.au/afl-injury-list

Aussie might have to get a new nickname, he is no longer 223

[Felix 92]

Aussie might have to get a new nickname, he is no longer 223

lol, i like that 1.

[s-t-i-n-g-a 439]

Aussie might have to get a new nickname, he is no longer 223

Wonanewhami???

Edited April 14, 2010 by s-t-i-n-g-a

[WonnaJurah 5]

thats good Davey isnt on the list thought he did a hammie this week (seem to be Hamstring Week in the AFL) , any word on Meesons recovery?

[Inner Demon 1]

Wonanewhami???

That's very clever.

Well done.