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  1. It’s the final session of the year before the Christmas/New Year Break and I’m at Gosch’s to bring you my observations. Thank you to all of our incredible Demonland Trackwatchers. There are too many of you to name but you know who you are and your contributions are very much appreciated by all and sundry.
    36 points
  2. Unbelievable get for the footy club. Had the privilege of attending a leadership forum up in Brisbane last year where he was a guest speaker and conducted some workshops. He spoke about all things mindfulness, leadership and perspective. Personally I came away from his session really rejuvenated and gained a whole new perspective from a leadership and life perspective. He's worked with some absolute superstars in the sporting industry. He was prominent with Richmond throughout their dynasty years, Ash Barty, Mick Fanning, Dylan Alcott, Louis Dobbelaar and many more. If you get a chance follow him on Insta and LinkedIn. Has some really good content. Darren Shand and Ben Crowe.. what a combo. No excuses now.
    29 points
  3. i also attended this morning, but for only an hour or so in the middle of the session. If I was Werridee, I would be going out of my head trying to fit about 35 players into the 22. The only real player who looked below standard at this point was Verall, who I hope can step up over time. Roy George was training with the squad and fitted in well. His move and snap from the pocket during sims was roundly applauded - but no by Chocko. Kid was called in and a chat ensued about AFL speed and pressure and the need for him to take easier options when they presented. Max and Jake Melksham were walking the boundary, chatting about the world. Looked relaxed. The comments about turnovers were accurate. I’m sure that this is all good at this point, and that the nature of the game is based upon turnovers being generated (the defensive side doing good) and responding when it happens to you. The skills in the no contest drills were pretty good, however. The nature of what we are trying to do this year is interesting - we work to hold width as an outlet if needed, but first call is to look at the corridor. Langford spent some time in the focus vest, suggesting he is going to be important in setup this year. T Campbell and AJ both impressed with their efforts, skills and positioning. I see some really good efforts from Clarrie, Trac, Salo, - all who will really add to what we delivered in 2024 into 2025. The sprinting to the drinks station is about setting standards - it looks really good when they all finish a drill then race to the drinks station. Thats about it, will answer any questions. Don’t know if i can get down there after the break, but thought I would add my eyes to the track watchers a few times to help out and do my bit.
    21 points
  4. GET SMART SEASON INFINITY THE LOST EPISODES EPISODE 1 SEASON INFINITY “KAOS KIDNAP OF CLARRY” Chiefs’ office HOTLINE phone rings Chief, “Hello , yes this is the chief, ( unintelligible audio) WHAT …… KIDNAP CLARRY?? Yes, Sir right away Sir I’ll put my best man onto it right away! Dials Phone “ Hello Max it’s the Chief” Max “ How do I know it you chief”? Chief “Max its me the Chief, surely you recognize my voice?? Max “ I don’t know chief it sounds like you but it could be a Kaos Voiceover telekit” Chief “ A Kaos voiceover telekit?? I’ve never heard of it”! Max. I know you haven’t heard of it because it hasn’t been invented yet! Chief “ Well if it hasn’t been invented yet why are you talking about it”? Max, Coz they offered me a commission on future sales if I mentioned this add”! Chief @#$%^%$#@*& Anyway, max you better come into the office, intelligence has just unearthed a cunning KAOS Plot and we must stop them at all costs! Later in the Chiefs office joined by 99. Chief “OK Max here’s the story”… Max, “wait chief is this ultra-High priority”? Chief, “Yes it is Max.” Max “Well then Chief in that case, INSIST on the Cone of Silence”….. Chief ( Face looking lower than a Shizzenhuisen Carters Top Hat) …”NO MAX” 99 “You remember what happened the last time you used it, you hyperventilated and I had to Administer CPR”… Max. “Yes 99 and it was a very satisfying outcome” Chief “Now listen very carefully, KAOS are going to try to kidnap Clayton Oliver at training, CLONE him and sell his clones off to the highest bidder with a new Identity and new face but same player” Max “ Gee Chief that’s dastardly, can’t let that happen, I’ve heard his training form has been brilliant, I’ve just put a lazy 100 bucks on him winning the Brownlow” Chief “ Ok Max that’s the Mission! Max “ Chief can I take Hymie with me”? Chief “No Max you know what he is like around females, The last time he was around 99 He had steam coming out of his ears and was on workcover… Intelligence reports that if he sets eyes on Ghostwriter, WCW and the girls he might blow a headgasket and never be the same again” Max “ OK Chief one last question….. This series ran from 1965-1970 How the hell can we authenticate this episode 54 years later”? Chief “ I just act Max, I’m not in charge of production, logistics, continuity and stuff. Max “Ok Chief I’m on it” P.F REPORT No shows as already stated, Rehab as already stated Let’s get down to it Skills , Drills and Maneuvers · Clearly , game plan