FOX Before the Bounce

[Guest unstable punt]

BT, Mike Sheahan and Jason Dunstall on Foxtel said Chris Judd to the Demons and part of the deal is James Frawley to Saints for Pick 9.

Didn't hear the start of it - did anyone else?

[Jaded No More 68,973]

I'm happy with the Judd to Melbourne bit, but Frawley is one player I really don't want to lose.

I hope Bailey has another young defender up his sleeve that he's looking to poach or draft, because Frawley will be a gem.

This from a BigFooty West Coast supporter -

http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/showthread.php?t=378834

That would be the greatest deal on the planet, but it seems unlikely.

Everything else sounds pretty common sense.

[pantaloons 2,019]

I just saw it, folks. It was much as reported by Hutchy. Basically, that Frawley will go to the Saints for their first pick, and that Judd to Melbourne is virtually a done deal. I am highly excited. Naturally, there were the thoughtless, numb-nutted comments from those peasants about Melbourne's facilities: "Boo, hoo. Melbourne doesn't have good facilities - why would he go there?" Do some research you brainless maggots. We'll have those facilities this time next year.

[grazman 7,451]

I'm happy with the Judd to Melbourne bit, but Frawley is one player I really don't want to lose.

I hope Bailey has another young defender up his sleeve that he's looking to poach or draft, because Frawley will be a gem.

Our first pick this year, our first pick from last year and our second round pick... I think that's very fair.... if that's the deal I'm stoked. I reckon there'll still be a number of players that will be traded to get us back into the draft and or for some up and coming players.

I reckon Frawley will be a very good player... but if we can pick up a Rance/Collier/Henderson/McEvoy by getting back into the first round... all we've really done is miss out on 12 months development... and we've got Judd.... OH HAPPY DAYS.

[drdrake 3,187]

It will take more than Frawley to get pick 9, don't be supprised if our second pick will go to St Kilda as well.

[Yze_Magic 3]

Im not getting over excited cos its not certain yet, and I dont wanna become suicidal

However, if we gain Judd without losing Davey, Sylvia, Travis, Bruce, Brock, Bate, Dunn, Jones, Rivers, Bell, Newton and Green then lock in the Demons for the 2008 flag

[Dalrot 85]

It will take more than Frawley to get pick 9, don't be supprised if our second pick will go to St Kilda as well.

Why? Frawley was pick 12 in a draft rated stronger than this years, with 12 months of development at AFL level under his belt.

If St.Kilda were looking to take a key defender with pick 9, this deal would be ideal for them.

[Jerry Lundergard 420]

It will take more than Frawley to get pick 9, don't be supprised if our second pick will go to St Kilda as well.

Can't see why that would be, he was 12th pick in the "super draft" last year.

[Straight Sets Simon 23,113]

I'm not devastated about potentially losing Frawley.

[Diablo 1]

It will take more than Frawley to get pick 9, don't be supprised if our second pick will go to St Kilda as well.

Well our 2nd pick is part of the Judd deal. Possibly a downgrade of our 3rd to a 4th round pick if anything. Don't underestimate the sentimental pulling power of Frawley to Saints; particularly for a club that is having trouble at the moment, and also is very big on it's club heroes.

[pantaloons 2,019]

Why? Frawley was pick 12 in a draft rated stronger than this years, with 12 months of development at AFL level under his belt.

If St.Kilda were looking to take a key defender with pick 9, this deal would be ideal for them.

I was about to post exactly that. You saved me the trouble!

[drdrake 3,187]

I hope it is that easy Frawley for pick 9, but I can't see it although you would think St Kilda would rather see Judd go to us than the other three teams in the hunt.

[ucanchoose 1,816]

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!

Is anybody else's head about to explode?????!!!????!?!???

[pantaloons 2,019]

I hope it is that easy Frawley for pick 9, but I can't see it although you would think St Kilda would rather see Judd go to us than the other three teams in the hunt.

It's not like St. Kilda is doing us a favour here. They're getting a gun backman for the next 12 years. Much better than a speculative 9th pick. Obviously great for us if it lands us Judd though!

[Guest unstable punt]

OH MY GOD!!!!!!!

Is anybody else's head about to explode?????!!!????!?!???

yes, if it happens its the best thing thats happened to this club in 43 years

[Diablo 1]

yes, if it happens its the best thing thats happened to this club in 43 years

Absolutely. I don't know how I'm going to cope with being relevant again

[Deers 202]

Geez - Demonology took their time to melt down ... I was waiting and waiting and now it's ****ed

Will Before The Game spill anything?

[beelzebub 23,383]

yes, if it happens its the best thing thats happened to this club in 43 years

It might turn out getting Bailey was the best thing.. as he might have got Judd

[Diablo 1]

Geez - Demonology took their time to melt down ... I was waiting and waiting and now it's ****ed

Will Before The Game spill anything?

How funny is it? You know when something big is going down, because inevitably so is Demonology

[lucifer 119]

Don't get me wrong, I so keen to get Judd i'd probably put my grannie up for sale...BUT...do you reckon we should be trading a kid who is potentially a 12 year player and the cornerstone of our defence for years to come?? There's got be some other way to get Judd to the dees

[Guest Schtacker]

I can't believe people would be upset to lose Frawley over this - I was prepared to lose anyone and I thought we would have to lose one or more of:

McLean

Jones

Bate

Bell

Dunn

Newton

Rivers

Bruce

Green

Sylvia

Johnstone

Davey

Robertson

In all honesty I rate Frawley's value below ALL of them and agree with Yze_Magic in that I would be giggling my ass off if we snared Chris Judd and kept all of the above

[Redleg 41,427]

I can't believe people would be upset to lose Frawley over this - I was prepared to lose anyone and I thought we would have to lose one or more of:

McLean

Jones

Bate

Bell

Dunn

Newton

Rivers

Bruce

Green

Sylvia

Johnstone

Davey

Robertson

In all honesty I rate Frawley's value below ALL of them and agree with Yze_Magic in that I would be giggling my ass off if we snared Chris Judd and kept all of the above

Fair chance to lose the last one.

[Guest Schtacker]

Fair chance to lose the last one.

well maybe, but not as part of this reputed deal - if a seperate deal emerged to trade Robbo for a high pick I would be even more happy as we will still get ourselves a quality youngster this year

It's all coming up Demon

[QueenC 74]

It's all coming up Demon

No, we just hope it's all coming up Demon........

Although that would make a very nice change !!!

[Freak 100]

a quick question:

Frawley will be a great backman for the next 10-12 seasons

Judd will be an elite midfielder for the next 6 or so seasons.

Is there any point?

are we even going to be in the premiership window when we have judd?