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  On 13/05/2018 at 06:53, Satyriconhome said:

Keep an eye on Nev the next game,

always watching, one of my favourite things is seeing him win a 2 on 1, or spoil a bloke who is 10kg/cm bigger in a marking contest. In order of who I would pick 1st for the team he is in top 5.

1. Gawn

2. Oliver

3. Jones

4. Tom McDonald

5. Jetta

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      On 13/05/2018 at 06:55, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

     

    I'm actually with @DaisyDeeciple  on this one that Nev (and the dog act it was) isn't getting the respect that he deserves.

    i think we all agree that nev gets a rough deal from the ump.......but not for the reason @DaisyDeeciple hypothesised

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    No way the guy who gut punched Nev doesn't get looked at.

    They showed it on the replay, it is clear as day. He punched him and Nev went down, and we know Nev would never double over in pain unless something really hurt him!

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      On 13/05/2018 at 06:30, Perago Validus said:

    Seems you're the one with the issue. 

    Why is that? 

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      On 13/05/2018 at 06:59, daisycutter said:

    i think we all agree that nev gets a rough deal from the ump.......but not for the reason @DaisyDeeciple hypothesised

    Largely agree, and that was mostly what I was infering, but to be honest, I'm still open and think I could be convinced on the unconscious bias argument as well.

    I don't actually think Australian socioty has much time for social minorities that speak up and speak loudly, openly and honestly on behalf of the disadvantage of their cultural background.  The Adam Goodes saga was evidence of that.  I think being a much shyer, lower profile type, Nev may not speak up when perhaps others might for fear of not wanting to bring these negative race based assertons upon himself. That in it's self may mean he gets walked over more easily in circumstances such as these.  Personally I'm under no illusions how much harder it must be identifing as indigenous in this county.

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      On 13/05/2018 at 06:28, DaisyDeeciple said:

    I was at a loss to explain why Nev had not been receiving a fair go from the umps, and was wondering of it was based on unconscious bias re race.The MRP has now made it clear I was wrong and everything is hunky dory...  Also for all of you having a go for using the term 'black fella' let me paste the words from one of my favourite Aussie  groups the Warumpi Band.

     

    Black fella, white fella
    It doesn't matter, what your color
    As long as you, a true fella
    As long as you, a real fella

    All the people, of different races
    With different lives, in different places
    It doesn't matter, what your name is
    We got to have, lots of changes
    We need more brothers, if we're to make it
    We need more sisters, if we're to save it
    Are you the one that's gonna stand up and be counted
    Are you the one who's gonna be there when we shout it
    Are you the one that's always ready with a helping hand
    Are you the one who understands these family plans
    Black fella, white fella
    Yellow fella, any fella
    It doesn't matter, what your color
    As long as you, a true fella
    All the people, of different races
    With different lives, in different places
    It doesn't…

     

    I remember having to sing this song for music class in primary school. Was pretty catchy. 

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      On 13/05/2018 at 06:59, daisycutter said:

    i think we all agree that nev gets a rough deal from the ump.......but not for the reason @DaisyDeeciple hypothesised

    I must admit the thought crossed my mind when listening to the way the commentators laughed about it when viewing the replay yesterday.

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      On 13/05/2018 at 09:29, Dr. Gonzo said:

    I must admit the thought crossed my mind when listening to the way the commentators laughed about it when viewing the replay yesterday.

    so now you think (briefly) that commentators having a laugh encouraged the ump to be subconsciously racist towards neville

    i guess that would be telepathic-subconscious-racism 

    this thread just gets weirder and wierder

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      On 13/05/2018 at 06:58, DaisyDeeciple said:

    always watching, one of my favourite things is seeing him win a 2 on 1, or spoil a bloke who is 10kg/cm bigger in a marking contest. In order of who I would pick 1st for the team he is in top 5.

    1. Gawn

    2. Oliver

    3. Jones

    4. Tom McDonald

    5. Jetta

    I love Jetta and the above more than anyone but I'm guessing you forgot Viney.

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      On 13/05/2018 at 07:26, Rodney (Balls) Grinter said:

    Largely agree, and that was mostly what I was infering, but to be honest, I'm still open and think I could be convinced on the unconscious bias argument as well.

    I don't actually think Australian socioty has much time for social minorities that speak up and speak loudly, openly and honestly on behalf of the disadvantage of their cultural background.  The Adam Goodes saga was evidence of that.  I think being a much shyer, lower profile type, Nev may not speak up when perhaps others might for fear of not wanting to bring these negative race based assertons upon himself. That in it's self may mean he gets walked over more easily in circumstances such as these.  Personally I'm under no illusions how much harder it must be identifing as indigenous in this county.

    Myself and Mrs Worship went up for this game and had a lovely time however I had a spontaneous moment where I yelled out "he's black not Fn invisible" this was a reaction I think based on a lot of previous observations and I'm not sure if it's coz I'm biased however I think Nev gets a raw deal a lot of the time. It was fabulous to hear the MFC supporters get behind him and I hope he heard the support that was given.

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      On 13/05/2018 at 09:29, Dr. Gonzo said:

    I must admit the thought crossed my mind when listening to the way the commentators laughed about it when viewing the replay yesterday.

     I failed to see the funny side, wondered why they laughed. I wonder how they'd like to be punched in the balls...

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    Why was Day not cited for the late charge into Salem's back?  Honestly, of the two I think that was the more dangerous action. He wasn't even close to being in the marking contest, lined him up, ducked the shoulder and hit him right in the middle of his back.  Especially given the "NicNat rule," a guy of his size and weight, moving at that sort of speed could have caused a severe injury.  We're bloody lucky Salem is a tough bugger who shook it off. 

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      On 13/05/2018 at 10:09, RalphiusMaximus said:

    Why was Day not cited for the late charge into Salem's back?  Honestly, of the two I think that was the more dangerous action. He wasn't even close to being in the marking contest, lined him up, ducked the shoulder and hit him right in the middle of his back.  Especially given the "NicNat rule," a guy of his size and weight, moving at that sort of speed could have caused a severe injury.  We're bloody lucky Salem is a tough bugger who shook it off. 

    you can go back to the game against the lions game at the gabba earlier this year when Jetta was pushed into a pack and pretty close to knocked out. No charge laid

    No matter what bows have been drawn here. Nev seems to get a really rough deal.

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      On 13/05/2018 at 06:59, daisycutter said:

    i think we all agree that nev gets a rough deal from the ump.......but not for the reason @DaisyDeeciple hypothesised

    Maybe it is colour related as we all know for a definite undisputed fact that no white maggot likes the colours RED and BLUE :mellow:

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      On 13/05/2018 at 09:38, Wrecker45 said:

    I love Jetta and the above more than anyone but I'm guessing you forgot Viney.

    No i was very conflicted about which 5 go 1st, i deeply love Viney, he is heart and soul, this was purely on which names go one the board with permanent marker.Same with Hoges, but i think these 5 are the toughest to replace. If Jones wasnt there then Viney, but for me Jones is still the senior of the two...

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    Both the May & Day incidents occurred in front of our group at the Gabba. 

    Nev was certainly out of the action for some minutes and if we were on MOR our penalty might be greater then one week. 

    Whilst @Satyriconhome suggests Nev might laugh this off, on Mother’s Day, can we please remember sometimes family members might be directed to read what’s being said about their boy. We may mean no offence but offence may be taken. 

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