has been tweaked, chip kicks around, find space and use center corridor to launch into a leading or presenting player · It appears that players are being encouraged to be a bit more daring in finding separation and presenting opportunities and has already been reported by other posters turnovers were more pronounced this session compared to others · I think that the wind played a fair bit into the rationale for the above, Centimeter perfect kicks were just missing as the wind was swirly and forced some skill errors, remembering its Goshville not the MCG. Takeaway 1 Clarry, just methodical with instinctive knowing where to go , what to do and preciseness of delivery. He tackled with intent and is coming back to his mesmerizing best. Came off slightly earlier but didn’t appear injured. Takeaway 2 Brown dog Junior… Yeah, he did turn it over a few times but, he runs all day, has real purpose in his intent and creates separation and options and PACE! A lot to like Takeaway 3 Bailey Laurie, now I’ve never been a big fan, but clearly he has been working hard on his game. Today he was busy, incisive generally picked correct options and I thought his disposal was very good. Takeaway 4 Harry Sharp, WILL PLAY ROUND 1, just does the little extra things runs harder, created opportunities and has very good disposal. When he wore the yellow shirt he was very damaging with run and carry very impressed. Takeaway 5 Trac and Vines were again excellent, Viney is a hard as a cut cat, but clearly now lowers his eyes a lot more and picks good targets. Trac just does Tracc like freaky things and looks content and happy, that’s a HUGE takeaway. Takeaway 6 Harvey Langford, as iterated previously just looks like he belongs, Loves the ball in his hands and almost teases interception, got caught once or twice BUT once he adjusts to the tempo he will become a vital cog. Takeaway 7 Kozzy, Roy and Menthamind, ( THE THREE AMIGO’S) Each one showed a bit of magic and clearly are loving life as Dees, Roy mercurially astounded with a phenomenal goal as testimony to his skill Takeaway 8 Tom Campbell and Aiden Johnson… AT LAST SOME DEPTH.. Um hold on.. not just depth, from what I have seen both will play and make a significant impact to our structures and game plans, both impressive again today. Takeaway 9 Jack Billings a maligned by some posters here, Look I thought he was clever , creative, ran all day and just made some astute and decisions and executed well. Takeout 10 Is it too early to bookmark a forward line round 1 of Kossy, JVR and Jeffo?? Frita played high half forward today, but the selection of Jeffo and JVR alongside each other worked well today, Jeffo not as prominent as he has been but gee does he move well and dish of correctly when required! Anyway, that’s it, just saw something very interesting two guys in grey overcoats were making a move towards Clarry when a guy uncannily resembling Maxwell Smart, produced a lightsaber and whisked them of to the cosmos! Best of luck to all posters and especially the Goshville Training reporters . P.F
    20 points
  5. Trac did a sensational bit of work to spoil a ball and then gather the ground ball with a nice contested possession amongst a group of bodies and get away with a burst of speed only for his handball to be intercepted beautifully by Clarry who dished it off with lightning speed to Laurie who was off to the races as he waltzed into 50 and banged home a goal.
    18 points
  6. Lindsay who has previously been in the rehab group is warming up with the main group. Lever has now joined the main group for warmups.
    18 points
  7. I don’t usually go to training but I went today and I was quite impressed. There are players you don’t realise are so big until you see them in person. Daniel Turner was running laps and he is a huge athlete and was racing around the boundary at a fast clip. I can see why he would be difficult to match up on and I think he is fast becoming another great bargain pick by Jason Taylor. I felt the usual suspects - Petracca, Oliver and Viney - were the most dominant in the drills and match sim - but I was impressed by the second layer of midfield talent coming through - at one time you had Windsor, Langdon, Kolt, Kossie, Langford, Rivers, Mcvee all going for it head to head in a midfielders drill and they were all speedy, classy and tough. With Lindsay coming through as well I think we will be alright with midfield depth and that will be an area of strength for us in 2025. Sharp had some good moments and could be a chance to start on a wing in round one. Langford is a really good size and you get the feeling he has the body size to really dominate at AFL level - but yes I think he is still adapting to the pace of midfield work. Kolt and Windsor look really ready to have great 2025s - I like Windsor off the back flank and hopefully he will average a few more possessions per game next year as he is so silky and damaging. Good day at Gosches :)
    17 points
  8. I dropped past briefly on my way back from Fitzroy to Balaclava, to catch the handball drill. As on Monday, I can’t help but be impressed with Langford: he looks so at home at this level and has great touch. Good to see him take the game on so confidently. Sure, he may get caught out a bit in his first few games, but with a bit of experience, he will be very special.
