Feedback from Coach Selection

[youami 54]

From a very good source (i know sounds very very dodge, but check my history ive never made claims before).

apparently all members in the selection panel nominated two people, every person nominated bailey, and were very impressed with the way he presented himself, being very clear and direct.

Bailey - does not believe in trade week (despite port having 9 recycled players in their premiership team), but has sounded out that Travis Johnstone is on the chopping block.

not media savvy (happy with that) and will find it difficult to sell the club in the same manner as daniher (ultimately results sell the club)

sheedy - was pick number 2 of the five, however the panel had concerns about his age and no new ideas

hardwick - very keen on hardwick, however fumbled his way through the interview at times, they think he will be a very good coach in a few years, but weren't willing to take a risk on him

connolly - not enough insight - no new ideas unlike bailey and hardwick

riley - just part of the process.

bond - no good on the psych testing

in other news apparently bailey and libba were the only two who applied for the job, the others were approached by the melbourne football club.

also longmire applied for the job after the first part of the process was complete, but could not be considered as he missed the first part.

what i take from this, im very happy we have appointed someone who is not about selling the club, someone who was appointed because the club feels he can win us games.

PS - i have written this not to be ridiculed about my source, if you are coming on here to bad mouth this just because of the source im not interested. just ignore this if you have a problem with my source.

[Yze_Magic 3]

He better bloody believe in trade week

[Demons 32 235]

If the source is correct.

Im very upset that he isn't trade friendly. I would hate to loose Johnno.

Id rather every player on the list go before him.

[Jarka 767]

Thanks for sharing that with us.

Revealing a source on a forum is a very bad thing to do, I wouldn't expect anyone to give up a source and I'd be dissapointed if anyone did.

[youami 54]

If the source is correct.

Im very upset that he isn't trade friendly. I would hate to loose Johnno.

Id rather every player on the list go before him.

i agree im a johno fan too, has got an x factor. but it is time for some tough decisions.

[AzzKikA 2,371]

Good get rid of Johnno, he may run a lot but i find him a very frustrating player to watch in the other areas of his game, plus he is still worht a fair bit in a trade.

It has been confiremed that Bailey has been appointed coach

http://melbournefc.com.au/Season2007/News/...px?newsId=50198

[Deano74 156]

i agree im a johno fan too, has got an x factor. but it is time for some tough decisions.

The best thing about a new coach is that there is no favourites. I imagine that reputations mean nothing except for Neitz, so everyone will have to prove their worth.

[Nasher 33,613]

I find it difficult to believe that he already has names on the chopping block when he hasn't set foot inside the club yet. Seems a little "take action now, consider the facts later", so I hope this isn't the case.

That said, I don't object to the principle of trading Travis so long as the compensation is adequate.

[Bring-Back-Powell 14,817]

That said, I don't object to the principle of trading Travis so long as the compensation is adequate.

That compensation better be bloody adequate. Not too many bloke with the skills of TJ.

Top 10 draft pick

or

2nd round pick plus established (out of favour player like Chris Hyde or Henry Playfair) or 3rd year player with future.

[QueenC 74]

He better bloody believe in trade week

You're just determined to find fault before anything has actually happened......

As for Bailey's apparent trade week stance, just because we seem to want to see every Tom, Dick and Harry on our list gone doesn't mean it will happen immediately. And in reality we have absolutely no idea what will happen once our new coach starts to get his feet wet and actually meets with all the players.

But what we see won't necessarily be what he sees, and that isn't necessarily a bad thing. A clean slate is what we all wanted and that is what we got.

That being said there are some obvious choices that must be made, and I want to have faith that he will do what he can to better the list.

And has been said multiple times around here for quite a long time now you only get what you give during trade week, which could be one of the reasons as to why TJ is allegedly the nominated trade bait player. He obviously could bring in something great, something that Bailey may think we desperately need.

[Jaded No More 68,906]

I find it difficult to believe that he already has names on the chopping block when he hasn't set foot inside the club yet. Seems a little "take action now, consider the facts later", so I hope this isn't the case.

That said, I don't object to the principle of trading Travis so long as the compensation is adequate.

That would have been part of the presentation... a list analysis and a plan going forward.

If he does indeed have TJ on the chopping block, it only reaffirms what I've heard about him being a tough, ruthless man. EXCELLENT!

Nobody should be safe and everyone should be working their bum off to prove to him that they deserve to play in a red and blue jumper.

I don't necessarily want TJ to go, but I want things to change.

As far as trade week is concerned, at least we know he won't pick up duds like Moorcroft, Heffernan and so on and so forth. Thank god!

[Deano74 156]

I find it difficult to believe that he already has names on the chopping block when he hasn't set foot inside the club yet. Seems a little "take action now, consider the facts later", so I hope this isn't the case.

That said, I don't object to the principle of trading Travis so long as the compensation is adequate.

Im sure he has opinions on players of all clubs, not just Melbourne. Like most of the members on Demonland you dont need to be on the inside to have an opinion on players. He is probably fully aware of our weeknesses having played against us.

[dee-luded 2,959]

I find it difficult to believe that he already has names on the chopping block when he hasn't set foot inside the club yet. Seems a little "take action now, consider the facts later", so I hope this isn't the case.

That said, I don't object to the principle of trading Travis so long as the compensation is adequate.

he's been in coaching for years, he knows what players do & don't do.

[Jarka 767]

That compensation better be bloody adequate. Not too many bloke with the skills of TJ.

Top 10 draft pick

or

2nd round pick plus established (out of favour player like Chris Hyde or Henry Playfair) or 3rd year player with future.