    17 points
  9. I headed in to watch the training this morning and most of the drill descriptions have been covered but here's a couple observations. Maxy and Melksham walking several laps have a chat, stopping occasionally to watch the rest training. LOTS of turnovers in the match sim stuff, they did seem very quick on the adapting from turnovers and either setting up or taking advantage of it though so silver linings. Kozzy looked really good, if there's any sites out there putting odds on for non petracca/Oliver Melbourne bnf winner let me know because he's looking primed for a breakout midfield year. Ended by splitting into defenders doing some drill at the other end while everyone else (including tmac and petty?) were doing goal kicking practice. The defenders group looked quite small as if it wasn't all the defenders so maybe they still want to get a bit of goal kicking practice into potential swing men. Or maybe I'm just reading too much into it. Happy to answer any questions about specific players but these were the main things I noted.
    17 points
  10. 'Mindfulness' played a big role in 2021 and the premiership. iirc players and coaches did their own thing in this space. Without wanting to sound critical maybe we lost our way a little in that regard. It is often said on here 'its all between the ears'. His appointment most likely results from the FD review. I'm rapt we have a 'mindset' coach who will bring some structure to this critical aspect of elite performance.
    17 points
  11. Great energy in that drill and even more so on the sprint in to get a drink. XL’s field kicking is as advertised, he has penetration but also the sense of when to use touch. Sestan is such a lovely kick too, and Jeffo for that matter.
    16 points
  12. Another big thanks for the trackwatchers and training reports today - Demonland, DeeSpencer, Ditcha, Clanicko, buck_nekkid, Kev Martin, Demosaw, Binman and all posters and special comments. Our last training session until January, thanks for your efforts and of course Ghost Writer and Pf, Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year to you all and your families.😁👍💕
    15 points
  13. They moved a few into new roles today during sims. The wings included Koltyn, Tracc and Rivers (not sure it was Rivers playing there), plus the regulars of, Billings, Sparrow, and Langdon. At one stage, Langdon burnt Sparrow off, left alone in the forward 50 where he swept onto a ground ball and set up the play for a goal. Yellow bibs (central ball movers and connection) had Fritsch, Langford, and Sharp, all at separate times. Some sims had no one in the bib. The sims appeared to be about aggressive ball movement, often looking for that hit up near the centre circle. They also played a high forward line and then did some congested forward work. Langford stuffs around with the ball, he usually has enough skill to step and move freely. I am a bit worried that the speed of AFL may catch him out. Still some learnings to happen. Tracc, Oliver and May getting plenty of intercepts. Viney making midfield leads, forming the outlet ball, and helping the connections. In some mids drills, they where tackling was willingness, Vines got hit multiple times. He is ready for battle. Salem impressed, running well and play making. Got a touch to the ball in the defensive 50, followed up with a kick on the wing and another with a delivery into a leading forward (barely a sweat). Great morning to finish off the pre-Christmas sessions. They were in great voice, training with enthusiasm, and getting around each other.
    15 points
  14. There were a number of turnovers at today's session but as I noted the intensity in the drills were very high with a lot of pressure and ferocious tackling. Not necessarily excusing the turnovers because you hate to see it but some credit should be given to that aspect of the game.
    15 points
  15. I have to leave but will compile all the training reports later and add some observations of some individual players. See you in the New Year.
    15 points
  16. I’m not an investigative reporter. That is @Ghostwriter’s job.
    15 points
  17. Roy George kicked a ripper snap for goal from a ground ball get much to the applause of players, coaches and spectators.
    14 points
  18. Dropped in again today and saw most of the match sim. There were two highlight plays - both discussed already on here in brief. Trac, who was everywhere intercepting and creating plays like he was in his midfield breakout year of 2020, intercepted a Clarry handball that spilt into general play and then raced to try and win it, when he finally did amidst about five players he bounded out of defence only for his own give to be intercepted by Oliver who started a brilliant chain that led to Laurie's goal on the run. Trac nicely gave Olly a high five congrats on the play - a nice sign of respect. Both Trac and Olly played far more in the middle corridor than normal - both on each other I suspect - so they had a bit of latitude and really just had to use their smarts to win the footy, which they both did on countless times. They are clearly the cream of our midfield. Sadly Olly got a little sore towards the end and came off - not sure whether it was a significant injury - suspect it was pretty minor as he was standing around the tent area. The other was the goal from boy George, who spun out of a tackle and snapped beautifully from about 40m. It should also be noted that he dropped a chest mark in the same play prior to getting tackled. Kossie and Trac were the two stars out there - just so quick and clever. It looks like Kossie, when he resumes in rd 4, will go straight into our midfield rotation this year. His days as a small forward may be done - at least until our goals dry up. Harry Sharp was quite prominent on his wing, although he did get brought down by a huge tackle from Sparrow at one stage. We do have a plethora of wing options this year and that's even without Caleb Windsor, who will be a match winning line breaker down back. Billings is looking good, Ed is everywhere, Woey when he goes there looks good also and Xavier Lindsay will probably be in contention soon when he stops running reps and joins in after X-mas. Across half forward Fritter and Kolt were also lively and Roo's mobility and clever Tommy Hawkins-style gives makes him a standout. I haven't commented on Harvey, but if I did it would be the same as last time. He is still finding his feet with the extra pace making life tougher than in his junior career - but he has some significant tools that will come into play this season. Let's wait and see how he fares after a X-mas break - I reckon he will comeback feeling more confident in the new environment and will make the pace adjustment. It's incredibly hard on a guy being thrust straight into a mid role - Trac had four seasons as a forward to learn the ropes before graduating to that role.
    12 points
  19. I've also attended some of his workshops via my employer. In my opinion, he makes any organization better. In addition to the success he has had mentoring high performance athletes, he has also worked with industry CEO's. I love the thought of Clarry & Trac having access to Ben all season.
    12 points
  20. Know a little about this bloke LURVE The appiontment. Is ha also available on consult to DEMONLAND? A few could do with guidance🤣
    12 points
  21. It's largely available in an unlocked article on The Age: AFL 2024: Melbourne Demons would not have returned Christian Petracca to field after King’s Birthday Clash "Richardson said there were lessons for the competition when asked about the club’s response to the incident at the Demons’ annual general meeting on Tuesday night. “The athlete has a fair bit of say in what happens there. I reckon that will be something that probably will get looked at, not just from our footy club but in the AFL going forward … they are just competitive beasts who want to get out and play and that carries a lot of weight. How much weight should that carry?” Richardson said. “My understanding is that incident will continue to get investigated … we will want to get better as an industry, not just from our football club... “It was a really difficult situation for our medical team. It has basically never happened before. He then went to the next hospital and they didn’t diagnose it properly. So that gives you an understanding of how difficult it was... “The doctors, with the evidence they had at the time, did the right thing. In hindsight, would we do something different if we knew the extent of the injury? Of course, he would not have gone back out on the ground,” Richardson said. “We will always put player safety first from a coaching perspective … we just get out of the way. That’s the doctor’s call.” And then Goodwin: Coach Simon Goodwin said he had been “blown away” by how Petracca had returned to the club. “He is really connected with his teammates and is driving really high-quality training sessions,” he said.
    11 points
  22. He has probably done enough to get a games in 2025.
    11 points
  23. I think we just need to accept that we are far from a highly skilled sides It is clearly one of the things that has long held us back
    11 points
  24. Given the amount of sprinting and cardio work prior to the drills, I imagine fatigue played a large part in the turnovers and is a deliberate strategy by the coaching department to teach the players how to make smart decisions and execute properly when fatigued and under pressure.
    11 points
  25. There were 2 elements to the repeated turnovers that annoyed me. 1. Players not playing to the game plan they’ve been practicing. There was a lot of freewheeling rather than stick to the short kicks that they’ve been training. When they did manage to find a couple of short kicks it often opened up for the switch and there were a number of examples of a half back getting a handball receive, out to a wing, up to Chandler or another half forward and inside 50. 2. Bearing in mind I know they review trainings and I don’t know how in depth their reviews are, a lot of the stuff you see in drills translates to errors in match sim. Just one example but Kynan Brown in the point to point drill received the ball running to the right boundary and then took the time to not just straighten up but aggressively cut back on his left before hitting the target. First play of the game match sim - he gets the ball going right, takes a big cut back on to his left back in to traffic and is pressured in to a turnover.