Your second option would make me cry in my wheeties....alot

[youami 54]

he's been in coaching for years, he knows what players do & don't do.

the reason he knows which players are tradeable is due to the process he has gone through to get the job. apparently they had to do a list appraisal and match simulation.

[Hannabal 4]

I'd rather trade Bruce than TJ.

That said, I'd virtually embrace trading anyone if it improves our list. It's not like we're talking about trading premiership players now, are we.

But as has been alluded to, if correct, Bailey's right. Ninety per cent of any lists improvement will come through the drafts, not trade week.

[Jaded No More 68,906]

I'd rather trade Bruce than TJ.

Me too, but given he signed a 3 year deal earlier this year (whos brilliant idea was that?), I don't think we can.

[Wadda We Sing 10,685]

Good post youami it made for interesting reading and good to get some sort of insite into how a result was achieved...this sort of stuff adds greatly to these forums...

[maximum bob 462]

Back to Trapper.

Wind of these trade rumours is exactly the kick in the arse he needs. Whether he takes notice is up to him.

I'm over Melbourne players with 'silky skills' who look world-beaters for 8 games out of 22.

If Bailey brings some Port attitude to the Dees, more power to him.

As far as I'm concerned, it's all up for grabs from here on. Ground Zero.

[Rogue 585]

TJ's no spring chicken, so we could do worse. Ultimately it depends on what we get for him - Bailey's obviously no goose, so TJ will only be traded if we get something decent. I'm okay with that.

[Whispering_Jack 30,036]

The bit about not believing in trade week doesn't carry much credibility with me unless your informant got the context wrong.

There's an article by Jon Anderson in today's Herald Sun in which he rates how players who changed clubs have gone so far this year at their new clubs. Out of 15 players, only two - Graham Polak and Dean Solomon scored more than 50% (and neither are at clubs that will play in the finals). Kent Kingsley scored 1 out of 10 and Michael Gardiner a perfect zero. Not one of the players on the list is with a top 4 team this year and only three - Everitt, Medhurst and Bryan (PSD) have a chance of playing in the finals. If the context therefore is that trades alone aren't enough to make your team a power then he's right. I would also contend that high draft picks alone aren't enough either.

I don't think however, that the MFC or Bailey for that matter, would pass over the trade period entirely if the opportunity to improve the team arose.

[grazman 7,432]

The bit about not believing in trade week doesn't carry much credibility with me unless your informant got the context wrong.

There's an article by Jon Anderson in today's Herald Sun in which he rates how players who changed clubs have gone so far this year at their new clubs. Out of 15 players, only two - Graham Polak and Dean Solomon scored more than 50% (and neither are at clubs that will play in the finals). Kent Kingsley scored 1 out of 10 and Michael Gardiner a perfect zero. Not one of the players on the list is with a top 4 team this year and only three - Everitt, Medhurst and Bryan (PSD) have a chance of playing in the finals. If the context therefore is that trades alone aren't enough to make your team a power then he's right. I would also contend that high draft picks alone aren't enough either.

I don't think however, that the MFC or Bailey for that matter, would pass over the trade period entirely if the opportunity to improve the team arose.

I think that's right Jack, at least I'd like to think my interpretation of that is right...

I don't think it's the case of Bailey doesn't believe in trade week, rather he doesn't believe in coughing up high draft picks for other club's problems. David Roden's a good example - no one wanted him as a trade, but Port took the very low risk option and it's paid off for them. Last year there was very little on offer and hence we didn't get involved... many on here criticised the club for that, but I think the decision has been well and truly vindicated.

The good news is other clubs (Sydney, Bulldogs, Collingwood) don't think like that and I think the club has the opportunity to improve its draft position and cauterise the softness in the list by trading a couple of players.

[Yze_Magic 3]

Every player should be put on the trade block

Except Neitz

[north westerly 40]

Back to Trapper.

Wind of these trade rumours is exactly the kick in the arse he needs. Whether he takes notice is up to him.

I'm over Melbourne players with 'silky skills' who look world-beaters for 8 games out of 22.

If Bailey brings some Port attitude to the Dees, more power to him.

As far as I'm concerned, it's all up for grabs from here on. Ground Zero.

TJ has missed plenty of games this year and carried injuries in most games that he did play. You may may want to take this into account before stating that he needs a kick up the backside. He is a very rare species of player that can win a game for us single handedly. There is no way we improve our list with moving Trav on.

[Bruce Almighty 0]

From a very good source (i know sounds very very dodge, but check my history ive never made claims before).

apparently all members in the selection panel nominated two people, every person nominated bailey, and were very impressed with the way he presented himself, being very clear and direct.

Bailey - does not believe in trade week (despite port having 9 recycled players in their premiership team), but has sounded out that Travis Johnstone is on the chopping block.

not media savvy (happy with that) and will find it difficult to sell the club in the same manner as daniher (ultimately results sell the club)

sheedy - was pick number 2 of the five, however the panel had concerns about his age and no new ideas

hardwick - very keen on hardwick, however fumbled his way through the interview at times, they think he will be a very good coach in a few years, but weren't willing to take a risk on him

connolly - not enough insight - no new ideas unlike bailey and hardwick

riley - just part of the process.

bond - no good on the psych testing

in other news apparently bailey and libba were the only two who applied for the job, the others were approached by the melbourne football club.

also longmire applied for the job after the first part of the process was complete, but could not be considered as he missed the first part.

what i take from this, im very happy we have appointed someone who is not about selling the club, someone who was appointed because the club feels he can win us games.

PS - i have written this not to be ridiculed about my source, if you are coming on here to bad mouth this just because of the source im not interested. just ignore this if you have a problem with my source.

If Johnstone is on the trade table (which is highly unlikly considering he is our best player) then he just upped his currency by having 24 possesions in the first half.