    10 points
  26. Popped down for a look with my dad. Ground surface in amazing condition given recent heat. Trac looks ripped and happy. Claz very good and pushing himself very hard. Pickett looks at home in midfield winning ball, very evasive, has jets. We need him up forward too, maybe Mentha can step up in a season or two?
    10 points
  27. The HUN seem to be reporting that renowned mindfulness mentor Ben Crowe has joined Melbourne as a mindfulness coach. Has previously worked with Ash Barty, Dylan Alcott and Steph Gilmore.
    9 points
  28. Langford likes having the ball in hand, I just see him getting caught in the faster AFL games, if he is not switched on. Most of the time he breaks lines and moves to space, Have seen him get caught a few times, not from confusion, more because he is a confident player, who can get straight line tackled. I have also seen him get rid of the ball super quickly, hands close to Clarry's abilities. He is a one touch player, very clean.
    9 points
  29. Yes, more risks lead to turnovers. More pressure the same.
    9 points
  30. I attended some of the training session this morning. Very impressed with the fitness of most players. There were quite a few turnovers in match sim. It is only December, but still a lot of work to do. I will report again in the new year.
    9 points
  31. 9 points
  32. 9 points
  33. That was kind of the point I was making with Langford. Still a bit to learn, especially the pace of the game. Windsor was the same (after playing against lesser opponents, some adaptation needed) early in his intro to MFC, he learnt very quickly. My guess is Langford will be on the same trajectory.
    8 points
  34. 8 points
  35. On turnovers, remember that everyone knows the game plan at training. Whilst it would be great to have clean crisp ball movement, can be hard when everyone knows where it is meant to go.
    8 points
  36. No one likes seeing a turnover but the positive of that is the emphasis on defence from the oppo in those situations. Ferocity/pressure and giving it all to cause/create turnovers is what will make our game style quicker (which is what most of us want)
    8 points
  37. Half the boys doing a drill utilizing the stationary metal men (don’t know what they’re called) where they receive the ball and have to weave through two of them and then have one of the assistant coaches apply closing pressure while they snap for goal. They then keep running towards goal where they receive a ground ball and have to baulk another stationary metal man and snap for goal again.
    8 points
  38. Thanks for clarifying and good to know. It's funny, Pendlebury is not quick at all but seems to have heaps of time, same as the Bont. Hopefully he will be similar to those two, in any case I'm sure he will get up to speed.
    7 points
  39. Forwards and backs in to a drill where 3 pairs run between a 1v1 at the goal square and 1v1 50 out crumbing, pressuring, scrapping. May keeps ruining the 1v1 50 out by winning ever contest, but there’s good scrapping otherwise. A big group of Mids - including, Pickett, Sharp, Windsor, Langford, Chandler with some contested handball work. Good pressure. Tommy Campbell and Verrall in that too. Big TC moves like the bloke from happy Gilmore but full credit to him he has a crack, Lindsay and Lever did rehab stuff.
    7 points
  40. Melk and Fullarton are doing short rehab drill movements. Soargo and Taj on long runs. Disco doing straight line sprints at a good clip, doesn’t look too restricted
    7 points
  41. TRAINING: Petracca, Oliver, Melksham, Woewodin, Langdon, Rivers, Billings, Sestan, Viney, Fullarton, Adams, Langford, Lever, Petty, Spargo, Fritsch, Bowey, Laurie, Kozzy, Mentha, George, May, Gawn, Turner Tholstrup, Kentfield, JVR, TMac, Salem, McVee, Lindsay, Hore, Verrall, Campbell, Windsor, Sharp, Howes, Brown, Jefferson, Chandler, Johnson, AMW.
    7 points
  42. when i read the text in that image i thought it said "a massive git" is it time to go to specsavers?
    6 points
  43. It's not that long ago that footballers used to have too much say about returning to the ground after being concussed. Taking the decision away from players after receiving abdominal injuries seems like the next logical step to protect players from themselves.
    6 points
  44. The good news: we are full ground spreading and pulling the trigger. The bad news: right now there’s no rhyme or reason to the ball movement and the skill and decision making errors are ugly
    6 points
  45. Very physical contact drill for the midfielders which simulates a ball up in play with all players in close. players involved. Rucks Campbell and Verrall. Midfielders - Viney Trac Oliver Langdon Laurie Billings Windsor Chandler Sparrow Rivers Kozzy Sharp Tholstrup Langford McVee
    6 points
  46. Lever and Lindsay have rejoined the main group for the ball movement drill. Obviously they're not up to the sprints yet but lighter running/kicking is fine.
    6 points
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